Do you want to discuss boring politics? (23 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

No, but are they still claiming asylum having already passed through 5 or 6 non war countries before illegally gaining access to the boat that illegally bought them to the UK? Turkey, Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, Italy, Austria, Germany. Just a number of countries passed through before arriving in France. EVERY single one could be used to claim asylum. So by the time they illegally gaining a ticket for a boat to illegally enter the UK, that ship of "asylum seeking" has LOOOOOONG passed!

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Ah, so you would support more co-operation with the governments of those countries and of France to help process these claims and mitigate the problem?

 

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[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Tories have won the pointless additional layer of local government known as the mayors in Cambs/Peterborough (don't know why they need to distinguish, as although P'boro is a unitary authority, it's IN F*CKING CAMBRIDGESHIRE). Won from Labour who finished third behind Reform.
F*cking inbred Tory Boy or what?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Tories have won the pointless additional layer of local government known as the mayors in Cambs/Peterborough (don't know why they need to distinguish, as although P'boro is a unitary authority, it's IN F*CKING CAMBRIDGESHIRE). Won from Labour who finished third behind Reform.
F*cking inbred Tory Boy or what?
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Coventry used to be IN F*CKING WARWICKSHIRE. Bring it back, Make Warwickshire Great Again!

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Labour losing seats hand over fist to Reform almost as much as the Tories are in county councils. Lost 30 seats in Durham, FFS!
Durham, Derbyshire and Staffs all now Reform. There are going to be some bloody grim times ahead - not simply because their politics are diametrically opposed to Westminster, but because they have no experience in how local government works!

 

[GIMOC]

Has it?

yes. hence why time and time again people vote for the parties who say they will do something about it

Boris main selling point was that and failed

brexit the same

no one is brainwashed, people see it day in day out and fed up

 

[GIMOC]

Until Labour and tories actually do something, they will fail.

people are voting now

Nuneaton and Bedworth taken by reform with the green having one seat

not a single Tory or Labour seat

 

[mmttww]

...a novel and dangerous injection.

Are vaccines novel and inherently dangerous? We give vaccines for respiratory viruses to millions of people each year. Also don't think we miss polio and the other fun things that aren't things anymore as a result of vaccination programs. Don't get it.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Labour losing seats hand over fist to Reform almost as much as the Tories are in county councils. Lost 30 seats in Durham, FFS!
Durham, Derbyshire and Staffs all now Reform. There are going to be some bloody grim times ahead - not simply because their politics are diametrically opposed to Westminster, but because they have no experience in how local government works!

Bring it on
When they run out of other people to blame maybe they’ll take a close look at them fucking selves
Grifters and charlatans
They will be judged on their ability to make these councils work
Can’t wait to see the shit show

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Until Labour and tories actually do something, they will fail.

people are voting now

Nuneaton and Bedworth taken by reform with the green having one seat

not a single Tory or Labour seat

Great
Let’s watch the local councils burn
Wonder who the next group will be that they can blame for everything going wrong within their patch
Brilliant
Farage gives the lead no one will need to actually do anything for their constituency it’ll be x this and x that and nothing to make any difference locally

 

[GIMOC]

Great
Let’s watch the local councils burn
Wonder who the next group will be that they can blame for everything going wrong within their patch
Brilliant
Farage gives the lead no one will need to actually do anything for their constituency it’ll be x this and x that and nothing to make any difference locally

wtf you on about

Birmingham is Labour run and is in turmoil with bankruptcies and bin strikes

reason votes are going to reform is because people are fed up with Labour and tories

Are you that silly not to see people have had enough

if Labour and tories were doing great jobs, they wouldn’t be losing votes and seats

its that simple

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

wtf you on about

Birmingham is Labour run and is in turmoil with bankruptcies and bin strikes

reason votes are going to reform is because people are fed up with Labour and tories

Are you that silly not to see people have had enough

if Labour and tories were doing great jobs, they wouldn’t be losing votes and seats

its that simple

WTF you on about
Can you not see that Farage is in it for himself to keep the gravy train running and doesn’t give a shit about you or me and certainly not about the issues that this country needs to urgently resolve
Its gonna be a shit show and I will say I told you so to every person I know who has voted for them

 

[DT-R]

Ah, so you would support more co-operation with the governments of those countries and of France to help process these claims and mitigate the problem?

Illegally entering the UK having already passed through numerous "asylum worthy" countries is nothing to do with the EU and/or Brexit.

Do you know how the vast majority of "asylum seekers" get a seat on a boat? Are you aware it's not just a "pay and go" service. But as you're so adamant there's no "illegals" ypubalready know how it works right?

This isn't media bias, or right wing propaganda. My own experiences. I once met an Afghan lad, in France to get a seat on a boat he had to smuggle a large parcel in to Belgium. He did, however, when he arrived to get his boat, it was having engine issue. You'd think, having already having done his job and bought a seat it would just carry over to the next available boat. But no, it didn't. And if he wanted another seat on another boat, he would have to smuggle another package again. On the 14th attempt he finally managed to cross the chanel. So not only is he already in a free from war country (France) and no longer fleeing/seeking asylum, he has now smuggled hundreds of thousands of euros worth of opium/cocaine/whatever it was. But he's still not "illegal". Once he arrived in the UK he is now trying to get deported home. He is of the impression that it's 4 strikes and out. He believes (whether true or not i don't know but he seemed to believe it from friends and family) that after his 4 arrest for a minor offence he'll be deported home with £5k cash. His first offence he served 4 weeks for wangling his cock at a female officer. His second offence apparently was shoplifting whilst on licence and similar for his 3rd.
But there's no "illegals" and I'm sure, the accepting sort of guy you are, you'll happily have him as a lodger in your spare room?

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[GIMOC]

No you said I said something I didn't say, read my original post and i'll accept your apology

Stop trying to wrangle your way out of being shown up for talking shite and not being able to read.

It is perfectly possible for Labour to have a bad night but Reform to not do as well as the would hope to do.

If you can't grasp that then we are done.

so reform still had a bad night?

 

[GIMOC]

WTF you on about
Can you not see that Farage is in it for himself to keep the gravy train running and doesn’t give a shit about you or me and certainly not about the issues that this country needs to urgently resolve
Its gonna be a shit show and I will say I told you so to every person I know who has voted for them

and you think starmer cares about us?

they are all self serving but the main parties

voters have stuck 2 fingers at them

you must be foolish not to see why people are voting reform

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Illegally entering the UK having already passed through numerous "asylum worthy" countries is nothing to do with the EU and/or Brexit.

Do you know how the vast majority of "asylum seekers" get a seat on a boat? Are you aware it's not just a "pay and go" service. But as you're so adamant there's no "illegals" ypubalready know how it works right?

This isn't media bias, or right wing propaganda. My own experiences. I once met an Afghan lad, in France to get a seat on a boat he had to smuggle a large parcel in to Belgium. He did, however, when he arrived to get his boat, it was having engine issue. You'd think, having already having done his job and bought a seat it would just carry over to the next available boat. But no, it didn't. And if he wanted another seat on another boat, he would have to smuggle another package again. On the 14th attempt he finally managed to cross the chanel. So not only is he already in a free from war country (France) and no longer fleeing/seeking asylum, he has now smuggled hundreds of thousands of euros worth of opium/cocaine/whatever it was. But he's still not "illegal". Once he arrived in the UK he is now trying to get deported home. He is of the impression that it's 4 strikes and out. He believes (whether true or not i don't know but he seemed to believe it from friends and family) that after his 4 arrest for a minor offence he'll be deported home with £5k cash. His first offence he served 4 weeks for wangling his cock at a female officer. His second offence apparently was shoplifting whilst on licence and similar for his 3rd.
But there's no "illegals" and I'm sure, the accepting sort of guy you are, you'll happily have him as a lodger in your spare room?

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Genuinely whose burner account is this?

@The Philosopher?

 

[PVA]

Reform gains align pretty much with Tory losses so far.

 

[DT-R]

Genuinely whose burner account is this?

@The Philosopher?

Believe what you like mate.

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[Sky Blue Pete]

and you think starmer cares about us?

they are all self serving but the main parties

voters have stuck 2 fingers at them

you must be foolish not to see why people are voting reform

I’m not foolish but you are
People think there are easy answers to complicated questions and are being led by the chief snake charmer himself into the Brexit myth
It’s someone else’s fault and these are the people to blame. Once they’ve fucked off it will all be ok
Then when it isn’t they change the name and repeat the accusations
Well they’re in charge now and I hope everyone is ready for these quick easy solutions to blow up in their faces

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Believe what you like mate.

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Nigel? Lee?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

and you think starmer cares about us?

they are all self serving but the main parties

voters have stuck 2 fingers at them

you must be foolish not to see why people are voting reform

The two main parties aren’t the answer. Nor are Reform.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Has it?

Yes. Even this government promised to end the small boats scandal by ‘smashing the gangs’. This issue has actually got worse since Labour has come in.

 

[Evo1883]

 

[Evo1883]

Thats not a typical (midterm) local election result

 

[mmttww]

I know council elections and GEs don't tend to correlate much but this all feels like a giant air raid siren going off.

If Labour can't get on with the stuff that their core vote believed they'd get and stop being crap Tories, I'm worried.

 

[GIMOC]

The two main parties aren’t the answer. Nor are Reform.

Who is then?

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

WTF you on about
Can you not see that Farage is in it for himself to keep the gravy train running and doesn’t give a shit about you or me and certainly not about the issues that this country needs to urgently resolve
Its gonna be a shit show and I will say I told you so to every person I know who has voted for them

Assuming you’re right, how does that make him different from Starmer or Badenoch? Politicians by their nature are ‘in it’ for themselves.

Talk to working class people up and down the country, they identify with Farage because he speaks their language and is the strongest on the issues they care about.

Looking at how badly some of the councils are being run up and down the country, it can’t probably can’t get that much worse by voting Reform or Greens for arguments sake.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Who is then?

The Greens…

 

[mmttww]

Who is then?

Green Party but I expect that statement to get LOLs and I understand why. Meh, we're probably just f*cked at this point.

 

[Ashdown]

WTF you on about
Can you not see that Farage is in it for himself to keep the gravy train running and doesn’t give a shit about you or me and certainly not about the issues that this country needs to urgently resolve
Its gonna be a shit show and I will say I told you so to every person I know who has voted for them

What are those issues Pete ?

 

[Sick Boy]

Yes, illegals, people in this country without a visa. Usually via a boat or lorry crossing. Illegals. You should look it up. Might learn a thing or 2. Suppose in an expensive part of the country like Brighton though you don't see it. Shame, I reckon Brighton would look great over run with Somalian and Afghan gangs.

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There’s actually a lot of poverty in parts of Brighton.

 

[chiefdave]

I know council elections and GEs don't tend to correlate much but this all feels like a giant air raid siren going off.

Can see the country sleepwalking into a huge problem. Already it’s all ‘nothing to do with the government’ and ‘usual local elections’.

We’ve been here before. Trump wasn’t going to get in once because nobody would be dumb enough to vote for him. Then it was there’s no way people will make the same mistake again.

 

[Sick Boy]

No, SickBoy said my problem was Johnny foreigner. And to an extent, it is. Anyone, foreign born that is taking more from the system than putting into it is a problem. Illegal or otherwise. But because I say I'm anti immigration (mass immigration) the woke left automatically assume I'm racist and want everyone foreign to fuck off! Assume, make an ASS of U not ME!
Anyone who is here to work, and pay into the NHS and the economy is more than welcome, regardless of age, sex, race, gender or ethnicity. Unfortunately you'll always have people (including British born) that will take the piss and abuse the system. Unfortunately we can't send the British piss takers to Rawanda, but people that have broken the law multiple times to cross on a boat we should.

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Did I? Where?

 

[DT-R]

Did I? Where?

Correction. My apologies, it was actually BSB whom said it, not you. I stand corrected.

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[GIMOC]

Reform gains align pretty much with Tory losses so far.

Conveniently you ignore all the Labour losses too

Can see the country sleepwalking into a huge problem. Already it’s all ‘nothing to do with the government’ and ‘usual local elections’.

We’ve been here before. Trump wasn’t going to get in once because nobody would be dumb enough to vote for him. Then it was there’s no way people will make the same mistake again.

Why do you think people are ‘dumb’?

the reason people are voting is because the country is turning to the pits and most people know why

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Bring it on
When they run out of other people to blame maybe they’ll take a close look at them fucking selves
Grifters and charlatans
They will be judged on their ability to make these councils work
Can’t wait to see the shit show

I'm not sure they will be judged on if the councils work. If they fail they'll still blame the government for not allowing them to do what they want.

I'm trying to be positive and think that local elections are used for protest votes and it's far better that these nutters are put in now than in a GE. But part of me thinks it'll just give Reform this platform to make people think that they're a viable option for govt.