The question really is, it's not a question in reality,it will be a success for how many, what is proven is that all technological breakthroughs have succeeded, Feels like the old programme of Logan's run is upon us.
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fernandopartridge
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fernandopartridge
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It is a bubble, the expected economic benefits from it are wildly exaggerated. They've pumped up stock prices.
Nick
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I'm not on about the stock prices etc. Just that it's not going to go away.
I can't comment on stock prices but only as somebody who implements it and can see the benefits for businesses. (Not the bullshit ai features on a toaster etc)
SBAndy
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I referenced an AI-related existential crisis I’ve been having recently. Very similar to this, albeit I’m 34 and have a 1 year old - what the fuck is he gonna do with this life?
fernandopartridge
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But that's what a "bubble" is a description of, you said it wasn't one.
Of course there are probably some relatively small scale benefits of using AI but these fall way short of what the stock market assumes.
fernandopartridge
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I interviewed some graduates last week for our graduate scheme. They had to deliver a presentation on a topic that had been set. 3/4 out of 8 had clearly used to the same AI tool as they'd come up with the same solutions to the given problem in the same order.
I just cannot understand why anybody would devalue themselves that way? I don't understand why you'd just rely on AI. What do you think people are paying you for?
Captain Dart
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Sort of like the reverse of the scenario after the Black Death when workmen became scarce and their cost and value to their Lords and masters shot up.
Ding, hey guys, maybe I have a solution!
Captain Dart
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He lied. Source Guardian.
and the BBC
Keir Starmer did not know Mandelson failed vetting, government says
A decision to go against the recommendation of the vetting agency was taken by officials in the Foreign Office, spokesperson says.
www.bbc.co.uk
Captain Dart
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Hope everybody with pensions is happy at the Government making investment decisions for them.
Shades of Robert Maxwell here, Minibrain and Rachel will no doubt be using these powers to plug the fiscal holes they create.
rob9872
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Exactly what I said. AI will benefit just like robots and computers and everything else that was here to replace us, it will just move the goalposts, but the one constant is skilled trade. Docyors, nurses, plumbers, carpenters, brickies, hairdressers etc etc will aways be needed and they will if anything become more valuable.Sort of like the reverse of the scenario after the Black Death when workmen became scarce and their cost and value to their Lords and masters shot up.
Ding, hey guys, maybe I have a solution!
Captain Dart
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Good luck with that thought. Doctors are already more or less following a script.
Japan is experimenting with automated care.
Brick laying machines exist already.
Hairdressers and Nail Technicians are on the final frontier.
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He lied. Source Guardian.
and the BBC
Keir Starmer did not know Mandelson failed vetting, government says
A decision to go against the recommendation of the vetting agency was taken by officials in the Foreign Office, spokesperson says.
That doesn't say he lied - that's two different things.
He may well have lied/misled parliament, but that isn't proof that he did.
Christ
It's not my fault if you can't read mate, there are two different things being said there!
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If he lied or misled parliament then obviously he should go.
I'm not saying he hasn't, I'm saying that supposed proof is no such thing.
SBAndy
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Which one?
Sky Blue Pete
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Use of of ai is a skill in itself
SBAndy
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For once I agree with you, there’s no way on earth that he didn’t know about any of this til this week. If, as is very unlikely, this is the case then it’s gross negligence anyway.
Grendel
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The suggestion seems to be that McSweeney was told and then said don’t tell the PM.
McSweeney of course had his phone “stolen” and can’t recall what was on it regarding Mandleson.
Mandleson and his scandals are there in public anyway so even appointing this corrupt snake was stupidity beyond belief by someone who describes himself as forensic when it comes to details.
I’ve recently paid for Claude/anthropic just to see what it can do, what’s possible etc basically to see what all the fuss is about - I’d class myself as a non tech person
I was shocked with the speed and quality of the outputs in particular the ability to undertake detailed research, review and produce information in a fraction of the time it would take an individual. The key will be how people utilise it because as you say it’s not going away, so accuracy and clarity of prompts, ability to challenge and check what’s been produced etc. For those with creative minds (but possibly the inability/skillset to deliver) it will be a game changer.
The initial problem I can see is that it will replace a lot of lower level tasks/roles so how will we get the next tranche of senior level people learning enough to direct, understand and check what’s been produced.
Ccfcisparks
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I'd suggest its a very minimal skill in the scenario Fernando is suggesting.
They will have given them all some prompts, the grads will have typed the prompts into the AI and then collated the output.
Mcbean
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Chief of the foreign office - Ollie Robinson ?
Fast medium bowler ?
Finally construction gets it's rewards like the last fifty year's, I doubt it's 80-90-2000-2020never came?
Grendel
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You could appoint him or any of the England cricket team to the chief job. Starmer will say he wasn’t aware of the appointment 2 years later until he was told the day before.
Mcbean
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Close Ollie Robbins