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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,961
Boris recons he’s staying on into the 2030’s.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,962
duffer said:
Relevance? It's a politics thread. The point isn't solely to highlight your personal success, lovely as I'm sure that is for you, it's also to discuss the flaw in the policy.

You'd say you've bettered yourself, but politely, as I see it you've not exactly pulled yourself out of the gutter by your bootstraps.

You were fortunate enough to obtain public housing and you've later taken full advantage of a right-to-buy at a substantial discount, which is fair enough.

You've also made a bit more than a 'few quid' out of it, again fair enough.

You're definitely personally better off, there's no argument there, but whether the policy makes the country as a whole better off is definitely debatable given the deliberate failure to replenish the public housing stock.

However it's pretty much the first time you've not accused someone of calling you 'immoral', which I can't see anyone has? That's what I'm 'on about'.

You're taking offence at something you're seeing which unless I've missed it literally isn't there. I could just as easily ask, what are you on about?
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You clearly have a problem with me NOT making more than a few quid out of it. You've also got an issue with me NOT pulling myself out of the gutter, as you'd like to think, yet you know nothing as to where I came from.
You seem quite angry about my situation.
What would you do with a 10m lottery win ?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,963
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
You clearly have a problem with me NOT making more than a few quid out of it. You've also got an issue with me NOT pulling myself out of the gutter, as you'd like to think, yet you know nothing as to where I came from.
You seem quite angry about my situation.
What would you do with a 10m lottery win ?
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hes just a jealous bitter man
 
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Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,964
stupot07 said:
Of course its true, and he was going to get a Tory donor to pay for it.


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The same Tory donor who paid for his flat refurb.
The fact that said same donor's companies have won £120 million worth of government contracts is pure coincidence I'm sure.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,965
Zahawi fighting hard on the important issues

Nadhim Zahawi battles exam board ‘vandals’ who ditched Larkin poems in name of diversity (telegraph.co.uk)
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,966
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
You clearly have a problem with me NOT making more than a few quid out of it. You've also got an issue with me NOT pulling myself out of the gutter, as you'd like to think, yet you know nothing as to where I came from.
You seem quite angry about my situation.
What would you do with a 10m lottery win ?
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Eh? Isn't he saying you can blame the policy, but not blame the individual for taking advantage of the policy?
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,967
just seen Lammys interview on Sky this morning, what an absolute wanker,
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,968
clint van damme said:
just seen Lammys interview on Sky this morning, what an absolute wanker,
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On bbc he was boasting he will be foreign secretary in 2 years.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,969
Grendel said:
On bbc he was boasting he will be foreign secretary in 2 years.
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him or Truss, great to know we'll be in safe hands on the international stage.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,970
clint van damme said:
him or Truss, great to know we'll be in safe hands on the international stage.
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Layla Moran anyone

People

Find out more about our elected representatives and the Liberal Democrats in your area.
www.libdems.org.uk
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,971
Grendel said:
Layla Moran anyone

People

Find out more about our elected representatives and the Liberal Democrats in your area.
www.libdems.org.uk
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just below her on that page is Munira Wilson, she called for the army to be brought in to break up the strikes. These people fucking hate the working class.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,972
clint van damme said:
just below her on that page is Munira Wilson, she called for the army to be brought in to break up the strikes. These people fucking hate the working class.
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I doubt anyone who voted for these idiots know a single policy - they are just charlatans who want power and will do anything to get it. Lammy said it wasn’t a crushing defeat for labour it Tiverton - they lost their deposit!
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,973
Imagine being as stupid as to think that the liberal democrats are part of some sort of 'progressive' alliance


Get to fucking fuck
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,974
Grendel said:
I doubt anyone who voted for these idiots know a single policy - they are just charlatans who want power and will do anything to get it. Lammy said it wasn’t a crushing defeat for labour it Tiverton - they lost their deposit!
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I agree with him it was nothing to do with labour it was all lib dem and conservative
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,975
Sky Blue Pete said:
I agree with him it was nothing to do with labour it was all lib dem and conservative
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labour phoned it in tiverton and the lib dems did so in wakefield
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,976
You just get the impression that it might be in the government’s interests to start intervening in this strike before it escalates.


The government and it’s useful right wing idiots in the media have been trying and largely failing to stoke up a phoney culture war for a good 6 years now. A class war however? The ultimate irony being that the culture war is funded by wealthy elites like Banks, Tice, oligarchs etc to promote militant attitudes in the working classes. Might just be about to backfire.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,977
Sky Blue Pete said:
I agree with him it was nothing to do with labour it was all lib dem and conservative
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So Labour admit they can’t win an election and it’s a Starmer Davey alliance

Good luck with that
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,978
Grendel said:
So Labour admit they can’t win an election and it’s a Starmer Davey alliance

Good luck with that
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Bit of a stretch to assume that from some by elections
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,979
skybluetony176 said:
You just get the impression that it might be in the government’s interests to start intervening in this strike before it escalates.


The government and it’s useful right wing idiots in the media have been trying and largely failing to stoke up a phoney culture war for a good 6 years now. A class war however? The ultimate irony being that the culture war is funded by wealthy elites like Banks, Tice, oligarchs etc to promote militant attitudes in the working classes. Might just be about to backfire.
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He’s spoken very well every time he’s done so. Just need the other union leaders to step up their game and co-ordinate better
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,980
Grendel said:
So Labour admit they can’t win an election and it’s a Starmer Davey alliance

Good luck with that
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I thought by elections were totally irrelevant?

Make your mind up.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,981
Grendel said:
So Labour admit they can’t win an election and it’s a Starmer Davey alliance

Good luck with that
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Course not. You focus your efforts on areas and seats that will have the most impact
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,982

Why's he going on about Tiverton as if Labour won that seat?
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,983
Are people actually claiming Tiverton was a bad result for Labour?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,984
David O'Day said:
Are people actually claiming Tiverton was a bad result for Labour?
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Grendel and the interviewer of lammy
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,985
David O'Day said:
Are people actually claiming Tiverton was a bad result for Labour?
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It's a neutral result at best.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,986
Trying to conflate BA staff who actually had their pay cut with everybody else struggling with the cost of living, an utter wanker of a man

 

Grendel

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,987
Sky Blue Pete said:
Course not. You focus your efforts on areas and seats that will have the most impact
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Not ones where you were the second party and then lost their deposit ok
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,988
fernandopartridge said:
Trying to conflate BA staff who actually had their pay cut with everybody else struggling with the cost of living, an utter wanker of a man

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he’s an utter tosser
 

stupot07

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,989
Sky Blue Pete said:
Course not. You focus your efforts on areas and seats that will have the most impact
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You'd think being a marketing guru at Jaguar/Land Rover, he'd know wasting all your effort and marketing budget on a customer base who is unlikely to buy one of the your cars is not clever.

The same goes with Politics, always has done. Even in the general election all parties will focus more effort on a winnable seats than one thats needs a large swing and not likely to vote for you.

They had likely done a bit of canvassing and focus groups in the area and got the sense people were leaving towards the Lib dems, and so concentrated on getting the red wall back.

Its not like the Tories didn't have a pact with the brexit party who pulled their candidates.

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Grendel

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,990
stupot07 said:
You'd think being a marketing guru at Jaguar/Land Rover, he'd know wasting all your effort and marketing budget on a customer base who is unlikely to buy one of the your cars is not clever.

The same goes with Politics, always has done. Even in the general election all parties will focus more effort on a winnable seats than one thats needs a large swing and not likely to vote for you.

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This was a by election and labour literally were non existent despite being the second party — they waived a white flag - resources? There were two elections
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,991
fernandopartridge said:
Imagine being as stupid as to think that the liberal democrats are part of some sort of 'progressive' alliance


Get to fucking fuck
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When anything goes wrong the first thing they say is call the army in maybe the soldiers don’t want to do it or break the strike.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,992
Frostie said:
The same Tory donor who paid for his flat refurb.
The fact that said same donor's companies have won £120 million worth of government contracts is pure coincidence I'm sure.
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How can you build a treehouse for that much cash you could build a full house for less.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,993
Terry Gibson's perm said:
How can you build a treehouse for that much cash you could build a full house for less.
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The tree house would probably cost 10k or something.

The rest of the money goes... Well I wonder.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,994
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 26, 2022
  • #15,995
Sky Blue Pete said:
Grendel and the interviewer of lammy
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Oh Grenners, that weird old soak

Block him
 
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