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Sick Boy

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,636
Ian1779 said:
Fascists like you are the real threat.

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Not sure I’d describe the Tories as Islamists.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,637
clint van damme said:
Why?
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Because he's an absolute crank who seems so broken by Starmer that he appears to be suggesting he's was bought for a book to excuse war crimes.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,638
Ian1779 said:
Fascists like you are the real threat.

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Next Tory leader
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,639
Sick Boy said:
Are some war crimes more deserving of immunity than others?
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According to you and Grendel it seems so yes. But that's for the other thread.
 

clint van damme

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,640
PVA said:
Because he's an absolute crank who seems so broken by Starmer that he appears to be suggesting he's was bought for a book to excuse war crimes.
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The Israelis don't give so many of our politicians money for nothing.
When I was saying the same about the Russians and the tories I'm fairly sure you were agreeing with me.
 

clint van damme

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,641
Sick Boy said:
Not sure I’d describe the Tories as Islamists.
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Less tolerant
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,642
Pretty incredible how quickly Islamaphobia has been normalised here and in other European countries, it’s no longer taboo in the slightest for politicians to make it a central plank of their policy.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,643
Sick Boy said:
Was that when @PVA was voting Tory?
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I actually think he may have voted in 2005 for Michael Howard

Someone had to I suppose
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,644
clint van damme said:
The Israelis don't give so many of our politicians money for nothing.
When I was saying the same about the Russians and the tories I'm fairly sure you were agreeing with me.
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Yes but we're talking about a book here.

And it clearly had nothing to do with the immunity for a war criminal like that guy is suggesting.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,645
PVA said:
Yes but we're talking about a book here.

And it clearly had nothing to do with the immunity for a war criminal like that guy is suggesting.
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Was Garry McKinnon and the fact he flew the day his deportation was blocked to meet the US government officials a lie?

Are you saying all these things are made up?
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,646
SBT said:
Pretty incredible how quickly Islamaphobia has been normalised here and in other European countries, it’s no longer taboo in the slightest for politicians to make it a central plank of their policy.
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Yeah it's grim.

As is this on the same topic:

 

fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,647
PVA said:
Yes but we're talking about a book here.

And it clearly had nothing to do with the immunity for a war criminal like that guy is suggesting.
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Why do you think the book is relevant?

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Grendel

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,648
fernandopartridge said:
Why do you think the book is relevant?

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It’s bizarre - I wonder if he thinks it’s a fictional character called Kier Starmer and not a researched evidence based book
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,649
PVA said:
According to you and Grendel it seems so yes. But that's for the other thread.
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Still making things up I see
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,650
fernandopartridge said:
Why do you think the book is relevant?

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I don't, I'm saying it's irrelevant.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,651
fernandopartridge said:
It's a coincidence yes. Even back then Keith was meeting the right wing press for reasons unknown, the Times and Sunday Times. Why?

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Grendel

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,652
skybluetony176 said:
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Who you voting for this week Tony - going full Suella this time?
 

Sick Boy

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,653
PVA said:
According to you and Grendel it seems so yes. But that's for the other thread.
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Ahh yet another made up ‘fact’ of yours. I’d rather all war criminals were arrested and punished; clearly you don’t.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,654
Grendel said:
It’s bizarre - I wonder if he thinks it’s a fictional character called Kier Starmer and not a researched evidence based book
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Your incredible reading comprehension comes to the fore again.

You've read 'Book on places & history in Israel' have you?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,655
PVA said:
I don't, I'm saying it's irrelevant.
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I agree, I don't think it was the point of the tweet

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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,656
skybluetony176 said:
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You were voting for Tory austerity back then backed by the same media

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Grendel

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,657
PVA said:
Your incredible reading comprehension comes to the fore again.

You've read 'Book on places & history in Israel' have you?
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I think it’s you that’s having trouble with comprehension and distinguishing facts from fiction.

Seems a fair few others are seeing through you now
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,658
fernandopartridge said:
I agree, I don't think it was the point of the tweet

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It was clearly the exact point of the tweet

You may have been making a different point (about the Times journalists) but the author of the tweet is quite clearly making it about the book and Israel.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,659
PVA said:
It was clearly the exact point of the tweet

You may have been making a different point (about the Times journalists) but the author of the tweet is quite clearly making it about the book and Israel.
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Are you feeling ok?
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,660
Grendel said:
I think it’s you that’s having trouble with comprehension and distinguishing facts from fiction.

Seems a fair few others are seeing through you now
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No, you seem to be talking about a totally different book that no one else is.

Keep up.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,661
Oh dear
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,662
fernandopartridge said:
You were voting for Tory austerity back then backed by the same media

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These Tory boys are beyond parody at this point.
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,663
Grendel said:
Oh dear
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You've burst into the conversation and are talking about a totally different book.

Unless, I'll ask again, you have read 'Book on places & history in Israel'?
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,664
fernandopartridge said:
You were voting for Tory austerity back then backed by the same media

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You’re advocating for the Tories now! Remove the beam from your own eye.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,665
shmmeee said:
You’re advocating for the Tories now! Remove the beam from your own eye.
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You're voting for a party promising nothing but austerity

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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,666
I hate to agree with PVA as it's most unedifying, but why on earth is Starmer being given a book in that tweet? Are we really supposed to think that he thought it was such a fantastic book that he decided to let somebody off a war crimes trial, with no justification for doing so at all?

I also read the article Steve linked about Hoyle, and I don't see anything wrong with his trip based on that!

Meanwhile... I must agree with SBT. It is slightly worrying that there's a possibility Braverman will indeed be next leader of the Conservatives. You'd hope that'd mean they'd be destroyed in an election, but Trump looked a harmless crank who just shot his mouth off with nobody listening, and he's now mainstream and worrying. In recent years, British politics does tend to follow American politics a few years later on delay, so maybe we will see a Braverman premiership.

What a thought(!)
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 23, 2024
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Deleted member 5849 said:
I hate to agree with PVA as it's most unedifying, but why on earth is Starmer being given a book in that tweet? Are we really supposed to think that he thought it was such a fantastic book that he decided to let somebody off a war crimes trial, with no justification for doing so at all?
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Exactly. It's an absurd tweet.

(though describing agreeing with me as being unpleasant seems a little harsh!)
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,668
fernandopartridge said:
You're voting for a party promising nothing but austerity

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Still better than the Tories. And neither party are promising austerity technically. Both parties plans have spending rising.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,669
shmmeee said:
Still better than the Tories. And neither party are promising austerity technically. Both parties plans have spending rising.
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You are in reality a Tory now anyway
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 23, 2024
  • #33,670
Grendel said:
You are in reality a Tory now anyway
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