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Evo1883

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,626
Think it's time old Jeremy shut the fuck up too...it's time his worshippers moved on too.
 

Ian1779

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,627
Evo1883 said:
Think it's time old Jeremy shut the fuck up too...it's time his worshippers moved on too. View attachment 20013
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Thought that’s what you want though. No patronising or condescending of the working class there in that tweet.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,628
clint van damme said:
I see Laurence Fox is opening a pub with Richard Tice, I 'd rather be drink in the boozer on the moors in An American werewolf in London .
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What’s the betting it’s called the Union Jack and then they paint it upside down on the sign without noticing.
 

Evo1883

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,629
Ian1779 said:
Thought that’s what you want though. No patronising or condescending of the working class there in that tweet.
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No but he had his chance, and many Labour supporters can't let him go .
Still cling onto him like he could come back and save the party .

It's embarrassing

He has way too much influence still on many Labour supporters
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,630
Evo1883 said:
No but he had his chance, and many Labour supporters can't let him go .
Still cling onto him like he could come back and save the party .

It's embarrassing

He has way too much influence still on many Labour supporters
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He’s not coming back - we all know that. And maybe he’s got influence still because the ‘new leadership’ have had nothing compelling to replace what he’s saying. He’s an independent MP now anyway... don’t see why those that don’t like him still worry about what he has to say.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,631
Evo1883 said:
I can't ever remember watching anything with him In
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I think he was in a film called the cave, or something like that. I saw it by accident and as far as I can remember he basically played himself.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,632
Foster wins West Mids PCC - Seems Street is more popular than his party/
 

David O'Day

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,633
stupot07 said:
Extremely popular in 2019??? What planet is she on?

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
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I think she means the fact that if remove all traces of Labour from them and ask the electorate they are very much in favour of the policies.
 

SomersetSB

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,634
The Labour Party eating itself,Comedy gold.
Got a beer chilling out, a big city win and the Deniers on here can’t see why people won’t vote Labour.
Have a good evening all Cheers!!
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,635
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,636
dubed said:
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But that's just made up, this isn't:

Boris Johnson did write that “blue collar” men are likely to be drunk, criminal, aimless, feckless and hopeless - Full Fact

In a 1995 Spectator article, Boris Johnson wrote that ”blue collar” men are likely to be drunk, criminal, aimless, feckless and hopeless.
fullfact.org

but he's got a posh voice and can throw out a bit of Latin so its OK!
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,637
Scotland

Pro independence parties 72 seats
Unionist parties under 60


Unionist vote totals 51%



 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,638
I just read something on twitter that was quite staggering really .

Unionist votes in Scotland were split so much so between Labour, lib and tory , that had they been centralised to 1 party in every region the SNP would have won less than 15 seats .
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,639
clint van damme said:
But that's just made up, this isn't:

Boris Johnson did write that “blue collar” men are likely to be drunk, criminal, aimless, feckless and hopeless - Full Fact

In a 1995 Spectator article, Boris Johnson wrote that ”blue collar” men are likely to be drunk, criminal, aimless, feckless and hopeless.
fullfact.org

but he's got a posh voice and can throw out a bit of Latin so its OK!
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It seems when Labour insinuate it, it's the most dreadful behaviour imaginable.

When the Tories actually say it, in black and white, people ask if they can have a lick of their boots and promise they'll give them their vote.
 

chiefdave

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,640
Evo1883 said:
It's at the point where the libs , Labour and the greens need to start looking at some sort of coalition
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How much value do any of those 'brands' have anymore? Is there a discussion to be had to merging all three under a new name to try and lose some of the baggage.

Very drastic but I can't see any sign of a Labour resurgence anytime soon and the Lub Dem and Greens are firmly on the sidelines.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,641
Evo1883 said:
Scotland

Pro independence parties 72 seats
Unionist parties under 60


Unionist vote totals 51%



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What calculator worked that out?
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,642
wingy said:
What calculator worked that out?
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Total vote numbers apparently v seats won.

Unionist votes won by around 50,000 overall .

With around 1 million less votes than at the referendum in 2014
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,643
Evo1883 said:
Total vote numbers apparently v seats won.

Unionist votes won by around 50,000 overall .

With around 1 million less votes than at the referendum in 2014
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Ah 51%of the vote.
Yeah I wondered whether 63%turnout standard or higher because of the chance of referendum?
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,644
wingy said:
What calculator worked that out?
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Chances of Boris allowing a referendum - 0
 

Evo1883

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,645
wingy said:
Ah 51%of the vote.
Yeah I wondered whether 63%turnout standard or higher because of the chance of referendum?
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Basically I'm not sure r nicola has a true mandate to call a referendum
 

clint van damme

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,646
rumours that Lisa Nandy is next. He's lost the plot.
 

Evo1883

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,647



Where's the mandate nicola ? Ya wee witch
 
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wingy

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,648
Evo1883 said:
Basically I'm not sure r nicola has a true mandate to call a referendum
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Yeah I get that but it'd be interesting to see what %of the overall vote Cameron had when he called the EU one
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,649
wingy said:
Yeah I get that but it'd be interesting to see what %of the overall vote Cameron had when he called the EU one
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Did anybody actually care a referendum was called though ? As everybody expected a remain win .

This is the break up of the union , its our constitution , 400 years .

Not some trading bloc agreement

Has to be concrete for Westminster to allow it to happen, and with less votes than pro independence parties , why would Westminster allow it...they wont
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,650
clint van damme said:
rumours that Lisa Nandy is next. He's lost the plot.
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As public enemy said "Don't believe the Hype (or what you read on twitter)"
 

SomersetSB

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,651
Evo1883 said:
Diane is great for the tories too, always a laugh a minute
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Labour ditched working class voters…and now they’ve ditched Labour for good

Labour ditched working class voters...and now they've ditched Labour for good

MY mother – East End girl, militant dinner lady, a proud union member – would not have dreamed of voting Tory. She would have seen voting Tory as a betrayal of her class, her community and everythi…
www.thesun.co.uk
 

SomersetSB

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,652
Labour’s finished until it finds a cure for Long Corbyn – it needs wholesale root-and-branch reform

Labour’s finished until it finds a cure for Long Corbyn

SIR Keir Starmer faces a huge challenge coming back from this week’s disastrous election results. Even the Labour leader’s most optimistic MPs know they are facing at least the next decade as…
www.thesun.co.uk
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,653
Evo1883 said:
Did anybody actually care a referendum was called though ? As everybody expected a remain win .

This is the break up of the union , its our constitution , 400 years .

Not some trading bloc agreement

Has to be concrete for Westminster to allow it to happen, and with less votes than pro independence parties , why would Westminster allow it...they wont
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They allowed Brexit. That's what happens with a system that elects individuals rather than freaks in %ages. Want different, change the system.

And if you think the %age means independence isn't favoured, let them have the referendum.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,654
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,655
Evo1883 said:
I just read something on twitter that was quite staggering really .

Unionist votes in Scotland were split so much so between Labour, lib and tory , that had they been centralised to 1 party in every region the SNP would have won less than 15 seats .
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But that's how FPP works. Thatcher won a term on just 32% of the popular vote.
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,656
clint van damme said:
But that's just made up, this isn't:

Boris Johnson did write that “blue collar” men are likely to be drunk, criminal, aimless, feckless and hopeless - Full Fact

In a 1995 Spectator article, Boris Johnson wrote that ”blue collar” men are likely to be drunk, criminal, aimless, feckless and hopeless.
fullfact.org

but he's got a posh voice and can throw out a bit of Latin so its OK!
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And so it goes on. Rather than acknowledge the failings of a party, blame those failings on the charisma of just one man in power.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 8, 2021
  • #2,657
Philosorapter said:
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The party that ruined that region from top to bottom gets in because they aren't Labour
 

Skybluefaz

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #2,658
Sadiq Khan is London mayor for a second term
 
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PVA

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #2,659
dubed said:
And so it goes on. Rather than acknowledge the failings of a party, blame those failings on the charisma of just one man in power.
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Once again you spectacularly miss the point.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • May 9, 2021
  • #2,660
PVA said:
Once again you spectacularly miss the point.
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The truth is too woke.
 
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