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SBT

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There are reports of as many as 20,000 protesters being killed. I don’t even want to think about how that many people can be killed in a matter of days.
 
rob9872

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Trump should've played Risk and he'd have realised even with 3 dice to 2, you're not guaranteed and shouldn't spread yourself so thin going for World Domination.

Anyway, back to Iran, whose side should we be on in this one? I can't keep up. I've already traded in my Eu flags along with rainbow and trans ones for Ukraine⁸, Palestine and Venezuela. Do I need an Iranian one and if so which should go from the aforementioned?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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rob9872 said:
Trump should've played Risk and he'd have realised even with 3 dice to 2, you're not guaranteed and shouldn't spread yourself so thin going for World Domination.

Anyway, back to Iran, whose side should we be on in this one? I can't keep up. I've already traded in my Eu flags along with rainbow and trans ones for Ukraine⁸, Palestine and Venezuela. Do I need an Iranian one and if so which should go from the aforementioned?
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It’s horrific what the leaders are enacting so we should be on the side of the people
My reticence with trump is not who’s side he’s on it’s his motivations.

Maduro was nasty man as are the leaders in iran
As I’m sure reform will tell you Starmer is but he’s a pussy compared to these nobheads
 
Brighton Sky Blue

Brighton Sky Blue

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rob9872 said:
Trump should've played Risk and he'd have realised even with 3 dice to 2, you're not guaranteed and shouldn't spread yourself so thin going for World Domination.

Anyway, back to Iran, whose side should we be on in this one? I can't keep up. I've already traded in my Eu flags along with rainbow and trans ones for Ukraine⁸, Palestine and Venezuela. Do I need an Iranian one and if so which should go from the aforementioned?
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A regime that's started slaughtering its own people is probably due for a change I guess.

If you want a cool flag anyway, get yourself a Mozambique one. Never goes out of fashion.
 
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djr8369

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The Philosopher said:
Let’s get this out of the way for the lefty types: “yOuR m0Rê liKeLY to TReaTeD by an ImMigrAnt” in our “sacred NHS”.

Anyway, it was my uncle Don who made the headlines both nationally and locally after he died in UHCW (Cov & Warwick) after being left on a trolley in a corridor for hours and hours. My cousin went in a crusade for answers (it was her dad) and it highlighted the sh*t show in general.

The NHS is a bloated ineffective inefficient bureaucratic mess and a needs totally rethinking along the French model. Socialised free medicine at source with some elements of private enterprise.

The problems are so severe that it’s now impacting on private healthcare.

(this’ll make the lefty hand wringers cough):

Early October I “pulled my arm” messing about with a static caravan and a JCB. Went to A&E, a few hours waiting for initial inspection: “you’ve sprained it”.

“Nope”, I replied. “I heard a noise and it’s agony”. Medic reluctantly sent me for XRAY. Several hours later a severely overweight technician asks why I’m at X-RAY, sighs and waddles off muttering that there’s no notes. An hour later 3am I decide to chip off - I figure since that I’ve got private medical
Insurance I can organise a scan pdq as I’ve always been able to.

Now here’s the rub. Such a mess that the NHS is that they are putting h huge pressure on the private hospitals. Normal taxpayers are paying whatever to go private because they feel they have no option and in many cases the NHS are sending patients down the private route. Could I get an appointment? Could I f-ck for several weeks and during this time I’m being passed from pillar to post by GP’s and consultatants. I simply needed a scan. 10 weeks it took. Prognosis was fully torn distal bicep tendon which needed to have been fixed a few days from incident. It wasn’t. Had to go fully private to get surgery since most surgeons were unwilling / unable. I’m almost embarrassed to say that most people don’t have the means that I have and would otherwise had a gimpy arm permanently.

That’s the NHS. A mess.

Now, in our post industrial decline we ought to really be going full gun on become an international healthcare destination. Quadruple our hospital and medical technology capacity. Encourage health tourism. Free care for British taxpayers, charge visitors by insisting on medical insurance at point of entry and charge the government of the nation of those who use our healthcare system in an emergency.

Think how we’ve become an international provider of education. Become an international provider of healthcare but at a profit to cover our NHS.


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There’s loads of privatised parts of the NHS already and loads of stuff that should be in house contracted out due to wait times.

Presumably those private companies don’t work for free and have a nice profit on top. But yeah, surely all the money wasted is represented by your fat technician.
 
Brighton Sky Blue

Brighton Sky Blue

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djr8369 said:
There’s loads of privatised parts of the NHS already and loads of stuff that should be in house contracted out due to wait times.

Presumably those private companies don’t work for free and have a nice profit on top. But yeah, surely all the money wasted is represented by your fat technician.
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Not sure what the technician was getting fat on, the food in hospital isn't exactly Michelin star.
 
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PVA

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SBT said:
There are reports of as many as 20,000 protesters being killed. I don’t even want to think about how that many people can be killed in a matter of days.
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Most reports I've seen say around 2,000. Which obviously is beyond horrific and I'm not trying to downplay that number or anything.

Whatever the number is it's just beyond comprehension really, pure evil.
 
Grendel

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The Philosopher

The Philosopher

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djr8369 said:
There’s loads of privatised parts of the NHS already and loads of stuff that should be in house contracted out due to wait times.

Presumably those private companies don’t work for free and have a nice profit on top. But yeah, surely all the money wasted is represented by your fat technician.
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What’s your point here? I’ve offered a strategy to solutions. What’s your point other than trying to look contrarian?

Don’t do that. Be better.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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The Philosopher said:
What’s your point here? I’ve offered a strategy to solutions. What’s your point other than trying to look contrarian?

Don’t do that. Be better.
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Because you're suggesting something that requires an increase in capacity in order to be able to succeed without denying healthcare to people in this country. Something we've been told isn't possible because it costs too much.

Regarding the profit motive mentioned, indeed how do you provide a service to people at a lower cost when someone wants to take a slice of it for themselves? And before you say 'being more efficient' being more efficient is corporate speak for cutting corners as much as possible regarding regulations, cheaper materials and understaffing and underpaying so workers are demotivated, stressed and unhappy.
 
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SBT

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The Philosopher said:
What’s your point here? I’ve offered a strategy to solutions. What’s your point other than trying to look contrarian?

Don’t do that. Be better.
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So what’s the deal with you posting anti-Semitic memes and them just getting deleted? Along with the posts pointing them out. Is this new forum policy now?
 
Grendel

Grendel

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SBT said:
So what’s the deal with you posting anti-Semitic memes and them just getting deleted? Along with the posts pointing them out. Is this new forum policy now?
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If you reply to a deleted post that also clearly has to be removed
 
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