Doug King (10 Viewers)

[Chris1987]

Doug may have his faults but he backed FL in January and it had proved to be a very good decision. Renders the initial post in this thread and subsequent posts from the same individual utter drivel.
Doug was arguably correct regarding the top 6 deck ( the Grimes addition maybe making the difference) Credit to FL for vindicating the faith Doug had in him.
There's always areas for potential improvement but as fans we have to be very content with where we are currently.

 

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[clint van damme]

King deserves a lot of credit imo. Made a huge decision (probably his biggest in charge of us), took a lot of shit on it, went with his gut when others at the club didn’t want Lampard and backed him in January to get us what he believed we could achieve.

Personally think the bloke is a bit like marmite in that you either love or hate him but hope he’s got some credit in the bank next time he makes a big decision

I don't love him or hate him.
And I'll never love a club owner no matter who they are.
I judge him by each action and I think he's done more right than wrong but he has done things I vehemently disagree with.
But his biggest decision, getting rid of Robins, has been vindicated.

Though I still agree with what BillShankly said:

“At a football club, there’s a holy trinity – the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don’t come into it. They are only there to sign the checks.”​

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Said at the time home form did for Robins. Football is also a business and people were starting to get miserable with what was being served up, crowds would have fallen. Crowd is once again engaged and I would think attendances will trend upwards again next season.

Losing 4 in 6 at home against sides who all went on to finish mid table or lower was pretty alarming. Since then he’s turned the stadium into something of a fortress by drilling the team into a way of playing that works well at home, less so away.

 

[Evo1883]

I made a point once and w agreed at the time that robins was too cautious at times and it cost us points , I also made the same point the other week as to why lampard doesnt draw as many games as robins did .

Example



1st half home table last season


2nd half


The trend carried on away


Long story short , robins could be too cautious

 

[Senior Vick from Alicante]

King made a decision based on what he was seeing behind the scenes. The coaching team has changed and so have results proving that decision right, it's his responsibility to get it right on and off the pitch. We have a team with players that go away on international duty and see better training techniques and possibly didn't experience this when back at Ryton. Robins will forever be respected but King makes business decisions and this one was right. Onwards and upwards with Frank and let's hope it lasts.

 

[Snaily]

The Lampard v Robins lens doesn’t really make sense.

You can recognise Lampard is a good coach, while still thinking it was wrong to replace Robins.

Similarly, you can still think Lampard is a good coach, while recognising that our luck this season until Jan (under both Robins and Lampard) was poor, but has turned around since. XG stat would be an indicator (but not proof) of this.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I made a point once and w agreed at the time that robins was too cautious at times and it cost us points , I also made the same point the other week as to why lampard doesnt draw as many games as robins did .

Example



1st half home table last season
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2nd half
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The trend carried on away


Long story short , robins could be too cautious

Yes I remember that, possibly some comparisons to Southgate’s England in there too? We have now mastered one system of playing, which we needed to do for the team to start getting results.

He didn’t have time to get the players to understand another one and so against certain opposition we don’t know what to do. Over the summer I’d expect the work to go in on being equally adept at two set ups

 

[Otis]

I made a point once and w agreed at the time that robins was too cautious at times and it cost us points , I also made the same point the other week as to why lampard doesnt draw as many games as robins did .

Example



1st half home table last season
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2nd half
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The trend carried on away


Long story short , robins could be too cautious

He could for sure .

It's a bit like with England. If you have flair players, give them the stage to show that flair.

 

[clint van damme]

Yes I remember that, possibly some comparisons to Southgate’s England in there too? We have now mastered one system of playing, which we needed to do for the team to start getting results.

He didn’t have time to get the players to understand another one and so against certain opposition we don’t know what to do. Over the summer I’d expect the work to go in on being equally adept at two set ups

I don't agree with this, we had our best spell playing another system!
I think it should have been utilised more away from home.

However, in the grand scheme of things, we weren't getting higher than 5th so really Lampard has got us as high as was feasibly possible.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I don't agree with this, we had our best spell playing another system!
I think it should have been utilised more away from home.

However, in the grand scheme of things, we weren't getting higher than 5th so really Lampard has got us as high as was feasibly possible.

One of the best parts of being a football nerd is having these sorts of debates. The crazy thing is, with better away form we may even have caught up with Sunderland, just 7 points off them in the end.

 

[GC1976]

Remember DK in the meeting after MR was sacked and he specifically warned Mark Robins he needed help in the tactical areas after AV was removed from his role. That proved so true especially with the poor back room MR recruited. DK does deserve credit for the observation and change.

 

[mmttww]

Candid and articulate? King saw his arse over at least two questions and sounded like an arrogant c**t that was born with a silver spoon up his arse..

 

[Deity]

I don't love him or hate him.
And I'll never love a club owner no matter who they are.
I judge him by each action and I think he's done more right than wrong but he has done things I vehemently disagree with.
But his biggest decision, getting rid of Robins, has been vindicated.

Though I still agree with what BillShankly said:

“At a football club, there’s a holy trinity – the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don’t come into it. They are only there to sign the checks.”​

A perspective that was right when it was said but is no longer correct in modern football with money and use of data so crucial to the successful running of any club.

 

[clint van damme]

A perspective that was right when it was said but is no longer correct in modern football with money and use of data so crucial to the successful running of any club.

I still abide by it and will never be an owners cuck
Obviously there's a generation of supporters who feel different.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I wonder who the football people were that King had taken advice from before the change

 

[CCFCSteve]

Backed Robins and backed Lampard with Grmes in Jan when he could’ve just said ‘no point, nothing to play for, wait until summer’ (a masterstroke of a signing). Made a few errors but usually holds his hands up. Running the club in a far more professional manner than the last shower. Couldn’t have asked for much more from a non billionaire owner

 

[Cally Fedora]

It’s proven to be the right decision as the results prove it. However, barring Grimes Lampard has done it with the squad Robins assembled. I think it just needed a freshen up and I do think Robins had lost the plot with his coaching appointments. Managers tend to have a cycle of influence. Robins had just completed his and it needed freshening up.

 

[clint van damme]

Backed Robins and backed Lampard with Grmes in Jan when he could’ve just said ‘no point, nothing to play for, wait until summer’ (a masterstroke of a signing). Made a few errors but usually holds his hands up. Running the club in a far more professional manner than the last shower. Couldn’t have asked for much more from a non billionaire owner

I would love to know the story behind the Grimes transfer given his in laws moved to Swansea the day before!
must have all happened incredibly quickly.

 

[TomRad85]

I would love to know the story behind the Grimes transfer given his in laws moved to Swansea the day before!
must have all happened incredibly quickly.

Defo knew it was happening and just let the in laws move there anyway.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Talked well on talksport today if you go onto the recap it’s one hour and six minutes in.

 

[covcity4life]

Backed Robins and backed Lampard with Grmes in Jan when he could’ve just said ‘no point, nothing to play for, wait until summer’ (a masterstroke of a signing). Made a few errors but usually holds his hands up. Running the club in a far more professional manner than the last shower. Couldn’t have asked for much more from a non billionaire owner

Cuck behaviour according to @clint van damme

 

[bulko]

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Fuck sake. He talks so well. He’s like a shit Bond villain.

 

[clint van damme]

'The arena we still don't own'

Interesting comment

 

[Sky Blue 1987]

Brilliant interview

 

[wingy]

'The arena we still don't own'

Interesting comment

Freudian slip?🫣

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

I remember listening to the fans forum DK organised after the Robins sacking. I thought he came over candid and articulate but the abuse from some guy called Moz ? was a disgrace. I wonder what this guy thinks now.

"Some guy called Moz"

Is that the same guy that used to run the Sky Blues Trust?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

"Some guy called Moz"

Is that the same guy that used to run the Sky Blues Trust?

Was imvolved yep

 

[quinn1971]

Fair play to him, put himself on the line with robins and got it bang on, wer’e in good hands, there’s nothing negative you can say about him

 

[Diogenes]

Great interview but knocking one out live on talksport was a bit much IMO.

 

[skybluecam]

Defo knew it was happening and just let the in laws move there anyway.

win win situation for the lad

 

[Evo1883]

Fair play to him, put himself on the line with robins and got it bang on, wer’e in good hands, there’s nothing negative you can say about him

Shit hair

 

[skybluecam]

King can't stop winning can he. He's got basically all the big decisions right and looking at the position we are in now compared to when he came in is night and day. I know after the 22/23 PO final loss I felt like we might have wasted our chance with that group of players, but we're back in the playoffs again and this time with far more stability squad wise and the club as a whole is revamped.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

King can't stop winning can he. He's got basically all the big decisions right and looking at the position we are in now compared to when he came in is night and day. I know after the 22/23 PO final loss I felt like we might have wasted our chance with that group of players, but we're back in the playoffs again and this time with far more stability squad wise and the club as a whole is revamped.

Worth about £4mn at least isn’t it making the final

 

[TomRad85]

Worth about £4mn at least isn’t it making the final

Yeh its worth doing for the club even if the fans get their hearts ripped out again.