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JAM See

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  • May 20, 2023
  • #29,086
skybluetony176 said:
Tried to use her position to get off a speeding fine.
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Link?

Edit : Found it.
 
Last edited: May 20, 2023

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 20, 2023
  • #29,087
To be fair Sunak should have binned her once she started positioning for his job

Sent from my Pixel 6 using Tapatalk
 

Grendel

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  • May 20, 2023
  • #29,088
Sky Blue Pete said:
Which position?
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Well not the one delivering Gods message that’s for sure
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 21, 2023
  • #29,089

Rishi Sunak refuses to back Suella Braverman after speeding course row

Home Secretary Suella Braverman has been accused of asking civil servants to help her avoid a speeding fine and a driving awareness course alongside other motorists by arranging a private session instead.
news.sky.com

Subtext to Sunaks comments - she's the right of the partys poster girl, they've got me by the bollocks, so there's nothing I can do.
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 21, 2023
  • #29,090
clint van damme said:

Rishi Sunak refuses to back Suella Braverman after speeding course row

Home Secretary Suella Braverman has been accused of asking civil servants to help her avoid a speeding fine and a driving awareness course alongside other motorists by arranging a private session instead.
news.sky.com

Subtext to Sunaks comments - she's the right of the partys poster girl, they've got me by the bollocks, so there's nothing I can do.
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He certainly doesn’t like being asked about it

 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 21, 2023
  • #29,091
I see the Mirror is running a story that she also asked if she could put the fine through her expenses.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 21, 2023
  • #29,092
I don't know if it was a BBC spin but the way it was described on Radio 5 didn't sound that bad really. I know for a fact a lot of famous people ask about personal driver awareness courses. She wasn't asking to be let off entirely.
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 21, 2023
  • #29,093
fernandopartridge said:
I don't know if it was a BBC spin but the way it was described on Radio 5 didn't sound that bad really. I know for a fact a lot of famous people ask about personal driver awareness courses. She wasn't asking to be let off entirely.
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It probably was a molehill to be fair. It’s amazing how quickly it’s turned into a mountain though and that’s largely to the parties and in particular Sunak’s response. If she did ask if she could put the fine through on her expenses though that’s something else.
 
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PVA

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  • May 22, 2023
  • #29,094
She's just fucking awful


 
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shmmeee

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  • May 22, 2023
  • #29,095
Wait. So saying someone is a liar is unparliamentary language. But saying the love pedos is fine??
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 22, 2023
  • #29,096
shmmeee said:
Wait. So saying someone is a liar is unparliamentary language. But saying the love pedos is fine??
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Yep
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • May 22, 2023
  • #29,097
shmmeee said:
Wait. So saying someone is a liar is unparliamentary language. But saying the love pedos is fine??
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Just watched clip and she didn’t quite say Labour loves pedos or mention anything about her brilliant record. Bit naughty from Best for Britain however abhorrent Braverman might be

ps death wish….
 

shmmeee

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  • May 22, 2023
  • #29,098
CCFCSteve said:
Just watched clip and she didn’t quite say Labour loves pedos or mention anything about her brilliant record. Bit naughty from Best for Britain however abhorrent Braverman might be

ps death wish….
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Yeah in classic online style I didn’t watch the clip. Have done now and just says they voted against tougher sentences which is standard hillocks TBF.

Ahahahaha. Brexit was supposed to destroy Labour for a generation, it’s looking more and more like it’s going to cause the Tories to implode. Hard core political ideology: not even once.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 22, 2023
  • #29,099
shmmeee said:
Brexit was supposed to destroy Labour for a generation, it’s looking more and more like it’s going to cause the Tories to implode.
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Always has been their issue though hasn'tit, was why Cameron offered the referendum in the first place! Firstly, thinking it'd be a coalition government again, the Lib Dems would say nope to a referendum,and he could hold his hands up and say he tried... secondly by assuming he'd win the vote and that'd shut them up, but the problem was as he wasn't expecting to have to actually put the vote out there, he ended up with a bloody stupid question that was sure to cause division unless it came back with a yes, and even then a close yes would have fired up Farage and co. so probably wouldn't have helped either!

Still, as they go more hardline each time, who the hell's next for Home Secretary if Braverman does go?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 22, 2023
  • #29,100
Deleted member 5849 said:
Always has been their issue though hasn'tit, was why Cameron offered the referendum in the first place! Firstly, thinking it'd be a coalition government again, the Lib Dems would say nope to a referendum,and he could hold his hands up and say he tried... secondly by assuming he'd win the vote and that'd shut them up, but the problem was as he wasn't expecting to have to actually put the vote out there, he ended up with a bloody stupid question that was sure to cause division unless it came back with a yes, and even then a close yes would have fired up Farage and co. so probably wouldn't have helped either!

Still, as they go more hardline each time, who the hell's next for Home Secretary if Braverman does go?
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Himmler
 

Grendel

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  • May 22, 2023
  • #29,101
Sky Blue Pete said:
Himmler
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I think finals week is getting to you
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 22, 2023
  • #29,102
shmmeee said:
Yeah in classic online style I didn’t watch the clip. Have done now and just says they voted against tougher sentences which is standard hillocks TBF.

Ahahahaha. Brexit was supposed to destroy Labour for a generation, it’s looking more and more like it’s going to cause the Tories to implode. Hard core political ideology: not even once.
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Latest poling has only 9% of brits think brexit has gone well and only 20% of leavers think it has gone well. Said a long time ago that brexit would end up being to the Tories what the Iraq war was to Labour and Boris would be held in the same regard as Blair. Every time there’s a poll on Brexit that prediction looks closer and closer.
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 22, 2023
  • #29,103
Sky Blue Pete said:
Himmler
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Too moderate for NatC
 

Grendel

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  • May 22, 2023
  • #29,104
skybluetony176 said:
Latest poling has only 9% of brits think brexit has gone well and only 20% of leavers think it has gone well. Said a long time ago that brexit would end up being to the Tories what the Iraq war was to Labour and Boris would be held in the same regard as Blair. Every time there’s a poll on Brexit that prediction looks closer and closer.
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Time for a party to want to give us a referendum to rejoin would you say
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 22, 2023
  • #29,105
Grendel said:
Time for a party to want to give us a referendum to rejoin would you say
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If this zombie government pissed off and called an election let's find out
 

shmmeee

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  • May 22, 2023
  • #29,106
Grendel said:
Time for a party to want to give us a referendum to rejoin would you say
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Or just rejoin cos referenda are fucking dumb. You’d have to negotiate any rejoin deal before it could be voted on anyway. For me: rejoin as we were? Of course but never going to happen. Join the Euro and lose out veto? Lot harder to call.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 22, 2023
  • #29,107
shmmeee said:
Or just rejoin cos referenda are fucking dumb. You’d have to negotiate any rejoin deal before it could be voted on anyway. For me: rejoin as we were? Of course but never going to happen. Join the Euro and lose out veto? Lot harder to call.
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That’s the other issue. Rejoining could mean that brexits legacy is a commitment to join the Euro. Not sure how strict that commitment is though. Sweden had a referendum on it and voted against joining the Euro and although they didn’t obtain a veto on committing to joining the Euro like us and Denmark from everything I’ve read about the Sweden referendum it is basically a de facto veto because despite everything project fear… err, I mean the leave campaign said on matters such as this the nations law is sovereign.
 

shmmeee

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  • May 22, 2023
  • #29,108
skybluetony176 said:
That’s the other issue. Rejoining could mean that brexits legacy is a commitment to join the Euro. Not sure how strict that commitment is though. Sweden had a referendum on it and voted against joining the Euro and although they didn’t obtain a veto on committing to joining the Euro like us and Denmark from everything I’ve read about the Sweden referendum it is basically a de facto veto because despite everything project fear… err, I mean the leave campaign said on matters such as this the nations law is sovereign.
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I think you’ll get a lot of realignment under Labour to make things smoother, I’m not a trade expert to know exactly what that would look like. I’d expect actual discussions to join the EU would still be politically toxic for at least the next term, not sure if the CU or SM would hold the same ire though as they technically were never put to a referendum and its only the overly involved weirdos who get het up about them.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 22, 2023
  • #29,109
I see that the right wing snowflakes in power are melting again

Weapons expert cut from government event due to Twitter posts

A nerve agent specialist says he was cut from a conference because of his political opinions on other issues.
www.bbc.co.uk

It’s cancel culture gone mad.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 22, 2023
  • #29,110
skybluetony176 said:
That’s the other issue. Rejoining could mean that brexits legacy is a commitment to join the Euro. Not sure how strict that commitment is though. Sweden had a referendum on it and voted against joining the Euro and although they didn’t obtain a veto on committing to joining the Euro like us and Denmark from everything I’ve read about the Sweden referendum it is basically a de facto veto because despite everything project fear… err, I mean the leave campaign said on matters such as this the nations law is sovereign.
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Yeah, it does seem that the long term legacy of Brexit could mean Britain (well, probably England by that time) being even closer in the EU than before.

But we hold all the cards remember...
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 23, 2023
  • #29,111
Oh dear. Another day, another Braverman story. Apparently she has again broken the ministerial code as she failed to declare personal interests in Rwanda and more specifically members of the Rwandan government before becoming Home Secretary.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 23, 2023
  • #29,112
If a condition of rejoining the EU was joining the Euro it should be an absolute no from anybody, regardless of how they voted. Currency sovereignty is too important.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 23, 2023
  • #29,113
fernandopartridge said:
If a condition of rejoining the EU was joining the Euro it should be an absolute no from anybody, regardless of how they voted. Currency sovereignty is too important.
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Pity we left when currency sovereignty was respected then
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 23, 2023
  • #29,114
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Pity we left when currency sovereignty was respected then
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Yeah. I've got no problem with a no for if it was you must join the Euro within X years, anyway. A vague aspiration to join when conditions are acceptable is another matter however, as that's just soft soap bollocks to appease other countries.

Problem we're in now however is it's almost inevitable that any deal to re-join would be worse than the one we had when we left, won't it.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 23, 2023
  • #29,115
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Pity we left when currency sovereignty was respected then
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What's changed and does that not indicate that a lot of the suspicions about the EU (ever closer union) are or were well-founded?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 23, 2023
  • #29,116
fernandopartridge said:
What's changed and does that not indicate that a lot of the suspicions about the EU (ever closer union) are or were well-founded?
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What’s changed is that we left when we had special exemptions like that and now if we try to rejoin they can dictate the terms. This is the problem when you decide to flip off most of the continent.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 23, 2023
  • #29,117
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What’s changed is that we left when we had special exemptions like that and now if we try to rejoin they can dictate the terms. This is the problem when you decide to flip off most of the continent.
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So the reason is spite?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 23, 2023
  • #29,118
fernandopartridge said:
If a condition of rejoining the EU was joining the Euro it should be an absolute no from anybody, regardless of how they voted. Currency sovereignty is too important.
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Should have thought about that before you voted leave in the first place.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 23, 2023
  • #29,119
skybluetony176 said:
Should have thought about that before you voted leave in the first place.
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What are you talking about? Voting leave most definitely retains currency sovereignty
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 23, 2023
  • #29,120
fernandopartridge said:
So the reason is spite?
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Who chose to leave while loudly slagging off the other party and saying we’d be far better off out of it?
 
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