I think anyone calling for a minister to resign over a fixed penalty is stretching it.
To be honest, I wouldn't know what the protocol is for a senior politician to do the awareness course, it sounds as though isn't to approach the civil service for a private one though.
Tee hee hee
Covid inquiry demands release of Boris Johnson WhatsApps
The government is threatened with legal action if it does not hand over the former PM's unredacted messages.www.bbc.co.uk
Wasn't the issue more that she was trying to get the course rather than the penalty points? I'd agree in the grand scheme of things it's minor, but it's more another dot on her rap sheet isn't it. Same as Johnson with parties 0 whenever they whip out the pictures I think I'd have rather gone home by myself than suffered them as they look like no party I've attended(!) but it's the denials and belligerance with Johnson that makes it a mountain out of a molehill really, isn't it, while Braverman's on a roll atm, so anything that comes up just adds a little bit extra to the impression she can't care less about rules / protocaol / you name it.Didn't Sunak and Johnson have FPN's?
I have been on a course - it was in some place in Foleshill - the notion a Cabinet Minister can attend one is stupid
Wasn't the issue more that she was trying to get the course rather than the penalty points? I'd agree in the grand scheme of things it's minor, but it's more another dot on her rap sheet isn't it. Same as Johnson with parties 0 whenever they whip out the pictures I think I'd have rather gone home by myself than suffered them as they look like no party I've attended(!) but it's the denials and belligerance with Johnson that makes it a mountain out of a molehill really, isn't it, while Braverman's on a roll atm, so anything that comes up just adds a little bit extra to the impression she can't care less about rules / protocaol / you name it.
Most famous people have individual courses though - so demands by Yvette Cooper for enquiries are ridiculous and if you are a well known person why would you take the points which is discriminatory
If she weren’t such an abhorrent scumbag in a senior position nobody would care
So it is a witch hunt then
Amazed as people were so concerned about Vauxhall they aren’t pleased for the uk getting the JLR contract in Somerset
Good news, only wish it was in the West Midlands
Justin tried on multiple occasions to just pay itI can't believe people like Elton John, Prince William or Keir Starmer would go to some Community Hall for a course. It would make it a circus. When Gods spokesperson the UK The Very Reverend Justin Welby seemingly just "forgot" to pay his fines at all yet can lecture us from the House Of Lords - If she took the FPN is that actually not also it seems for some a resigning matter?
Justin tried on multiple occasions to just pay it
Surely the issue was that she asked her civil servants to arrange it. She should not be asking them to arrange a personal matter for her.I can't believe people like Elton John, Prince William or Keir Starmer would go to some Community Hall for a course. It would make it a circus. When Gods spokesperson the UK The Very Reverend Justin Welby seemingly just "forgot" to pay his fines at all yet can lecture us from the House Of Lords - If she took the FPN is that actually not also it seems for some a resigning matter?
This is just getting messier and messier.
Covid inquiry demands release of Boris Johnson WhatsApps
The government is threatened with legal action if it does not hand over the former PM's unredacted messages.www.bbc.co.uk
At this rate Starmer could be under pressure to dump Sue Grey for incompetence. But then again it might just prove that there was a cover up of the cover up.
Labour is rotten I'm afraid, these centrist arseholes apply a different set of rules to themselves than everybody else, that's why they think they're a government in waiting I suppose.This is a stupid move by Starmer too. Can’t point the finger at Sunak about standards while letting this slide
Isn’t he a Corbynist?Labour is rotten I'm afraid, these centrist arseholes apply a different set of rules to themselves than everybody else, that's why they think they're a government in waiting I suppose.
Some very un-Tory state aid to get it, too. The world of politics really is going weird.Amazed as people were so concerned about Vauxhall they aren’t pleased for the uk getting the JLR contract in Somerset
That isn't a thing Tony, it's just a convenient way to try and destroy any vestige of progressive thinking by associating the whole lot with Corbyn.Isn’t he a Corbynist?
He was one of the MP’s that nominated Corbyn for the leadership though?That isn't a thing Tony, it's just a convenient way to try and destroy any vestige of progressive thinking by associating the whole lot with Corbyn.
He's not a Corbyn supporter
It's a cumulative effect of thingsWasn't the issue more that she was trying to get the course rather than the penalty points? I'd agree in the grand scheme of things it's minor, but it's more another dot on her rap sheet isn't it. Same as Johnson with parties 0 whenever they whip out the pictures I think I'd have rather gone home by myself than suffered them as they look like no party I've attended(!) but it's the denials and belligerance with Johnson that makes it a mountain out of a molehill really, isn't it, while Braverman's on a roll atm, so anything that comes up just adds a little bit extra to the impression she can't care less about rules / protocaol / you name it.
He was one of 36 MP’s who nominated him for leadership in 2015.
But it’s irrelevant, as you said he was a Corbynista which he clearly never has been.He was one of 36 MP’s who nominated him for leadership in 2015.
He may have fell out with him later but that doesn’t make him a centrist. He’s on the left of the party.
It’s not irrelevant in context to the post I was replying to. “these centrist arseholes apply a different set of rules to themselves than everybody else”. Someone who nominated Corbyn for leader can hardly be described as a centrist.But it’s irrelevant, as you said he was a Corbynista which he clearly never has been.
Why hasn’t Starmer stopped him for being up as an MP at the next election is what I want to know. But who knows with Sir Flip-Flop
It’s not irrelevant in context to the post I was replying to. “these centrist arseholes apply a different set of rules to themselves than everybody else”. Someone who nominated Corbyn for leader can hardly be described as a centrist.
I agree with the rest of your post though.
Tried so hard to let it go but I can't!A bit of do as I say not as I do, same with Johnson .
She clearly did request a private course, hence her refusal to deny it.
Probably not a massive issue in the grand scheme of things, but they had to settle for getting Capone for tax avoidance!
What's interesting about the civil servant discourse is that the same people who view the civil service as a pointless bureaucracy that does nothing also believe it has full control of everything.
Was talking with someone about how militancy isn’t normally something you ascribe to permanent secretariesUsed to call it Schroedingers Council when my Dad was a councillor. Useless, couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery but also responsible for everything from what colour people paint their houses to whether a student selects a particular Uni.
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