Do you want to discuss boring politics? (21 Viewers)

[stupot07]

I interviewed some graduates last week for our graduate scheme. They had to deliver a presentation on a topic that had been set. 3/4 out of 8 had clearly used to the same AI tool as they'd come up with the same solutions to the given problem in the same order.

I just cannot understand why anybody would devalue themselves that way? I don't understand why you'd just rely on AI. What do you think people are paying you for?

I've just done two unsuccessful rounds of recruitment, cap reached (100) both times within 5 hours. Virtual every application was as the same.

Those we shortlisted basically did the same presentation. Non them were able to demonstrate any depth of knowledge or experience when we got to the interview questions.

All AI and a massive waste of my time.

 

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[chiefdave]

I'm not on about the stock prices etc. Just that it's not going to go away.

I can't comment on stock prices but only as somebody who implements it and can see the benefits for businesses. (Not the bullshit ai features on a toaster etc)

But if the benefit to the business is that it requires less labour then this is exactly what is being referred to.

As far back as Henry Ford he realised that you needed sufficient workers, sufficiently well paid, to be able to purchase the products you are producing.

Now we're in a race to reduce costs to increase returns to shareholders. This involves reducing staff levels but it will only have a short term impact. As the report highlights, every company will do the same so the savings are offset but you have a huge number of people no longer employed and therefore demand drops throught the floor.

 

[fernandopartridge]

It would be good to read Morgan McSweeney WhatsApp messages - oh he lost his phone!

Strangely a very low priority for the police

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Certainly finding it all very interesting for when I start applying for positions later this year. I’ve so far only used AI for generating possible interview questions, I’m reluctant to use it to do more than that as far as thinking for myself is concerned.

 

[SBAndy]

Certainly finding it all very interesting for when I start applying for positions later this year. I’ve so far only used AI for generating possible interview questions, I’m reluctant to use it to do more than that as far as thinking for myself is concerned.

Might also be worth thinking about ‘model answers’ to those questions as it may throw something out that you identify you need to research more about prior to actually going through the job hunting process.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Might also be worth thinking about ‘model answers’ to those questions as it may throw something out that you identify you need to research more about prior to actually going through the job hunting process.

The state of the job market being what it is that’s not a bad idea.

 

[Sick Boy]

Most people use AI in the wrong way - it should be used to speed up processes and cut down on ‘busywork’.

 

[Nick]

But if the benefit to the business is that it requires less labour then this is exactly what is being referred to.

As far back as Henry Ford he realised that you needed sufficient workers, sufficiently well paid, to be able to purchase the products you are producing.

Now we're in a race to reduce costs to increase returns to shareholders. This involves reducing staff levels but it will only have a short term impact. As the report highlights, every company will do the same so the savings are offset but you have a huge number of people no longer employed and therefore demand drops throught the floor.

Reducing labour has been around for decades?

It's not even just about reducing labour, it's speed, accuracy, consistency. Especially in manufacturing.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Most people use AI in the wrong way - it should be used to speed up processes and cut down on ‘busywork’.

When I was teaching I used it to do things like report writing and general admin, saved a lot of time and freed me up to do better lesson prep.

If it’s used to do the ‘grunt work’ I have no real issue.

 

[Nick]

Most people use AI in the wrong way - it should be used to speed up processes and cut down on ‘busywork’.

Exactly. People will know about 2% of it and whine about it. (Not on about people on here).

 

[Nick]

Certainly finding it all very interesting for when I start applying for positions later this year. I’ve so far only used AI for generating possible interview questions, I’m reluctant to use it to do more than that as far as thinking for myself is concerned.

Yeah I didn't use it to bullshit when I was looking either. I made sure my CVS and applications were written by me in my style.

The power of ai was that I could have a list of skills, achievements and experience and then feed it a job description and say "pick bits out for me to talk about" or to use.

Then mock interviews as well were helpful.

 

[chiefdave]

Hairdressers and Nail Technicians are on the final frontier.

Douglas Adams was right!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yeah I didn't use it to bullshit when I was looking either. I made sure my CVS and applications were written by me in my style.

The power of ai was that I could have a list of skills, achievements and experience and then feed it a job description and say "pick bits out for me to talk about" or to use.

Then mock interviews as well were helpful.

I used it to generate interview questions for a position I have now, it got some of them almost bang on and having had time to think about what I would say was useful.

I’m interested in using it as a sort of careers adviser with my skills/qualifications/experience as input.

 

[chiefdave]

The initial problem I can see is that it will replace a lot of lower level tasks/roles so how will we get the next tranche of senior level people learning enough to direct, understand and check what’s been produced.

Legal industry was an early adopter. We implemented a fair bit of stuff for law firms we have as clients.

They are now suffering exactly that issue. They don't have the influx of junior staff so have killed the pool of recruits they need at the next level.

 

[SBAndy]

Reducing labour has been around for decades?

It's not even just about reducing labour, it's speed, accuracy, consistency. Especially in manufacturing.

It has, but there’s always been other sectors that people could turn to. The medium term risk is that a number of sectors squeeze out labour at the same time causing mass unemployment.

 

[fernandopartridge]

 

[fernandopartridge]

Legal industry was an early adopter. We implemented a fair bit of stuff for law firms we have as clients.

They are now suffering exactly that issue. They don't have the influx of junior staff so have killed the pool of recruits they need at the next level.

Was talking to a litigator from a legal firm I know recently who was saying how difficult it is to recruit

 

[fernandopartridge]

The AI / cloud subscription model is to penetrate, create dependency and then ratchet up the subscription costs.

 

[wingy]

Joined at the hip to USA, not for me?

Think some interference from a certain government are present in this narrative myself , I won't be folding on this subject no matter how it's presented, Release the Epstein files in their entirety would be my go to.

 

[Captain Dart]

 

[fernandopartridge]

Think some interference from a certain government are present in this narrative myself , I won't be folding on this subject no matter how it's presented, Release the Epstein files in their entirety would be my go to.

Some stuff I have read as suggested it is China, though I reckon that's a massive, pardon the pun, red herring.

 

[wingy]

Was talking to a litigator from a legal firm I know recently who was saying how difficult it is to recruit

I've been a little hard on my daughter over the past few months, stating she had the opportunity to go this way at the age of fourteen, it involved an extended day of around four hours travel included,she showed the potential though,she still does if only she realised, doing ok though .