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itsabuzzard

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,621
hill83 said:
Euro league in 3 years
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20,000 leagues under the sea.

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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,622
hill83 said:
Euro league in 3 years
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So we didn't win the champions league then.
 

ccfc922

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,623
hill83 said:
24 working hours
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So is that 3 eight hour shifts?
 

Samo

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,624
Nick said:
IT HASN'T HAPPENED
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What gwan Nick?
 

ccfc922

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,625
Skyblueweeman said:
Wasn't it 'the next day or two'?
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I thought the headline was within 24 hours, but was probably CET clickbait.
 

ccfc922

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,626
Cov twitter team being scallywags
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,627
ccfc922 said:
I thought the headline was within 24 hours, but was probably CET clickbait.
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More than likely mate
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,628
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,629
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
View attachment 28048
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Ccfc Twitter????
 

slowpoke

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,630
Robins has said four in, two loans, two permanent, if this lad from Man City happens that’s the two loans, they won’t be cheap so perhaps takeover has been ratified but not announced yet I can see the advantages in that. I assume it’s down to ccfc to announce it.
Permanent deals I’d think would take longer and maybe with the COH & Taveres injuries Robins might go for a fifth loan.
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,631
slowpoke said:
Robins has said four in, two loans, two permanent, if this lad from Man City happens that’s the two loans, they won’t be cheap so perhaps takeover has been ratified but not announced yet I can see the advantages in that. I assume it’s down to ccfc to announce it.
Permanent deals I’d think would take longer and maybe with the COH & Taveres injuries Robins might go for a fifth loan.
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Was the before McFadzean got injured?
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,632
slowpoke said:
Robins has said four in, two loans, two permanent, if this lad from Man City happens that’s the two loans, they won’t be cheap so perhaps takeover has been ratified but not announced yet I can see the advantages in that. I assume it’s down to ccfc to announce it.
Permanent deals I’d think would take longer and maybe with the COH & Taveres injuries Robins might go for a fifth loan.
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I'd imagine both will be cheap. If they weren't they wouldn't be here.
 
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jordan210

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,633
slowpoke said:
Robins has said four in, two loans, two permanent, if this lad from Man City happens that’s the two loans, they won’t be cheap so perhaps takeover has been ratified but not announced yet I can see the advantages in that. I assume it’s down to ccfc to announce it.
Permanent deals I’d think would take longer and maybe with the COH & Taveres injuries Robins might go for a fifth loan.
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Was that before, COH and Tav got injured. We need a lot more than 4 in
 

Hobo

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,634
Skyblueweeman said:
Was the before McFadzean got injured?
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I must have missed where McFadzean wont play again? You dont buy players just because a player is injured. A season long one may nudge it in that direction?

However, I thought finding a replacement for McFadzean was key in the summer. We should of ideally sourced an understudy to play alongside him and eventually takeover.

Neither Hyam or Rose ticked the boxes for me. Doyle does but his future doesnt lie with us. We needed to source a League 1 Championship CB with a few games on their CV who we could have developed while McFadzean is still an option for us.
 

skyblueelephant76

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,635
jordan210 said:
Was that before, COH and Tav got injured. We need a lot more than 4 in
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Robins said at the weekend he wanted a 'minimum of four' now
 
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rexo87

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,636
skyblueelephant76 said:
Robins said at the weekend he wanted a 'minimum of four' now
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Yeah I think in total it needs to be 5. A Cb,CAM and ST. Only one more can be a loan


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Johnnythespider

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,637
skyblueelephant76 said:
Robins said at the weekend he wanted a 'minimum of four' now
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Was that when Wrexham were 3-1 up at half time
 
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Cata

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,638
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I'd imagine both will be cheap. If they weren't they wouldn't be here.
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can't see boys coming from Man City or Arsenal being cheap, though you don't always have to cover the whole salary. We do have a good rep for bringing players on, and giving them game time (Ryan Giles apart)
 
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ProfessorbyGrace

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,639
This is really starting to do my tits right in…

Think we’ll be blocking the switchboard at Samaritans if this doesn’t happen.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,640
Cata said:
can't see boys coming from Man City or Arsenal being cheap, though you don't always have to cover the whole salary. We do have a good rep for bringing players on, and giving them game time (Ryan Giles apart)
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I very much doubt clubs such as Man City or Arsenal concern themselves too much with loan splits.

Their primary focus is to find a club to send young talent to that will a) play them in the style they want, and b) will give them consistent game time.
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,641
Perhaps we are generating a little link to Man City, which could indeed come in handy
 
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edgy

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,642
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
I very much doubt clubs such as Man City or Arsenal concern themselves too much with loan splits.

Their primary focus is to find a club to send young talent to that will a) play them in the style they want, and b) will give them consistent game time.
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Yeah these loans will cost us nothing or next to nothing. The lads themselves won't be on the mega money yet lets say less than £10k a week. Clubs like Man City wont be arsed about us paying a slice of that. Not even worth the admin to them.
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,643
Hobo said:
I must have missed where McFadzean wont play again? You dont buy players just because a player is injured. A season long one may nudge it in that direction?

However, I thought finding a replacement for McFadzean was key in the summer. We should of ideally sourced an understudy to play alongside him and eventually takeover.

Neither Hyam or Rose ticked the boxes for me. Doyle does but his future doesnt lie with us. We needed to source a League 1 Championship CB with a few games on their CV who we could have developed while McFadzean is still an option for us.
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I didn't see he won't play again but he's out for 3 months - almost the rest of the season so it's obvious we need a replacement for him.

Wondered whether MRs statement of 4 was before he was injured because if it was, 4 potentially now becomes 5.
 
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sotvtoday

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,644
Charlton eye Man Utd shock despite club turmoil

Just because you get a new owner promising the world doesn't mean it will happen.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,645
edgy said:
Yeah these loans will cost us nothing or next to nothing. The lads themselves won't be on the mega money yet lets say less than £10k a week. Clubs like Man City wont be arsed about us paying a slice of that. Not even worth the admin to them.
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Unless it's an extremely highly rated talent, clubs such as Man City and Arsenal would have difficulty demanding significant loan splits anyway. It would be a complete false economy as they'd essentially be pricing themselves out of getting their youth products vital experience at a decent level.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,646
sotvtoday said:
Charlton eye Man Utd shock despite club turmoil

Just because you get a new owner promising the world doesn't mean it will happen.
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Well in our case King hasn't promised or even said much at all really
 

hill83

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,647
FINALLY
 
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hill83

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,648
I’ve got signal
 
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JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,649
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Unless it's an extremely highly rated talent, clubs such as Man City and Arsenal would have difficulty demanding significant loan splits anyway. It would be a complete false economy as they'd essentially be pricing themselves out of getting their youth products vital experience at a decent level.
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This is true but they can manage to exert significant leverage. When Akpom was on loan from Arsenal he was expected to travel back to them to play in youth/ u23 games and I’m pretty certain that clauses are written into loan arrangements for players on high wages at big clubs like Chelsea (Maatsen for example but maybe Sterling too) that the parent club pays their wages as long as they’re selected whenever fit to play.
 

itsabuzzard

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,650
sotvtoday said:
Charlton eye Man Utd shock despite club turmoil

Just because you get a new owner promising the world doesn't mean it will happen.
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You'll upset people saying that sort of thing.

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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,651
JimmyHillsbeard said:
This is true but they can manage to exert significant leverage. When Akpom was on loan from Arsenal he was expected to travel back to them to play in youth/ u23 games and I’m pretty certain that clauses are written into loan arrangements for players on high wages at big clubs like Chelsea (Maatsen for example but maybe Sterling too) that the parent club pays their wages as long as they’re selected whenever fit to play.
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Yeah but that's always going to be the case. Regardless of the agreement made loaning clubs are always at the behest of the parent club.

That'll only heighten with clubs the size of Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal etc. Such an example also proves my point that their ultimate goal isn't for loaning clubs to cover wages, but rather to ensure that loaning clubs fundamentally commit to giving their youth players game time.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,652
Cata said:
can't see boys coming from Man City or Arsenal being cheap, though you don't always have to cover the whole salary. We do have a good rep for bringing players on, and giving them game time (Ryan Giles apart)
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A lot of the top teams have an arrangement where they carry on paying loanees wages but the caveat is if they don't play the team they're loans to pay their wages, or a percentage of them, for that week
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,653
clint van damme said:
A lot of the top teams have an arrangement where they carry on paying loanees wages but the caveat is if they don't play the team they're loans to pay their wages, or a percentage of them, for that week
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Hard to see how such an arrangement is workable tbh
 

clint van damme

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,654
fernandopartridge said:
Hard to see how such an arrangement is workable tbh
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There was a report about loans on 5live and it was discussing the different ways loans are structured.
It mentioned 2 of the big EPL clubs who particularly go for this arrangement but I can't remember which two it was.
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 10, 2023
  • #4,655
Here we go

LIVE: CCFC board and Doug King statement and news conference
 
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