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ovduk78

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  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #32,901
Grendel said:
Er that’s not what you said - there are over a million employed over 65 and 68 is now the retirement age
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Isn't retirement age currently 66 and will be 67 in 2028?
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #32,902
ovduk78 said:
Isn't retirement age currently 66 and will be 67 in 2028?
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Something like that I actually thought I was 67 when a year younger.
 

ovduk78

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  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #32,903
wingy said:
Something like that I actually thought I was 67 when a year younger.
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Bit of a bugger as I am 67 in 2028 & full retirement with state pension cannot come soon enough. I intend to retire sometime this year & live off 1 of my personal pensions.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #32,904
Grendel said:
Er that’s not what you said - there are over a million employed over 65 and 68 is now the retirement age
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You quoted me. It’s exactly what I said.
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #32,905
wingy said:
Gas in plentiful supply why are then putting up by five % when they had the last two years get that will be the power equivalent so electricity as well!
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gas has been generating power for a while now edf has six nuclear power plants out of commission for at least a month gas currently taking up the slack currently running at 60% I think.
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #32,906
Oof this is not a good look

What a wanker.


 
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SBT

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  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #32,907
Video looks bad but it's been cut short in a way that makes it look a lot worse than it actually was. This is not to say that Sunak is great, or has been stitched up, but just FYI
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #32,908
He laughs and walks away as she begins to talk about her daughter. Unless he comes back to continue the chat I'm not sure how it's not as bad as it looks!

Happy to be corrected though.
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #32,909
Ah just seen the full clip!

It is a little better yes.

But he still laughs and walks away from her mid sentence. She follows him though and continues the conversation and they do at least end with a handshake. But only because she followed him!
 

David O'Day

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  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #32,910
SBT said:
Video looks bad but it's been cut short in a way that makes it look a lot worse than it actually was. This is not to say that Sunak is great, or has been stitched up, but just FYI
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the extended video has the lady reach out to shake his hand as he is walking away

so it's nonsense to say it looks way worse than it was as the issue was laughing in someone with a valid issues face
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #32,911
ovduk78 said:
Isn't retirement age currently 66 and will be 67 in 2028?
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No there is no retirement age
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #32,912
David O'Day said:
the extended video has the lady reach out to shake his hand as he is walking away

so it's nonsense to say it looks way worse than it was as the issue was laughing in someone with a valid issues face
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Well watch it again and you can see that he’s actually laughing at something said by someone behind the woman he’s talking to. I think that comes across as awkward, but I don’t think it’s as bad as openly laughing in that woman’s face, as the video was originally described when I first saw it.

Again, I’m not trying to say Sunak’s a masterful political communicator here, just pointing out when the editing and framing of a video can make something seem worse than it actually is.
 

ovduk78

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  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #32,913
Grendel said:
No there is no retirement age
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There is for me!
 
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  • Jan 19, 2024
  • #32,914
SBT said:
Well watch it again and you can see that he’s actually laughing at something said by someone behind the woman he’s talking to. I think that comes across as awkward, but I don’t think it’s as bad as openly laughing in that woman’s face, as the video was originally described when I first saw it.

Again, I’m not trying to say Sunak’s a masterful political communicator here, just pointing out when the editing and framing of a video can make something seem worse than it actually is.
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I don't think the walking away is even the worst part of this. It's the fact that he is trying to blame it all on the doctors, as if he isn't actually in charge. He's only the Prime Minister after all. What is the point of voting for a party that is unable to make any of our public services work effectively?

Honestly I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would vote for them. What exactly have they achieved? It's just about blaming everyone else for their complete failure to run anything properly and deflecting from their failures with ridiculous and expensive gimics like the Rwanda Bill.

Don't get me wrong I have always been vehemently anti Tory on ideological grounds. But this lot are not just ideologically wrong, they are also totally incompetent and haven't got any idea how to run the country. And it would appear they also don't care about the damage they are inflicting on our public services and peoples' lives.
 
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Yank

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  • Jan 20, 2024
  • #32,915
Not one to usually talk politics, but had to say something about this.

Apparently their is a big thing going on via Twitter and other social using a hashtag of boycotting Pizza Hut. The reason why?

Apparently, a Pizza Hut location, in Jerusalem, is giving out free pizza to Israeli soldiers.

Give me strength; people really need to stop being such snowflakes.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jan 20, 2024
  • #32,916
Yank said:
Not one to usually talk politics, but had to say something about this.

Apparently their is a big thing going on via Twitter and other social using a hashtag of boycotting Pizza Hut. The reason why?

Apparently, a Pizza Hut location, in Jerusalem, is giving out free pizza to Israeli soldiers.

Give me strength; people really need to stop being such snowflakes.
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Boycotting has been an effective means to an end for as long as I can remember, the part it played in ending apartheid being an obvious example, so it's nothing to do with being snowflakes.

Didn't the MAGA lot boycott a beer in the US recently when it went 'woke'?
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jan 20, 2024
  • #32,917
Yank said:
Not one to usually talk politics, but had to say something about this.

Apparently their is a big thing going on via Twitter and other social using a hashtag of boycotting Pizza Hut. The reason why?

Apparently, a Pizza Hut location, in Jerusalem, is giving out free pizza to Israeli soldiers.

Give me strength; people really need to stop being such snowflakes.
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The fact you’ve noticed means it’s probably starting to do what it intended to do.

Fair play to them - freedom of choice is surely a cornerstone that the flag waving Daily Mail warriors would give their lives for…. The very definition of ‘taking back control’
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 20, 2024
  • #32,918
“Not one to usually weigh in on the cataclysmic war in the Middle East, but I saw some people were no longer going to Pizza Hut and if I don’t speak up, then who will?”
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jan 20, 2024
  • #32,919
clint van damme said:
Boycotting has been an effective means to an end for as long as I can remember, the part it played in ending apartheid being an obvious example, so it's nothing to do with being snowflakes.

Didn't the MAGA lot boycott a beer in the US recently when it went 'woke'?
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There’s also the Nike boycott over sports stars taking the knee.

In this country certain elements have tried to organise boycotts of the national trust because it tells us too much/the wrong history of certain buildings and sites and the RNLI for saving the wrong people at sea.

It’s interesting that the people who organise/get behind these types of campaigns are usually the type to band about the snowflake tag.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jan 20, 2024
  • #32,920
skybluetony176 said:
There’s also the Nike boycott over sports stars taking the knee.

In this country certain elements have tried to organise boycotts of the national trust because it tells us too much/the wrong history of certain buildings and sites and the RNLI for saving the wrong people at sea.

It’s interesting that the people who organise/get behind these types of campaigns are usually the type to band about the snowflake tag.
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I'm right behind boycotting as a form of protest, even if it means its taken up by causes I don't agree with.
Naomi Kleins book No logo makes a case for how effective it can be, (although her arguments in the book are a bit more nuanced)
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 21, 2024
  • #32,921
If it's good for national sanctions to be employed then it can't be denied to the public?
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 22, 2024
  • #32,922
Wokeness.

Driven by capitalism
That's what Andrew Marr seems to be saying, purely driven to sell?.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 22, 2024
  • #32,923
wingy said:
Wokeness.

Driven by capitalism
That's what Andrew Marr seems to be saying, purely driven to sell?.
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I'm not sure it's driven by capitalism but like anything really it's something that capital will exploit if it is beneficial to do so

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stupot07

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  • Jan 23, 2024
  • #32,924
Austerity...


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shmmeee

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  • Jan 23, 2024
  • #32,925
stupot07 said:
Austerity...


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Love Hannah Fry, a little too much TBH.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 23, 2024
  • #32,926
shmmeee said:
Love Hannah Fry, a little too much TBH.
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I think it does give the Tories unnecessary leeway, they'd have done it anyway.

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wingy

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  • Jan 23, 2024
  • #32,927
fernandopartridge said:
I think it does give the Tories unnecessary leeway, they'd have done it anyway.

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You'd get the calculator out wouldn't you ,of course could've had Brown continue,wonder if he'll get sued by the banks or demand the stimulus back?
Sure it Fujitsu program , hope we get to see some measurements on impact
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jan 24, 2024
  • #32,928
So a man who campaigned for Truss to be PM is trying to oust Sunak. I wonder which genius in the Tory ranks he believes is a better option than Sunak. Not that Sunak is a good option, just the best option in the pool that the Tories find themselves swimming in.
 

Ian1779

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  • Jan 24, 2024
  • #32,929
skybluetony176 said:
So a man who campaigned for Truss to be PM is trying to oust Sunak. I wonder which genius in the Tory ranks he believes is a better option than Sunak. Not that Sunak is a good option, just the best option in the pool that the Tories find themselves swimming in.
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He wants the best outcome for his bank balance…. Probably made a fortune off the back of her nonsense.
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 24, 2024
  • #32,930
Who would back Corbyn now?
 
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djr8369

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  • Jan 24, 2024
  • #32,931
Anyone got any thoughts on various senior military figures from NATO countries on prepping for conflict with Russia? Mentions of bolstering forces, recruitment issues, even conscription. Upon searching for the terms of being recalled as a regular reservists I was shocked to find a number of military communication networks have updated articles on the issue today…

It looks like NATO are fretting on Trump winning and pulling support. Russia will seemingly keep throwing bodies at Ukraine until they win a war of attrition. Fun times ahead.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 24, 2024
  • #32,932
djr8369 said:
Anyone got any thoughts on various senior military figures from NATO countries on prepping for conflict with Russia? Mentions of bolstering forces, recruitment issues, even conscription. Upon searching for the terms of being recalled as a regular reservists I was shocked to find a number of military communication networks have updated articles on the issue today…

It looks like NATO are fretting on Trump winning and pulling support. Russia will seemingly keep throwing bodies at Ukraine until they win a war of attrition. Fun times ahead.
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If the likes of Iran/NK/Russia/China fancy a fight just after Trump is elected is probably the best time.
 
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djr8369

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  • Jan 24, 2024
  • #32,933
shmmeee said:
If the likes of Iran/NK/Russia/China fancy a fight just after Trump is elected is probably the best time.
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Absolutely and I’ve no doubt at least 3 of those will pull out all the stops to get him over the line.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 24, 2024
  • #32,934
djr8369 said:
Absolutely and I’ve no doubt at least 3 of those will pull out all the stops to get him over the line.
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Doubt they will need to. Even Gina Miller admitted today trump will win if he’s against Biden as he’s up against a senile zombie
 
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JAM See

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  • Jan 24, 2024
  • #32,935
Grendel said:
Doubt they will need to. Even Gina Miller admitted today trump will win if he’s against Biden as he’s up against a senile zombie
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What a load of bollocks!

How can someone admit a conjecture?
 
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