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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,276
One of Mordaunts backers has just publicly switched to Sunak. Looks like the writing is on the wall.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,277
Be great if the rump of racist party members resigned en masse. Fancy messing things up like they did after Johnson was forced to quit. Absolute disgrace to select Liz truss
 

bezzer

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,278
Mordaunt withdraws from leadership contest. Rishi to become PM.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,279
wingy said:
Mervyn King's comments picking up a bit of traction.
Tax increases for the minions.
There's not enough to get it from the rich.
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Hmm

 
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David O'Day

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,280

brilliant
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,281
David O'Day said:

brilliant
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Calling him 'boss', Christ
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,282
Sunak is a great PM for Labour.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,283
Sick Boy said:
Sunak is a great PM for Labour.
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How are Labour going to position themselves against him? Emily Thornberry going around talking about grandchildren 'paying off' the national debt this morning apparently.
 

David O'Day

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,284
Sick Boy said:
Sunak is a great PM for Labour.
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yep, a thin skinned austerity monster who is going hike taxes and slash spending in a cost of living crisis
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,285
Somebody has got to pay for his furlough scheme.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,286
David O'Day said:
yep, a thin skinned austerity monster who is going hike taxes and slash spending in a cost of living crisis
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Yeah he's very thin skinned. Does not take well to questioning and there's a lot of attack lines for Labour to use against him
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,287
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Somebody has got to pay for his furlough scheme.
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It's already been paid for
 

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,288
On Thursday, I went to the gym and Liz Truss was PM. By the time I finished, we had no PM.

Today, I went to the gym and we had no PM. By the time I finished, Rishi Sunak is the new PM.

Just as a heads up, I'm planning on going to the gym again on Wednesday and Thursday so get betting on Rishi out on Wednesday lunchtime and a new PMM in on Thursday lunchtime.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,289
David O'Day said:
yep, a thin skinned austerity monster who is going hike taxes and slash spending in a cost of living crisis
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Give him a chance . Agree though he does appear thin skinned which isnt an ideal trait to have as PM !

There are no doubt some tough calls ahead. I just hope they’re made in as fair a way as possible and that he makes decisions in the countrys best interests, not to please some members of the Tory party

Although they’ve got to try to placate the markets after the Truss/Kwarteng shitshow hopefully he can somehow buy some goodwill/flexibility by being seen as a more sensible, credible PM. Bond yields have dropped significantly since Truss left which suggests there might be some leeway

Ultimately I’m just hoping for a period of stability as the last 12 months have been an absolute shambles.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,290
CCFCSteve said:
There are no doubt some tough calls ahead. I just hope they’re made in as fair a way as possible and that he makes decisions in the countrys best interests, not to please some members of the Tory party
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Given that he told a group of Tory members that he wanted to take money from deprived areas and divert it to their well off rural constituencies I wouldn’t hold your breath on that!
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,291
PVA said:
Given that he told a group of Tory members that he wanted to take money from deprived areas and divert it to their well off rural constituencies I wouldn’t hold your breath on that!
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Yeah, I remember seeing that. As NW also mentioned he made some comments at the end of last leadership battle trying to get members on board, which I hope were out of desperation, rather than true beliefs. Soon find out I guess
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,292
CCFCSteve said:
There are no doubt some tough calls ahead. I just hope they’re made in as fair a way as possible and that he makes decisions in the countrys best interests, not to please some members of the Tory party
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Ha!
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,293
The Matt Hancock moment.

Brings a tear to my eye.

https://giphy.com/LmHTtgR0Rk4xCjRLe6
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,294
Deleted member 5849 said:
Ha!
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You know me, ever the optimist
 

AOM

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,295
David O'Day said:

brilliant
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duffer

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,296
Deleted member 5849 said:
He's probably right. I could get behind it as long as we used it to spend on the minions too... but I'm not holding out much hope for that. Looking forward to more 'efficiency savings'.
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I detest the deliberate misuse of that phrase.

Efficiency, put simply, is input compared to output.

If you reduce inputs and keep the same outputs, then you're increasing efficiency.

If you reduce inputs and the outputs also reduce (like the "efficiencies" in the NHS, Police etc. etc.) then you're just cutting. Let's call it what it is, eh.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,297
Have we got another robot in charge?!


 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,298
duffer said:
I detest the deliberate misuse of that phrase.

Efficiency, put simply, is input compared to output.

If you reduce inputs and keep the same outputs, then you're increasing efficiency.

If you reduce inputs and the outputs also reduce (like the "efficiencies" in the NHS, Police etc. etc.) then you're just cutting. Let's call it what it is, eh.
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Sort of agree but actually you need to think about outcomes, especially in things like the NHS, rather than outputs. It's not just about how much you do but whether you are doing the right things. But that takes some forward and joined up thinking which is something the Tories don't do.
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,299
Philosorapter said:
The Matt Hancock moment.

Brings a tear to my eye.

https://giphy.com/LmHTtgR0Rk4xCjRLe6
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,300
I have been told that this is Britain’s ‘Obama moment’
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,301
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I have been told that this is Britain’s ‘Obama moment’
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Alan Sugar next then?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,302
Deleted member 5849 said:
Alan Sugar next then?
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I was thinking Theo Paphitis
 

duffer

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,303
Deleted member 9744 said:
Sort of agree but actually you need to think about outcomes, especially in things like the NHS, rather than outputs. It's not just about how much you do but whether you are doing the right things. But that takes some forward and joined up thinking which is something the Tories don't do.
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Take your point, and I think we're coming from the same place, but an "efficiency" that results in worse outcomes in terms of obvious metrics like waiting lists and delays in A&E can't genuinely be framed as an efficiency. It's a cut.

When Tories talk about efficiencies they're usually really talking about cuts, imho.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,304
duffer said:
I detest the deliberate misuse of that phrase.

Efficiency, put simply, is input compared to output.

If you reduce inputs and keep the same outputs, then you're increasing efficiency.

If you reduce inputs and the outputs also reduce (like the "efficiencies" in the NHS, Police etc. etc.) then you're just cutting. Let's call it what it is, eh.
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Great point
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,305
Deleted member 5849 said:
Alan Sugar next then?
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More like Simon Jordan.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,306
So the good news 1) Boris’ bullshit got him nowhere for a change. 2) it’s a big moment and proud moment in UK history regardless of political leaning our first PM of colour should be something to celebrate. 3) if we’re going to be stuck with a Tory government for another two years the best outcome for the country was Sunak, the Tories can’t do any better than him but as we’ve seen over the past 4 years they can certainly do a lot worse. 4) Sunak is at least capable of pretending to be a grown up.

The bad news. Doesn’t look like we’re getting a GE anytime soon. However he’s got a lot to do to unify his party before he can even think about unifying the country and that’s going to be a tall ask. I wouldn’t rule out some of the nutters leaving the Tories and doing something really stupid like join the reform party sitting on the opposition benches, happened before with UKIP. I don’t think 2 years will be enough to sort his party out.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,307
So the tories chose resounding defeat over crashing wipeout
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,308
David O'Day said:
So the tories chose resounding defeat over crashing wipeout
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2 years is a long time in politics. Denying the country an election despite changing PM not once but twice, who knows how it goes if he portrays economic credibility
 
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rob9872

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,309
Brighton Sky Blue said:
2 years is a long time in politics. Denying the country an election despite changing PM not once but twice, who knows how it goes if he portrays economic credibility
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On my ballot paper I had to vote for a party not a person. Perhaps yours was different? Or is that only when Brown takes over from Blair and you like the result?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 24, 2022
  • #23,310
rob9872 said:
On my ballot paper I had to vote for a party not a person. Perhaps yours was different? Or is that only when Brown takes over from Blair and you like the result?
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You vote for a person

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
 
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