Nuskyblue
Well-Known Member
Midsomer Murders but warm?
Midsomer Murders but warm?massively popular though
At first I’d presumed he’d said it on air. It’s setting a dangerous precedent.
If he had supported the govt he wouldn't have tweeted anything at all.Do you think he would have been cancelled if he had tweeted support for the Government's approach? No of course not.
Meanwhile we have the Chair of the BBC who has donated funds to the Tory party; is a friend if Boris Johnson and arranged for a Johnson to get a loan. No double standards at all.
pretty muchMidsomer Murders but warm?
You're spectacularly missing the point on all this.
Hangover TV. I always used to watch Midsomer after a night of over indulgence.pretty much
nice easy tv, prime bbc 1 fodder
Yes. Friend of Boris Johnson and of course his role in getting Johnson a loan had no impact on him getting the job.Hasn’t the BBC chairman donated to the Tories in the past?
I don't think it's me missing the point here.
You and most people were absolutely silent until someone with a left wing opinion got into hot water. Either free speech exists or it doesn't. Not 'it's ok when we do it', as we are seeing here.
I don't think it's me missing the point here.
You and most people were absolutely silent until someone with a left wing opinion got into hot water. Either free speech exists or it doesn't. Not 'it's ok when we do it', as we are seeing here.
I don't think it's me missing the point here.
You and most people were absolutely silent until someone with a left wing opinion got into hot water. Either free speech exists or it doesn't. Not 'it's ok when we do it', as we are seeing here.
I think free speech and the concept of cancel culture are 2 entirely different things.
I will also guarantee that you'll find examples of hypocrisy regarding free speech from everyone on here who claims to be an advocate of it, including myself. Its such a complex issue.
And free speech surely doesn't mean you can say what you want without consequence?
You are missing the point.
It's not about free speech, or cancel culture, or Jeremy Clarkson.
It's the double standards from the BBC on what their employees are allowed to say, depending on who they are criticising.
And that if you criticise the government they lean on your employer to have you dismissed.
Looking at the people supporting Lineker it's not a left or right thing.
hes accused the former political editor of the bbc for being a Tory mouthpiece but surely that’s freedom of speech
It’s amazing how dumbed down the country has become with all the bullshit culture wars.
Again, it depends on who's making the rules. As I said - there's hypocrisy everywhere. I just think policing language is stupid, and that's my viewpoint in general.
There's war going on, starving children, and we're worried about what someone's saying? I don't think I'll ever get it I'm afraid.
It comes back to that though. Why are people supporting Linekar? Largely because they think s
he should be allowed to say what he wants. Those people were absolutely silent when others were getting in trouble after expressing an opinion that they didn't agree with politically.
We've got people saying that it's dangerous. I agree with that, but where the fuck were they for the last several years?
Edit: Misgendered Linekar
I know you're trying to be funny, but you actually misspelled his name. May be worth an "Edit".
It comes back to that though. Why are people supporting Linekar? Largely because they think s
he should be allowed to say what he wants. Those people were absolutely silent when others were getting in trouble after expressing an opinion that they didn't agree with politically.
We've got people saying that it's dangerous. I agree with that, but where the fuck were they for the last several years?
Edit: Misgendered Linekar
Yeah, I also used 'she' instead of 'he' by accident.
Not really trying to be funny, but it is on topic. Sorry if I offended you.
Actually I do have the ability to read, ergo the point about the misspelling. Not sure what you think I would be offended about? You appear to be having some sort of breakdown on this thread though. Also not sure what "topic" you think we're on.
Sorry to disagree, but the country isn't dumbed down, and culture wars are not bullshit.It’s amazing how dumbed down the country has become with all the bullshit culture wars.
Free speech is not absolute. There are things we cannot say. Civilised communities draw lines which we can debate til the cows come home.
There is always inconsistency in our views, and actions, because we are complex beings with our own life experience and prejudices.
It seems to me that left and right have their core values, which they bang on about and sometimes to toxic extremes.
But on this occasion, free speech is the issue, and that's supposed to be a core value of the right. Whatever they think of Lineker's tweet they should defend his right to say it.
If they hide behind, "the bbc should be impartial" they are making exemptions from their core value and are moving towards authoritarianism.
Which incidently will nicely reveal they are what they accuse Lineker of saying they are.
I dont care whether or not Lineker is allowed to say what he wants or not, (plenty of jobs have restrictions, it's not cancel culture, it goes with the territory), Icare, as a licence fee payer, that the rules aren't being applied fairly.
The BBC is waiting patiently for the silent majority to find their voice and back them up. Oh, wait… they don’t exist like everything else in the phoney culture war.
According to the Mail, so take it with a pinch of salt, the production team are talking with their union to see if they can walk out. Although it seems they may require a ballot first which wouldn't happen before Saturdays show
Where for some reason the BBC had no issue with sports presenters discussing human rights at lengthThere's more protests going on than there was for Qatar!
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