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shmmeee

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  • Oct 7, 2022
  • #22,156
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JAM See

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  • Oct 7, 2022
  • #22,157
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Frostie said:
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I'm sorry, but I hate this retconning of the likes of Kenneth Clarke as somehow a better Tory.

He served in the cabinet under Thatcher.

He was happy to serve under Thatcher.

Let that sink in.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 7, 2022
  • #22,158
JAM See said:
I'm sorry, but I hate this retconning of the likes of Kenneth Clarke as somehow a better Tory.

He served in the cabinet under Thatcher.

He was happy to serve under Thatcher.

Let that sink in.
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He was a better class of Tory. He may have been a c**t but he’s a c**t who could string a sentence together to explain his beliefs and at least believed in the principles of Parliament.
 

JAM See

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  • Oct 7, 2022
  • #22,159
shmmeee said:
He was a better class of Tory. He may have been a c**t but he’s a c**t who could string a sentence together to explain his beliefs and at least believed in the principles of Parliament.
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I'm generally aligned with your worldview @shmmeee ... but seriously, "a better class of Tory"?

How low can you go?
Death row
What a worker know
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 7, 2022
  • #22,160
JAM See said:
I'm generally aligned with your worldview @shmmeee ... but seriously, "a better class of Tory"?

How low can you go?
Death row
What a worker know
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I despise everything Thatcher stood for, but even she had some qualities.

Now, we've got a warmed up version of Thatcherism but delivered by people who you wouldn't be surprised to see eating crayons.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 7, 2022
  • #22,161
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I despise everything Thatcher stood for, but even she had some qualities.

Now, we've got a warmed up version of Thatcherism but delivered by people who you wouldn't be surprised to see eating crayons.
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It’s shocking how awful the government is. Even more shocking is that the only people they have to replace them are equally if not even more awful. The Tories need wiping out at the next GE if only so they can start from a clean sheet. There’s not one that you would trust to babysit your children.
 

JAM See

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  • Oct 7, 2022
  • #22,162
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I despise everything Thatcher stood for, but even she had some qualities.

Now, we've got a warmed up version of Thatcherism but delivered by people who you wouldn't be surprised to see eating crayons.
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More retconning.

What qualities?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,163
JAM See said:
More retconning.

What qualities?
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She was a strong leader. Such a shame that personality was allayed to the most godawful snobbish economic policy.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,164
shmmeee said:
He was a better class of Tory. He may have been a c**t but he’s a c**t who could string a sentence together to explain his beliefs and at least believed in the principles of Parliament.
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Its like a deep fake, when they take the face of someone from Coventry Labour and graft it on to a Tory.

It leaves people wondering if its great special effects or just people chasing power at everyone's else expense.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,165
Anyway, 4th day in ICU and I am so bored.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,166
Philosorapter said:
Anyway, 4th day in ICU and I am so bored.
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What have I missed
 

Otis

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,167
Sky Blue Pete said:
What have I missed
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He had a bed bath on Tuesday and yesterday was toad in the hole and jam roly poly and custard
 
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clint van damme

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,168
Philosorapter said:
Anyway, 4th day in ICU and I am so bored.
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What's happened?
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,169
clint van damme said:
What's happened?
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Things go up, things go down.

Lungs this time.

Still got two!

They reckon they've fixed me this time rather than just doing running repairs.

Going to get to respiratory today if there's a bed free and then out in a day or two.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,170
Philosorapter said:
Things go up, things go down.

Lungs this time.

Still got two!

They reckon they've fixed me this time rather than just doing running repairs.

Going to get to respiratory today if there's a bed free and then out in a day or two.
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Good luck with it. Wish you a speedy recoveey
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,171
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
She was a strong leader. Such a shame that personality was allayed to the most godawful snobbish economic policy.
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Actually had a science education as well. Say what you like about Thatcher and her mental economic beliefs, she wouldn’t fall for the conspiracy nut nonsense that fills the current Tory Party.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,172
Cheers Shmmeee, appreciated.

"Thatcher did more for Women's Rights than Labour ever has."

Discuss...
 

shmmeee

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,173
Philosorapter said:
Cheers Shmmeee, appreciated.

"Thatcher did more for Women's Rights than Labour ever has."

Discuss...
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Sure Start did more for feminism than any number of women PMs.

Girlboss liberal feminism is a con perpetuated by the patriarchy to ensure female liberation happens on men’s terms. Discuss.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,174
shmmeee said:
Sure Start did more for feminism than any number of women PMs.

Girlboss liberal feminism is a con perpetuated by the patriarchy to ensure female liberation happens on men’s terms. Discuss.
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I mean real change to society Shmmeee. Not knocking sure start, it is/was a nobel effort but that is superficial to what Thatcher achieved with Women's Rights.
 

JAM See

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,175
Philosorapter said:
Cheers Shmmeee, appreciated.

"Thatcher did more for Women's Rights than Labour ever has."

Discuss...
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Abortion Act 1967 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org
 

clint van damme

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,176
Philosorapter said:
Things go up, things go down.

Lungs this time.

Still got two!

They reckon they've fixed me this time rather than just doing running repairs.

Going to get to respiratory today if there's a bed free and then out in a day or two.
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All the best, take it easy.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,177
JAM See said:

Abortion Act 1967 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org
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Don't get me wrong Jam See, the tories of the 80' put through some terrible stuff. For example section 28 etc.

Thatcher though got the equality issue between the sexes and freed up half the nation literally from servitude.
 

Otis

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,178
Best of luck, Philosoraptor
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,179
Otis said:
Best of luck, Philosoraptor
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Cheers, over the worse now. Just getting myself off the tinned oxygen.
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,180
Philosorapter said:
Cheers, over the worse now. Just getting myself off the tinned oxygen.
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Ohh, I would love some if you have any going spare.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,181
Otis said:
Ohh, I would love some if you have any going spare.
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Leaves you on a lovely high.
 
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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,182
shmmeee said:
Actually had a science education as well. Say what you like about Thatcher and her mental economic beliefs, she wouldn’t fall for the conspiracy nut nonsense that fills the current Tory Party.
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Just feel obliged to point out that not having a science education doesn't make you a conspiracy theorist any more than having one - being a nutter makes you a conspiracy theorist!
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,183
Not strictly politics but after reading got to put it somewhere.
Makes you want to weep .
Slightly late with the story.

Young woman who survived Brussels terror attack 'euthanised' after severe PTSD

Shanti De Corte, 23, survived an ISIS terror attack in 2016 but was never able to recover from the trauma of the incident, and eventually sought to euthanise herself through legal means in Belgium.
metro.co.uk
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,184
Philosorapter said:
Things go up, things go down.

Lungs this time.

Still got two!

They reckon they've fixed me this time rather than just doing running repairs.

Going to get to respiratory today if there's a bed free and then out in a day or two.
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Get well soon.

Keep us updated on your progress, preferably with some sort of graph.
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,185
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Get well soon.

Keep us updated of your progress, preferably with some of graph.
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But hopefully not this one.

 
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Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,186
Werid thing is I am going to need a few months before I become fighting fit again so I might as well start testing out home advantage on Elo and Glicko-2 and posts the results for all to see.

I have the correct settings

All the other stuff will be up to date hopefully by next weekend.

Got a busy few weeks ahead of myself when I get back.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,187
Philosorapter said:
Things go up, things go down.

Lungs this time.

Still got two!

They reckon they've fixed me this time rather than just doing running repairs.

Going to get to respiratory today if there's a bed free and then out in a day or two.
Click to expand...
All the best to you

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,188
wingy said:
Not strictly politics but after reading got to put it somewhere.
Makes you want to weep .
Slightly late with the story.

Young woman who survived Brussels terror attack 'euthanised' after severe PTSD

Shanti De Corte, 23, survived an ISIS terror attack in 2016 but was never able to recover from the trauma of the incident, and eventually sought to euthanise herself through legal means in Belgium.
metro.co.uk
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How tragic, just unimaginable really

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 8, 2022
  • #22,189
Philosorapter said:
Werid thing is I am going to need a few months before I become fighting fit again so I might as well start testing out home advantage on Elo and Glicko-2 and posts the results for all to see.

I have the correct settings

All the other stuff will be up to date hopefully by next weekend.

Got a busy few weeks ahead of myself when I get back.
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Maybe a chess comeback afterwards?
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2022
  • #22,190
wingy said:
Not strictly politics but after reading got to put it somewhere.
Makes you want to weep .
Slightly late with the story.

Young woman who survived Brussels terror attack 'euthanised' after severe PTSD

Shanti De Corte, 23, survived an ISIS terror attack in 2016 but was never able to recover from the trauma of the incident, and eventually sought to euthanise herself through legal means in Belgium.
metro.co.uk
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Christ that's depressing. Not sure I agree with that tbh, doesn't feel right to me. Others may feel differently.

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