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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,156
JAM See said:
What's really odd is that this was an open goal for the Tories.

Either
Throw Paterson to the wolves and claim they are the party of law and order and fairness, move on and let it be forgotten in a week or so.

Or
Change the rules to allow him to evade a 30 day suspension (It's not exactly Jonathon Aitken levels of naughty is it)? and end up looking like a tribe of shysters.

Smacks of hubris.
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They have nothing to worry about. We are selfish narcissistic nation
 

oakey

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,157
Look closely and you will see the Mail say "MPs" so they tar them all with the same brush. Mail and the Telegraph do this a lot. If they are criticising they say "MPs" or "Parliament" instead of "Tories" or "the government".
This reinforces the public perception that, "They're all the same".
This is a calculated undermining of our democratic processes.
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,158
Interest rates going up today.....probably just a warning shot of 0.25% for now....
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,159

But all the public care about is the latest John Lewis ad controversy.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,160
Frostie said:

But all the public care about is the latest John Lewis ad controversy.
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Fucking hell.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,161
I guess the question now is does a typical hr system of governance apply to an institution like the commons?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,162
So they’ve u-turned already then
 
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JAM See

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,163
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Interest rates going up today.....probably just a warning shot of 0.25% for now....
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False alarm. No change.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,164
Sick Boy said:
So they’ve u-turned already then
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If it gets overturned it'll be the right decision but it just highlights how this government is totally corrupt and self-serving.

If they genuinely believed changing these rules was the right thing to do they'd have pressed on. It shows the only reason they put this forward was to save one of their own and make it so others in the future could get away with it.

How can people not yet have worked out that the Tories are completely untrustworthy?
 
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SomersetSB

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  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,165
The bloke needs to go I’m afraid, if I’m ever in court I’ll get my mates to stop the court and change the rules to suit.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,166
Alexa, show me Boris Johnson's premiership in gif form


 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,167
Sick Boy said:
So they’ve u-turned already then
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All sorted, nothing to see here. Maybe the express knew it was a non story, hence them avoiding putting it on front page
 
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oakey

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  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,168
Now Owen Paterson MP has resigned.

Owen Paterson quits as MP over lobbying row 'nightmare'

The Tory MP is at the centre of a bitter row after he was found to have made "egregious" rule breaches.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,169
oakey said:
Now Owen Paterson MP has resigned.
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Presumably not as a matter of principle.
 
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oakey

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  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,170
skybluetony176 said:
Presumably not as a matter of principle.
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Wonder how long they'll wait until giving him a seat in the House of Lords?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,171
Must be a nightmare being a Conservative supporter. You put all that effort into defending the indefensible time and time again only for them to u-turn and make you look an idiot.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,172
chiefdave said:
Must be a nightmare being a Conservative supporter. You put all that effort into defending the indefensible time and time again only for them to u-turn and make you look an idiot.
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That’s their secret: they always look like idiots.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,173
oakey said:
Now Owen Paterson MP has resigned.

Owen Paterson quits as MP over lobbying row 'nightmare'

The Tory MP is at the centre of a bitter row after he was found to have made "egregious" rule breaches.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Wonder what will happen to his side gigs now he’s lost his influence.
 

Marty

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  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,174
Funny how nobody has mentioned Claudia Webbe.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,175
Marty said:
Funny how nobody has mentioned Claudia Webbe.
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No one was trying to excuse her behaviour that’s why.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,176
Marty said:
Funny how nobody has mentioned Claudia Webbe.
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There's a lot of things don't get mentioned on here when it suits.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,177
Ian1779 said:
Wonder what will happen to his side gigs now he’s lost his influence.
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Not often I agree with Starmer but he was bang on the money today.
As for Patterson, what Vile, toady, corrupt c**t he is.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,178
clint van damme said:
There's a lot of things don't get mentioned on here when it suits.
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It did get posted, everyone agreed it was a disgusting thing to do and the thread moved on.
 
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Marty

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  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,179
Ian1779 said:
No one was trying to excuse her behaviour that’s why.
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swept under the carpet more like. Silence is violence iirc.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,180
Marty said:
swept under the carpet more like. Silence is violence iirc.
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Are you for real? Literally no one has swept it under the carpet at all… she’s been sentenced and expelled and there will probably be a trigger ballot activated (subject to appeal of course)

Stop looking for deflection with some shitty whataboutery that isn’t there.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,181
Caroline Lucas pulling no punches
What’s his latest investigation about? Is it the Caribbean holiday, the flat refurbished or something else?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,182
skybluetony176 said:
Caroline Lucas pulling no punches
What’s his latest investigation about? Is it the Caribbean holiday, the flat refurbished or something else?
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The flat refurbishment
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,183
Marty said:
swept under the carpet more like. Silence is violence iirc.
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Is she the one that labour immediately suspended by withdrawing the whip, then expelled from the party when she was found guilty and didn’t then retrospectively try to rewrite the rules to get her of the hook?

Yeah, exactly the same. No wait, opposite.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,184
Ian1779 said:
Are you for real? Literally no one has swept it under the carpet at all… she’s been sentenced and expelled and there will probably be a trigger ballot activated (subject to appeal of course)

Stop looking for deflection with some shitty whataboutery that isn’t there.
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We even spoke about how lucky we are n as she was the other main candidate for selection in Cov South
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,185
Marty said:
Funny how nobody has mentioned Claudia Webbe.
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Oh someone in particular mentioned her alright


 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,186
Marty said:
swept under the carpet more like. Silence is violence iirc.
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She's been prosecuted.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,187
Skybluefaz said:
She's been prosecuted.
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expelled from the party as well
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,188
David O'Day said:
expelled from the party as well
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#laboursleeze
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,189
Ian1779 said:
No one was trying to excuse her behaviour that’s why.
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Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell and Diane Abbott had character references read out in court didn’t they?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 4, 2021
  • #8,190
Skybluefaz said:
She's been prosecuted.
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As she’s a criminal which this person isn’t
 
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