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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,791
skybluetony176 said:
So it got largely missed yesterday but it turns out that Sunak is barely paying the basic tax rate on millions of pounds of earnings. Talk about a rigged tax system. Some suggestion that he also pays tax in the US too but he’s only released his UK tax return.
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Meanwhile everybody is concentrating on Johnson breaking silly lockdown rules
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,792
PVA said:
It's a really strange take to suggest that people aren't interested in it or that it isn't big news.
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People with a ridiculously simplistic goodies Vs baddies view of politics are fascinated by it
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,793
fernandopartridge said:
People with a ridiculously simplistic goodies Vs baddies view of politics are fascinated by it
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That's great, but so are millions of people who are quite insulted and angry at the PM breaking the very rules he set and made us follow.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,794
fernandopartridge said:
Meanwhile everybody is concentrating on Johnson breaking silly lockdown rules
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Really? I fought everyone was concentrating on Johnson lying to parliament.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,795
PVA said:
That's great, but so are millions of people who are quite insulted and angry at the PM breaking the very rules he set and made us follow.
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Especially the families of people who didn’t survive the pandemic. They couldn’t say goodbye to loved ones but we’re told to believe that it was essential for No.10 to have a party to say goodbye to someone having a career change.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,796
SBT said:
Unbelievably, after seeing how uninterested the general public is in the Boris story from yesterday’s sales figures, all of these papers have decided to put the same story on their front pages again today.
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I noticed the Daily Mail shared it with a story of Amanda Platell going on a blind date with a guardian reader - I’d imagine a of you want to know how it went
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,797
Grendel said:
I noticed the Daily Mail shared it with a story of Amanda Platell going on a blind date with a guardian reader - I’d imagine a of you want to know how it went
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You’d imagine what now?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,798
SBT said:
You’d imagine what now?
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A spelling error - as Amanda’s date shared front page with Boris everyone is interested in how the date went?
 
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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,799
Grendel said:
I noticed the Daily Mail shared it with a story of Amanda Platell going on a blind date with a guardian reader - I’d imagine a of you want to know how it went
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How did it go?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,800
fernandopartridge said:
People with a ridiculously simplistic goodies Vs baddies view of politics are fascinated by it
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The thing is not only have you clearly got an opinion on it so you’re clearly fascinated about it too. Not only that you’ve once again fallen for the Boris trap and spin. He’s convinced you that it’s about breaking lockdown rules, it’s not. It’s about wether he deliberately lied to parliament or not. It’s not even about if he lied or not, he can’t dispute that so he’s trying to change the narrative. And you’ve fell for his propaganda. Again.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,801
Front page news today - I’m sure millions are fascinated

What happened when Amanda Platell went on a blind date?

AMANDA PLATELL: Arriving at the restaurant early, the first thing I did was beg the maitre d' to change tables to avoid the overhead lighting (so unflattering for the older woman).
www.dailymail.co.uk
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,802
Grendel said:
A spelling error - as Amanda’s date shared front page with Boris everyone is interested in how the date went?
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I don’t want to upset you, but sometimes I do disagree with some of the Daily Mail’s front page choices.

Who is Amanda Platell btw?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,803
shmmeee said:
TBF 37% tax rate for a millionaire is a joke.
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It’s on annual income though. For the last three years he’s earning around 330k per annum and paying 120k per annum income tax. Hardly outrageous

As I mentioned earlier there is an argument to align CGT with an individuals income tax band but nobodys gone there yet

Basically he’s paying his taxes
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,804
SBT said:
I don’t want to upset you, but sometimes I do disagree with some of the Daily Mail’s front page choices.

Who is Amanda Platell btw?
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She’s William Hague’s press secretary when Tory leader - not a political correspondent either then
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,805
skybluetony176 said:
Especially the families of people who didn’t survive the pandemic. They couldn’t say goodbye to loved ones but we’re told to believe that it was essential for No.10 to have a party to say goodbye to someone having a career change.
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Thankfully I didn't lose anyone during Covid so my story pales into insignificance compared to many. But my daughter was born in Nov 2020 and spent the first few days of her life in hospital. I was only allowed to see her for 2 hours a day. Meanwhile Downing street were partying. Fuck those cunts.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,806
Grendel said:
She’s William Hague’s press secretary when Tory leader - not a political correspondent either then
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Wow, big get for the Mail. I suppose she must be better known to men of a certain age.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,807
SBT said:
Wow, big get for the Mail. I suppose she must be better known to men of a certain age.
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Not really - oddly I’ve heard of Alistair Campbell as well
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,808
Grendel said:
Not really - oddly I’ve heard of Alistair Campbell as well
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Check out Jeremy Paxman over here!
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,809
skybluetony176 said:
#prayfornads

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For a second there I thought your wife was trying to talk you into a vasectomy.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,810
Grendel said:
Front page news today - I’m sure millions are fascinated

What happened when Amanda Platell went on a blind date?

AMANDA PLATELL: Arriving at the restaurant early, the first thing I did was beg the maitre d' to change tables to avoid the overhead lighting (so unflattering for the older woman).
www.dailymail.co.uk
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Hmm.. Daily Mail trying to trivialise Boris' actions by sharing the front page with a fluff story. I wonder if they might have some sort of agenda...
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,811
CCFCSteve said:
It’s on annual income though. For the last three years he’s earning around 330k per annum and paying 120k per annum income tax. Hardly outrageous

As I mentioned earlier there is an argument to align CGT with an individuals income tax band but nobodys gone there yet

Basically he’s paying his taxes
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I'd be all for just treating any type of 'income', including capital gains as income and taxing it as that. Simplifying tax matters.

Also do the same with IHT. Tax it as income for the beneficiary. If you chose to have it drip fed from trust then you may well pay less tax but will recieve the money over a longer period of time.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,812
skybluetony176 said:
The thing is not only have you clearly got an opinion on it so you’re clearly fascinated about it too. Not only that you’ve once again fallen for the Boris trap and spin. He’s convinced you that it’s about breaking lockdown rules, it’s not. It’s about wether he deliberately lied to parliament or not. It’s not even about if he lied or not, he can’t dispute that so he’s trying to change the narrative. And you’ve fell for his propaganda. Again.
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When have I ever fallen for Boris Johson propaganda? As i pointed out to you the Tory leader at the point of the EU ref was David Cameron, you should know as you voted for him
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,813
fernandopartridge said:
When have I ever fallen for Boris Johson propaganda? As i pointed out to you the Tory leader at the point of the EU ref was David Cameron, you should know as you voted for him
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So you’re saying it was the unofficial leave campaign’s propaganda that you fell for then. Interesting.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,814
Inflation rate buried too
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,815
skybluetony176 said:
So you’re saying it was the unofficial leave campaign’s propaganda that you fell for then. Interesting.
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Tony - you voted for the party that offered a referendum and not only that to show the groundswell of growing support for it voted ukip and defended Farage on this forum
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,816
skybluetony176 said:
So you’re saying it was the unofficial leave campaign’s propaganda that you fell for then. Interesting.
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Not really Tone, I'd made my mind up based on my many years of experience of working within EU regulations which I know are designed to give corporations power to win contracts across Europe and drive a race to the bottom.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,817
Heeereees Tony!

Imposter on GMK

Just noticed I have an imposter on GMK. Sounds like a smear campaign against my good name as I can currently only find the one post and it has racial undertones, strange that as I have been attacked on here by some GMK faithful for pointing out casual racism on GMK threads. Still imitation is a...
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,818
CCFCSteve said:
It’s on annual income though. For the last three years he’s earning around 330k per annum and paying 120k per annum income tax. Hardly outrageous

As I mentioned earlier there is an argument to align CGT with an individuals income tax band but nobodys gone there yet

Basically he’s paying his taxes
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Oh yeah sure, just taking the chance to complain about tax levels of the wealthy. Politically the only I see is it kinda scuppers their “Keir Starmer is the out of touch elite” line.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,819
fernandopartridge said:
Not really Tone, I'd made my mind up based on my many years of experience of working within EU regulations which I know are designed to give corporations power to win contracts across Europe and drive a race to the bottom.
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The bottom of what? The country has gone to shit if you hadn’t noticed and Brexit has very much played its part in that. You seem to have spectacularly misunderstood that almost 100% of UK business population is SME’s and for SME’s membership of the EU was a race to the top. Brexit shrunk its home market to one nation overnight. You seem to be saying that you made your judgement based on economic and business factors. If that’s true you’re an idiot because you’ve spectacularly failed to understand the value of EU membership to the UK business.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,820
skybluetony176 said:
The bottom of what? The country has gone to shit if you hadn’t noticed and Brexit has very much played its part in that. You seem to have spectacularly misunderstood that almost 100% of UK business population is SME’s and for SME’s membership of the EU was a race to the top. Brexit shrunk its home market to one nation overnight. You seem to be saying that you made your judgement based on economic and business factors. If that’s true you’re an idiot because you’ve spectacularly failed to understand the value of EU membership to the UK business.
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EU membership is not the only route to the single market / customs union so please stop trying to patronise me you berk.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,821
fernandopartridge said:
EU membership is not the only route to the single market / customs union so please stop trying to patronise me you berk.
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You don’t need my help to patronise you, you’re doing an amicable job on your own there. Tell me more about your observations and thought processes about how you voted leave to punish corporations but ended punishing punishing over 99% of the business population that employs over 60% of the UK workforce? Because your thinking to me sounds completely deranged.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,822
skybluetony176 said:
You don’t need my help to patronise you, you’re doing an amicable job on your own there. Tell me more about your observations and thought processes about how you voted leave to punish corporations but ended punishing punishing over 99% of the business population that employs over 60% of the UK workforce? Because your thinking to me sounds completely deranged.
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This line of argument is like when Grendel tries one upping people for saying Gyokeres was shit a few years ago
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,823
Brighton Sky Blue said:
This line of argument is like when Grendel tries one upping people for saying Gyokeres was shit a few years ago
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It’s mental how much of the forum lately is just this kind of stuff, over and over again.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,824
SBT said:
It’s mental how much of the forum lately is just this kind of stuff, over and over again.
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It’s the entrance exam for the CWR phone in
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 23, 2023
  • #27,825
skybluetony176 said:
You don’t need my help to patronise you, you’re doing an amicable job on your own there. Tell me more about your observations and thought processes about how you voted leave to punish corporations but ended punishing punishing over 99% of the business population that employs over 60% of the UK workforce? Because your thinking to me sounds completely deranged.
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