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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #18,516
She’s now reverting back to saying she’s a conservative because children at her school were left behind. Small point. The Conservatives were in power for the entirety of her school education.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #18,517
clint van damme said:
I can think of someone else who told that lie
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Who?
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #18,518
Otis said:
Liz Truss is a repetitive robot
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In your world Otis, no one could ever come close to Ed Davey.
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #18,519
Truss saying she became a Conservative because her school was shit under the Tories.



 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #18,520
Thanks to Tugendhat for making Sneer seem like a vindaloo guzzling renegade
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #18,521
Where would Kemi's vote go tomorrow when she's only 15
behind Truss.
If her followers are of the same ilk I wouldn't expect it.
Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #18,522
PVA said:
Truss saying she became a Conservative because her school was shit under the Tories.



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Saying that I want her birth certificate checked, she’s never only 46 !
 
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Otis

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #18,523
SIR ERNIE said:
In your world Otis, no one could ever come close to Ed Davey.
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Ha. You have picked up on a Grendel quip I see.

I don't support the Lib Dems. I never have.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #18,524
SIR ERNIE said:
In your world Otis, no one could ever come close to Ed Davey.
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At yoga perhaps
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #18,525
CCFCSteve said:
Saying that I want her birth certificate checked, she’s never only 46 !
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She’s got some full on grandma features.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #18,526
She turned the Thatcher back up to 11 at the start of her closing statement but finished on about a 5.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #18,527
skybluetony176 said:
She’s got some full on grandma features.
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Don’t tell me there’s nudes of her circulating on whats app ?!
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #18,528
Got a feeling Mordaunts chances of making the final 2 are slipping away.
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #18,529
Truss is just so, so bad.

Threatening to call Putin out. Lavrov made her look an absolute fool.
 
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Otis

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #18,530
CCFCSteve said:
Don’t tell me there’s nudes of her circulating on whats app ?!
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You just know there will be don't you.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #18,531
Genuinely do not get at all where Labour is going with this nonsense? Imagine doubling down on such a dangerous myth (spending must be funded by tax) which will ultimately be a dead end street come the election


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shmmeee

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #18,532

Fucking hell she’s like Boris in a dress.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #18,533
shmmeee said:

Fucking hell she’s like Boris in a dress.
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I am wondering about my earlier comments about her, though I suppose all of the candidates are trying to hit the Tory sweet spot and part of that is blaming fundamentally opposed statements on the EU.
 
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stupot07

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #18,534
Chickens


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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #18,535
stupot07 said:
Chickens


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What's Sunak bothered about? He's been doing quite well! Or is it quit while you're ahead?
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #18,536
Deleted member 5849 said:
What's Sunak bothered about? He's been doing quite well! Or is it quit while you're ahead?
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Probably just can't be bothered - its down to 4 and he's in the last 2 whatever happens
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #18,537
Deleted member 5849 said:
What's Sunak bothered about? He's been doing quite well! Or is it quit while you're ahead?
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They might be doing it for the perceived good of the party. You can’t have daily bashing of other people in cabinet/government and that’s how they’re set up. I’d prefer an Andrew Neill type interview with each of them, giving each of them a fair crack to get their message across

Theyre kind of irrelevant anyway as it’s not as if we can all vote (well, you might as member I guess )
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #18,538
Ps Citigroup have been pretty damning about Truss economic plans
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #18,539
CCFCSteve said:
They might be doing it for the perceived good of the party. You can’t have daily bashing of other people in cabinet/government and that’s how they’re set up. I’d prefer an Andrew Neill type interview with each of them, giving each of them a fair crack to get their message across

Theyre kind of irrelevant anyway as it’s not as if we can all vote (well, you might as member I guess )
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I'd be down for an in depth interview... although Truss's might get complaints to Ofcom for misrepresentation
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #18,540
Probably because the two debates so fa have been an absolute car crash for the Tories.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #18,541
fernandopartridge said:
Genuinely do not get at all where Labour is going with this nonsense? Imagine doubling down on such a dangerous myth (spending must be funded by tax) which will ultimately be a dead end street come the election


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They think they've found an 'in' with middle Englanders in appearing more financially responsible. Though I don't entirely blame them when so many people still believe George Osborne's lie over Labour causing the GFC
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #18,542
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They think they've found an 'in' with middle Englanders in appearing more financially responsible. Though I don't entirely blame them when so many people still believe George Osborne's lie over Labour causing the GFC
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I think it’s two things. One Labour’s biggest weakness with voters is still the idea they’ll spend too much. Two, it’s stoking the fires of the blue on blue fighting about tax cuts.

I get the want to rewrite the economic argument, but it’s nigh on impossible and at least getting people to see tax cuts as spending like they do direct government spending is a start.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #18,543
shmmeee said:
I think it’s two things. One Labour’s biggest weakness with voters is still the idea they’ll spend too much. Two, it’s stoking the fires of the blue on blue fighting about tax cuts.

I get the want to rewrite the economic argument, but it’s nigh on impossible and at least getting people to see tax cuts as spending like they do direct government spending is a start.
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Do you think it's the correct time to do that?

The message it sends to the public is: "Sorry, we can't do much about your abysmal public services nor can we do anything about the level of tax you pay as it all needs to be funded you know."
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #18,544
Sums it up quite nicely


 
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chiefdave

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #18,545
Hope we're building lots of houses as its seems the younger generation have realised the only reason they were struggling to get on their housing ladder was their Netflix subscription

 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #18,546
fernandopartridge said:
Do you think it's the correct time to do that?

The message it sends to the public is: "Sorry, we can't do much about your abysmal public services nor can we do anything about the level of tax you pay as it all needs to be funded you know."
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Honestly? I don’t think Labour gets elected on spending promises it’s first term.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #18,547
A good article on Truss’ school experience claims from a former pupil and Guardian hack

I grew up where Liz Truss did, attended the same school. She’s not telling you the truth | Martin Pengelly

What does it say about the foreign secretary that she is so prepared to misrepresent her education and denigrate those who helped her, asks Guardian US news editor Martin Pengelly?
www.theguardian.com
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #18,548
PVA said:
Sums it up quite nicely


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It’s doing Truss no favours whatsoever, she’s polling bottom for performance in pretty much every demographic you care to split the polling into. Sunak doesn’t need to bother. Mordaunt doesn’t seem to be able to get a word in and neither does Tugenhat.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #18,549
shmmeee said:
Honestly? I don’t think Labour gets elected on spending promises it’s first term.
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it might actually have to show some plans at some point - I’ve not seen one senior labour politician say they will reverse the NI hike as an example. They all oppose it but will all take it
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 18, 2022
  • #18,550
Grendel said:
it might actually have to show some plans at some point - I’ve not seen one senior labour politician say they will reverse the NI hike as an example. They all oppose it but will all take it
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Yeah of course they will, but like the school catch-up policy and the fuel bill policy it’ll be funded in the “raise taxes to pay for stuff” model, not Fernando’s MMT mode.
 
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