Evo1883
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And that's fair enough that's what you think.
And that's fair enough that's what you think.Oh I understand it perfectly I just think it's bollocks
ThisListen I'm the thick one , but I work with the very people Labour have lost , in what you would call "the dead end jobs " people talk about politics and il tell you for the final time .... people really do not like Labour, some people that always voted Labour genuinely hate them .
Something has got to change otherwise they are never getting back in power
I’m not surprised.
It is kind of ironic that well educated university middle class types on this forum can't see why people don't like Labour anymore .
Ironic indeed
Hey don't you dare forget the abortion that was Windrush.Yes we've had general consensus on
People don't really care about policies or manifesto commitments
Labour don't 'seem like they like' working people, the Tories do
The way a politician comes across matters more than their record or ideology
So it just boils down to a personality contest so the party offering policies people want is getting trounced by one that takes police off the streets, gives tax breaks and contracts to its mates and that let 130,000 people die in the pandemic. Oh, and that is letting people go bankrupt over flammable cladding that should never have been permitted in the first place.
I'm happy to get called angry for being angry that things like this are happening and people seem to be rejoicing at it because of culture war bullshit
Just answer the question and we'll be done. It's that simple.
Once again you've resorted to 'but Labour'.
Let's try one last time.
Without mentioning the word Labour, what is so appealing about the Tories?
Khalid knows , Labour needs more khalids
Hey don't you dare forget the abortion that was Windrush.
I guess they were a bit luckier today that they managed to put that tower block fire out in orderly time and fashion.
It will be something unconsidered that comes along and should do for them. But it won't.
I agree , although il be honest ..I phone in the morning and get an appointment that day at our doctorsI agree with what he says apart from one paragraph, I can't understand why people think the tories are more likely to deliver this than Labour:
' They want an NHS that works and doesn’t leave them waiting months for an operation or weeks for an appointment with their GP. They want investment in infrastructure, and in basic transport such as cleaner and greener buses '
it's madness to think the NHS is safer in tory hands.
I agree with what he says apart from one paragraph, I can't understand why people think the tories are more likely to deliver this than Labour:
' They want an NHS that works and doesn’t leave them waiting months for an operation or weeks for an appointment with their GP. They want investment in infrastructure, and in basic transport such as cleaner and greener buses '
it's madness to think the NHS is safer in tory hands.
Health delivery has changed beyond recognition from seventies eighties onwards.
Local oversight done by regional /watchdog committee /quango went.
Mamagement tiers increased.
over powerful ceo's riding roughshod over whistle blowers, covering tracks/hushing poor outcomes from surgery by inadequate surgeons, midwifery scandals covered up etc.
I agree , although il be honest ..I phone in the morning and get an appointment that day at our doctors
What do people think of Andy Burnham?
Would you rather somebody like Andy be Labour leader ?
Hes only going to pre
He would have been my choice to succeed Corbyn. I honestly believe he's the closest there is to a unifying figure in the party .
I’d go for it to be honest, but would forcing Starmer out right now be useful? Unless he goes completely entrenched of course.What do people think of Andy Burnham?
Would you rather somebody like Andy be Labour leader ?
I’d go for it to be honest.
And that's fair enough that's what you think.
Hey don't you dare forget the abortion that was Windrush.
I guess they were a bit luckier today that they managed to put that tower block fire out in orderly time and fashion.
It will be something unconsidered that comes along and should do for them. But it won't.
He's a dead man walking ...I’d go for it to be honest, but would forcing Starmer out right now be useful? Unless he goes completely entrenched of course.
I must say I didnt read the thread, and could only see the 2019 tweet.And what does it say? That the pay rise doesn’t matter as it’s not Labour so it’s ok?? Ffs
I would like to know what people find so personable and endearing about:
Gove
Hancock
Williamson
Raab
Jenrick
Patel
Schapps
Besides Johnson these are the people you see on TV the most, conducting conferences and so on. They all come across as either incoherent or clearly rehearsed and most on here even among Tories find them pretty odious. So what turns people on about them?
They're not Labour.
Out of interest when you all didn't vote Labour because of Corbyn did you vote Conservative? If so what was it that attracted your vote? And now that Corbyn is gone has your vote returned to Labour?
Absolutely agree people can do what they want. However the question has been repeatedly asked in recent weeks what it is about the Conservatives that makes people vote for them and so far the answers have been lots of reasons to not vote Labour and nothing about why the Conservatives appeal.
I must say I didnt read the thread, and could only see the 2019 tweet.
I take it back, every I know who works in the NHS hate Matt Hancock and the tories, and feel let down by the government. God knows who they polled.
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Another thing wrong with Labour voters these days, they think people owe them an explanation of why they voted a certain way. No one owes you anything.
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I've no problem with this but what's baffling is many of those reasons given for not voting Labour apply just as much, if not more so, to the Tories.
Woke mean 'alert to injustice in society, especially racism. Really depressing how it is now being used as a term of abuse.I'm not sure what woke even is but I dont use derogatory racist or misogynistic terms and have no desire to.
Am I woke?
Well. I’ve just voted green in the local election and for the police commissioner or whatever title they give them sounds like a wank position and a job everyone forgets about the moment that the voting slip in the box so I drew a spunking cock on it instead of voting so you’re not even remotely close.
Dammit.Dunno how to break it to you but the Tory guy going for it was called Cockenballs.
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