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chiefdave

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We really just need to bite the bullet, raise taxes and sort this stuff. I dread to think what some people I know in their mid forties with zero savings or pension contributions or property are going to do in twenty years time.
And that generation are more aware of what is coming up. The generation following them seem to largely have a I won't be able to save enough or put enough in a pension so why bother attitude.

On the one hand understandable but if we don't get to grips with things a huge problem down the line.

I know it's a very sensitive subject but we really need to move faster with the right to die with dignity. Every relative I talk to at my dad's care home says the same thing, that their relative would hate the situation they are in, but there's no other option. Not sure I see much upside to creating suffering, draining family finances, creating huge debt and spending thousands of taxpayers money to keep people alive with zero quality of life.
 

SomersetSB

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How did Khan get a ticket for the cup final, not sure he liked football .
Anyway here’s the odds for the next PM
 

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shmmeee

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How did Khan get a ticket for the cup final, not sure he liked football .
Anyway here’s the odds for the next PM

Are you seriously asking how the Mayor of London got a ticket to the FA Cup final?
 

shmmeee

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He didn’t look interested to me, why didn’t he give it to charity?

Why should he?

Ges mayor of one of the major cities on the planet it’s a fucking corpo ticket at Wembley if it’s not for him who the fuck is it for?

People so desperate to be offended.
 

shmmeee

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fuck me, that list is depressing

This happens once a cycle. People forget how betting markets work and that the current PM can’t be the next PM. I’d be seriously worried if I were Badenoch that her odds are the same as someone never likely to be PM.
 

The Philosopher

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This happens once a cycle. People forget how betting markets work and that the current PM can’t be the next PM. I’d be seriously worried if I were Badenoch that her odds are the same as someone never likely to be PM.
Yes, Kemi isn’t cutting through.

The next by-election (Ipswich?) will be telling if a Tory seat flips to Reform.

There’s talk of wheeling out Boris, but again, I think that that’d be an incorrect read of the room.

In 2019 Farage wasn’t in Westminster and now he is.

At some point there may be defections from Tory - Reform. That’ll be the pivot point.
 

chiefdave

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This happens once a cycle. People forget how betting markets work and that the current PM can’t be the next PM. I’d be seriously worried if I were Badenoch that her odds are the same as someone never likely to be PM.
Can't imagine her still being leader by the next election, she's fucking useless. Gets absolutely done by Starmer every week at PMQs and he isn't exactly great at it.
 

shmmeee

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Can't imagine her still being leader by the next election, she's fucking useless. Gets absolutely done by Starmer every week at PMQs and he isn't exactly great at it.

I think the Tories are done. Which frankly is far more interesting as historically the most successful political party on the planet. Why go for Reform light when you’ve got Reform? Not sure what space they occupy. Funny that Brexit has killed them when it was supposed to save them.

Badenoch is awful, but Jenrick would be the same, I couldn’t even name you another Tory it might be.
 

shmmeee

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Yes, Kemi isn’t cutting through.

The next by-election (Ipswich?) will be telling if a Tory seat flips to Reform.

There’s talk of wheeling out Boris, but again, I think that that’d be an incorrect read of the room.

In 2019 Farage wasn’t in Westminster and now he is.

At some point there may be defections from Tory - Reform. That’ll be the pivot point.

The only space for them I see is a centre right party which doesn’t really exist and they don’t have the talent to pull off anyway. I’d expect to see the more headbanger types like Braverman defect and most of the rest of their seats go Lib Dem or Reform. Only five years ago people were talking about Boris being unstoppable and dominating politics for a generation. Fascinating how things change. Will be interesting to see what the new split is. I don’t think on the left you’ve got the numbers for a corbynite version of Reform, someone’s got to be the sensible party. But you can’t sustain three parties in this system.
 

SomersetSB

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Why should he?

Ges mayor of one of the major cities on the planet it’s a fucking corpo ticket at Wembley if it’s not for him who the fuck is it for?

People so desperate to be offended.
Be the big man and give it away, he’d be more respected don’t you think? Good headlines for him?
 
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Grendel

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Be the big man and give it away, he’d be more respected don’t you think? Good headlines for him?

Hes a tosser - giving a ticket away won’t change that
 

shmmeee

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Be the big man and give it away, he’d be more respected don’t you think? Good headlines for him?

More respected by people like you who moan at him constantly over nothing? It’s not likely is it.

I’m far more bothered by sponsors getting tickets and the like than the mayor of the city of one of the clubs playing FFS.

There’s a British Asian mayor in our capital and he’s relatively popular with the population of our capital. I’m afraid you’re just going to have to lump it.
 

Captain Dart

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How did Khan get a ticket for the cup final, not sure he liked football .
Anyway here’s the odds for the next PM
Andy Burnham will be mortified that he doesn't feature.🤭
 

MalcSB

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We really just need to bite the bullet, raise taxes and sort this stuff. I dread to think what some people I know in their mid forties with zero savings or pension contributions or property are going to do in twenty years time.
Will taking more tax of those people now actually help them in twenty years?
 

MalcSB

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Yes, Kemi isn’t cutting through.

The next by-election (Ipswich?) will be telling if a Tory seat flips to Reform.

There’s talk of wheeling out Boris, but again, I think that that’d be an incorrect read of the room.

In 2019 Farage wasn’t in Westminster and now he is.

At some point there may be defections from Tory - Reform. That’ll be the pivot point.
Reform saying they don’t want ex Tories.
 

shmmeee

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Will taking more tax of those people now actually help them in twenty years?

Yes. Assuming the taxes stay for twenty years. So bored of people pretending oh if we just sack a diversity officer on £19k a year we can afford the tens of billions we need to fix the system.

We need to grow up and accept broad based tax rises if we want things like health and social care.
 

Captain Dart

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