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ovduk78

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  • Mar 4, 2024
  • #33,916
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
(don't know what "cope" means)
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It means @shmmeee is pretending to be young & hip and using street talk. I think it means "that's what it is, deal with it"
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 4, 2024
  • #33,917
ovduk78 said:
It means @shmmeee is pretending to be young & hip and using street talk. I think it means "that's what it is, deal with it"
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Cope must be at least ten years old now surely? It’s more “you’re saying that because you want to believe it even though it’s not true”
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 4, 2024
  • #33,918
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Poorly phrased on my part, I meant your second sentence
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They need to try to get through to those young people though. That 9% (not 10) of those 18-24 out of work (studying or unemployed) in the poll I mentioned saying they never intend to work.

Also from same survey

‘As a result, there is a clear tranche of young people feeling disenfranchised and lacking the motivation – or ability – to progress within the workforce. One in ten (10%) young people never want to have a better or more interesting job and 16% of those currently working eight hours or less per week never want to progress at work’

I mean that 9% of those not working never intending to work plus the 16% of those in part time jobs doing less than 8 hours a week, never wanting to progress. WTF ?!!
 

ovduk78

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  • Mar 4, 2024
  • #33,919
shmmeee said:
Cope must be at least ten years old now surely? It’s more “you’re saying that because you want to believe it even though it’s not true”
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I'd never heard of it either, I initially thought that you were just chucking a random word into your posts
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Mar 4, 2024
  • #33,920
shmmeee said:
Cope must be at least ten years old now surely? It’s more “you’re saying that because you want to believe it even though it’s not true”
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Never heard it used in that context, but then again, i am rather older than 10.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 4, 2024
  • #33,921
CCFCSteve said:
They need to try to get through to those young people though. That 9% (not 10) of those 18-24 out of work (studying or unemployed) in the poll I mentioned saying they never intend to work.

Also from same survey

‘As a result, there is a clear tranche of young people feeling disenfranchised and lacking the motivation – or ability – to progress within the workforce. One in ten (10%) young people never want to have a better or more interesting job and 16% of those currently working eight hours or less per week never want to progress at work’

I mean that 9% of those not working never intending to work plus the 16% of those in part time jobs doing less than 8 hours a week, never wanting to progress. WTF ?!!
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Correct that we should be reaching that small percentage while remembering that it is very much the minority.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 4, 2024
  • #33,922
Galloway has been sworn in then. I bet Sunak is dreading him being drawn to ask a question at PMQ’s. Got a feeling that Friday night’s press conference was as much to do with Sunak’s feelings being hurt by Galloway repeatedly referring to him as diminutive when being interviewed by press following his win.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 4, 2024
  • #33,923
skybluetony176 said:
Galloway has been sworn in then. I bet Sunak is dreading him being drawn to ask a question at PMQ’s. Got a feeling that Friday night’s press conference was as much to do with Sunak’s feelings being hurt by Galloway repeatedly referring to him as diminutive when being interviewed by press following his win.
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He also said Starmer was the other cheek of the same arse Tony
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 4, 2024
  • #33,924
Pretty disgusting this, wonder why people appear to have less and less respect for the police


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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,925
shmmeee said:
Cope must be at least ten years old now surely? It’s more “you’re saying that because you want to believe it even though it’s not true”
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What's wrong with 'wishful thinking'?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,926
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
What's wrong with 'wishful thinking'?
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It’s not the best basis for statistical criticism.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,927
shmmeee said:
It’s not the best basis for statistical criticism.
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I think SBD was suggesting you use "wishful thinking" as a description of my ramblings rather than a street term that no-one has ever heard of, not that it was valid for me to adopt it (whether i did or not).
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,928
Cope I first heard of during COVID tbh to refer to looking on the brighter side of some of the data

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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,929
Hardly in common use though, I'd venture. Forgive me for not having a link to Urban Dictionary in my Bookmarks bar!
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,930
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
Hardly in common use though, I'd venture. Forgive me for not having a link to Urban Dictionary in my Bookmarks bar!
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Yeah TBF I think it's very online, I've not heard it offline

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shmmeee

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,931
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
I think SBD was suggesting you use "wishful thinking" as a description of my ramblings rather than a street term that no-one has ever heard of, not that it was valid for me to adopt it (whether i did or not).
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My man. I’ve not been street for about 25 years
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,932
Also. It’s the dictionary fucking definition you bunch of weirdos.

 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,933
shmmeee said:
Also. It’s the dictionary fucking definition you bunch of weirdos.

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It is used in a subtly different context online, more as a noun than a verb but yes derived from that definition

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shmmeee

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,934
fernandopartridge said:
It is used in a subtly different context online, more as a noun than a verb but yes derived from that definition

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Its the same concept! This is like acting all confused at what rizz is (am aware I’m probably lighting more touch paper here).
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,935

What could possibly go wrong?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,936
So it’s sounding like Hunt intends to cut spending by £8billion with the NHS taking the brunt to fund his tax cuts. The Guardian reporting that it will be the biggest cut to their budget in 50 years. Tax cuts no one is asking for and is highly unlikely to win them any praise from any quarter or gain them any votes in numbers that will make a difference to their chances at the GE. It’s a trap for the next government who will no doubt be forced to either put taxes up or borrow more money to reverse this budget.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,937
skybluetony176 said:
So it’s sounding like Hunt intends to cut spending to by £8billion with the NHS taking the brunt to fund his tax cuts. The Guardian reporting that it will be the biggest cut to their budget in 50 years. Tax cuts no one is asking for and is highly unlikely to win them any praise from any quarter or gain them any votes in numbers that will make a difference to their chances at the GE. It’s a trap for the next government who will no doubt be forced to either put taxes up or borrow more money to reverse this budget.
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If no one’s bothered why would anyone care if the next government puts the taxation back to pre budget levels?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,938
SBT said:

What could possibly go wrong?
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Positive discrimination?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,939
Grendel said:
If no one’s bothered why would anyone care if the next government puts the taxation back to pre budget levels?
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I said no one is asking for.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,940
skybluetony176 said:
I said no one is asking for.
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Well if no one is asking for them they won’t care if they are reversed will they?

I think many people consider personal taxation to be too high. If they don’t and they value the services of the NHS as an example they will embrace higher taxation won’t they?

Also Ms Reeves (who really is a Tory) says no more borrowing and staying in fiscal rules. As you have a habit of voting for the austerity party I’m not surprised you’ve gone all Starmer Tony.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,941
Grendel said:
Well if no one is asking for them they won’t care if they are reversed will they?

I think many people consider personal taxation to be too high. If they don’t and they value the services of the NHS as an example they will embrace higher taxation won’t they?

Also Ms Reeves (who really is a Tory) says no more borrowing and staying in fiscal rules. As you have a habit of voting for the austerity party I’m not surprised you’ve gone all Starmer Tony.
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,942
Grendel said:
Well if no one is asking for them they won’t care if they are reversed will they?

I think many people consider personal taxation to be too high. If they don’t and they value the services of the NHS as an example they will embrace higher taxation won’t they?

Also Ms Reeves (who really is a Tory) says no more borrowing and staying in fiscal rules. As you have a habit of voting for the austerity party I’m not surprised you’ve gone all Starmer Tony.
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For starters I’m not all Starmer. If I do end up voting labour at the next GE it will be purely tactical to do everything I can to stop the Tories getting in. My instinct is to vote Green but there is unfortunately a bigger picture. If tactically voting LibbDems was the best chance I’d begrudgingly vote for them too, that wouldn’t make me all Ed Davey. If neither Labour or Lib Dem is the best tactical vote in my seat I’ll be voting Green regardless. I’m all Carla and Adrian if I’m all anything.

The other thing is you aren’t stupid enough to believe that raising taxes is good optics for any party. Especially when the majority of UK press are pro Tory. Labour will be lambasted in the press with the exception of the Guardian and the Mirror and you knows it. So you’re being deliberately stupid just to be contrary.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,943
shmmeee said:
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I’m surprised immigration is such a key issue
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,944
I didn’t realise that Martin Lewis had been funding school textbooks because the government wouldn’t


And they want to strip more out of public spending to finance tax cuts.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,945
Grendel said:
I’m surprised immigration is such a key issue
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Why? We have a government who’s weaponised it and they have a compliant press who’s spent a good decade doing their dirty work for them.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,946
skybluetony176 said:
Why? We have a government who’s weaponised it and they have a compliant press who’s spent a good decade doing their dirty work for them.
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What we have is a deficit of workers, they've brought some in and have been using the others as distraction so we don't notice the official influx!
 

duffer

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,947
fernandopartridge said:

It's weird how Tories pretend to be libertarian when the reality is that they are extremely authoritarian.

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In fairness, they're intensely libertarian when it comes to them and their rich donors.

It's just the rest of us that they like to keep in order.
 

duffer

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,948
shmmeee said:
Also. It’s the dictionary fucking definition you bunch of weirdos.

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As above, trivial point but cope isn't a noun. Unless you're street. Bruv.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,949
wingy said:
What we have is a deficit of workers, they've brought some in and have been using the others as distraction so we don't notice the official influx!
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And the boats aren’t even the biggest issue. By far the biggest cause of illegal immigration is visa overstay. It dwarfs the boat statistics.
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 5, 2024
  • #33,950
duffer said:
As above, trivial point but cope isn't a noun. Unless you're street. Bruv.
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Fine, I, a middle aged data engineer am “street”. I will take the massive fail, I hear your ask and after I go for a run and check the AWS spend on my latest save of my build, you made a fair call and I’ll try and remember the catch next time
 
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