Brighton Sky Blue
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Huge amounts of food getting wasted on arrival in NI because it couldn’t be accepted. A Brexit bonus?
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Sick Boy
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She seems normal.
Influencers.
Grendel
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I didn't pull myself up from anywhere?
Sky Blue Pete
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Yep no businesses were affected working through Ireland and Northern Ireland good point
Grendel
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To small businesses like coffee shops and small manufacturing companies who had no exports can you tell me the impact?
The massive impact was clearly COVID far more than anything
Ah yes coffee shops wouldn't have been affected by changes to imports and customs at all, what with the huge supply of homegrown coffee beans grown right here in the UK.
Agree that Reeves looked to remain within her fiscal rules, which included building in a bit of extra headroom, to keep markets happy
However, she’s avoided any tough decisions that would get pushback from the party like trying to reform welfare (to reduce its forecast increases) and gone further with two child benefit cap etc…..Reeves/the government have decided to tax more, borrow more and spend more, that’s not to placate markets, theyre political choices and some in this budget were done to keep party happy.
Ps it’s not fair to suggest there’s no promise to invest in public services, the government has recommitted to investing £120bn in cap ex. My issue is where are the incentives to get private sector to invest, grow and employ ? This all seems to have been forgotten
Sky Blue Pete
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A massive impact was Covid
A massive impact was Brexit which also added significant increases to the costs for coffee shops and small manufacturing companies
But I know nothing cos I’m a c**t
eastwoodsdustman
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It may well be but seeing unemployed neighbours driving brand new luxury cars only advertises the benefits of not working to others.
Its certainly not what the benefits system was intended to do.
Grendel
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Starmer and Reeves said they would grow the country if they were elected. Oddly this promise was made when Brexit was done.
Its funny as you spend your whole time on these threads moaning about people being unfair on Starmer and Reeves and laughing at voting Reform rather than asking why. The answer is they are not supporting businesses, they are now presiding over the biggest tax bills ever, the biggest welfare bills ever, false claims about the NHS improving and more people unemployed.
This has nothing to do with Brexit
CovValleyBoy
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The amount of scribbling on here from you lefties. Maybe
60 days often arrives in 90 + days.
& Net Zero. The one policy that would have a huge positive impact on the economy is paying small business' on agreed terms.
60 days often arrives in 90 + days.
Doesn't matter whether it's coffee beans, cheese, wine, meat. Whatever. Costs of everything went up because of Brexit, not to mention the effect on the economy as a whole.
To claim that Brexit had 'zero impact' on most small businesses is a nonsense.
You're perfectly entitled to criticise Starmer and Reeves for this budget and beyond, but you just look a bit silly when you are unable to admit the thing you voted for has had a far bigger impact on the economy than anything they've done.
Sky Blue Pete
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Haven’t moaned about anyone being unfair to reeves and starmer
You and the whole media narrative appears to be tories had 14 years and messed up and after about a month Labour are exactly the same
Sky Blue Pete
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Lefties
Most of the nation are left of reform and labour
Grendel
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A month?
Sky Blue Pete
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Look back on the threads maybe less
I think it’s legitimate now to start asking questions of them
I notice no comments on the immigration figures
fernandopartridge
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The only welfare reform that would make any significant savings would be pensions, and quite rightly that isn't happening as UK state pensions are already among the worst in Europe.
£120bn in capital expenditure is not new though is it? The commitment was made in 2024 and yet despite an abysmal economic outlook since then, nothing new has been added. It's not even a lot of money in the context of overall government spending, tiny really. We've had over 40 years waiting for the mythical large scale private capital investment to replace public investment in the UK, but there is always a reason it doesn't happen.
PS: Glad you agree it is a political choice to borrow (i.e. sell bonds) not a necessity
Brighton Sky Blue
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I’m sure if it had gone up by 600,000 we’d have heard about it on here.
fernandopartridge
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The benefits system pays a personal independence payment (formerly known as disability living allowance), it is what it is supposed to do. That people choose to spend that money on a car is up to them.
Grendel
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eastwoodsdustman
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If they can afford to spend most of their PIP on a high end car then it could be viewed that the really didn’t need the PIP in the first place or at least the amount they are getting.
The only welfare reform that would make any significant savings would be pensions, and quite rightly that isn't happening as UK state pensions are already among the worst in Europe.
£120bn in capital expenditure is not new though is it? The commitment was made in 2024 and yet despite an abysmal economic outlook since then, nothing new has been added. It's not even a lot of money in the context of overall government spending, tiny really. We've had over 40 years waiting for the mythical large scale private capital investment to replace public investment in the UK, but there is always a reason it doesn't happen.
PS: Glad you agree it is a political choice to borrow (i.e. sell bonds) not a necessity
Agree pensions is the main issue. I’d personally change the triple lock and just make it inflation linked. The comparisons with other countries are never usually accurate as I don’t think they always take into account auto enrolment/public sector, free healthcare, pension credits etc. it’s tricky to compare like for like
Been saying for a while it will get worse as I can see state pension being means tested in the not too distant future…probably just in time for me ! so not sure why we keep up the pretence the triple lock is affordable
other countries are also grappling with this issue
There’s other stuff around welfare in relation to sickness/support benefits as I alluded to earlier. The data just doesn’t stack up for me (big increases in certain claimants). All I want is spending to reach the right people/areas
we need a combination of public and private sector investment, public sector investment alone won’t do it, especially when we look at the delays etc of large infrastructure projects
ps very funny !
Brighton Sky Blue
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Ha!
Grendel
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I don't think its as much an issue as (failing) to Stop The Boats and Smash The Gangs
Rise in number of asylum seekers being housed in hotels, as official net migration stats are released
While the government claims to have halved the number of hotels used to house asylum seekers, the latest figures show more people are being held in this type of accommodation.
Brighton Sky Blue
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People wanted big action on immigration, it goes down by 600,000 and nobody from the right of this forum has anything to say about it.I don't think its as much an issue as (failing) to Stop The Boats and Smash The Gangs
Rise in number of asylum seekers being housed in hotels, as official net migration stats are released
While the government claims to have halved the number of hotels used to house asylum seekers, the latest figures show more people are being held in this type of accommodation.news.sky.com
Sky Blue Pete
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It’s the 45000 including 5000 under 18’s that are the cause of every evil
Remove them we’ll be fine
Grendel
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No one said anything about the illegal migration hotel increase either
Probably because it was a negligible 1.8% increase on the same period last year.
Whereas net migration has dropped 69%.
I thought most people in here would be pretty chuffed with that, and yet...
Brighton Sky Blue
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I thought the people on here obsessed with immigration would have at least passed comment on it going down by 70%. I guess not?
Quite obviously the numerous people who keep saying immigration levels are too high?
Waiting for an equivalent 'she's French' card to come out soon, this is weak stuff.