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Ccfcisparks

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  • Feb 14, 2026
  • #61,111
Nick said:
Apologies, with that one I thought you meant I was disgusting.

I've literally said I don't agree with taxing in this thread? Even more so if women are literally unable to have a child.
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Thats fine, I didnt really make it clear.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 14, 2026
  • #61,112
rob9872 said:
To be fair Pete spent a couple of paragraphs on the last page explaining the difference between millions and billions for us.

I think we've all learnt something today.
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I had you all in the 60% who know how much more a billion is
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 14, 2026
  • #61,113
SBAndy said:
100%. It’s more the auxiliary cost of kids: a house with sufficient space, the fucking water bill going through the roof because of bath time (went from £18 per month pre-child to £75 per month now), more food, and childcare.

As much as I think he’s a horrible bastard, Orban in Hungary has thrown a massive curveball with his proposal that any woman who has 2 kids will be exempt from income tax for life (don’t think their tax rate is as high as ours; may be wrong).
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That’s an excellent policy
 

rob9872

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  • Feb 14, 2026
  • #61,114
Sky Blue Pete said:
I had you all in the 60% who know how much more a billion is
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I wouldn't put your last £1 on it after some of what I've read!
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 14, 2026
  • #61,115
rob9872 said:
I wouldn't put your last £1 on it after some of what I've read!
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Just you then
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 14, 2026
  • #61,116
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Sky Blue Pete said:
I had you all in the 60% who know how much more a billion is
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How does it work, there's a difference in American Million's isn't there,does that transfer to the billions?
 

chiefdave

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  • Feb 14, 2026
  • #61,117
Nick said:
It's naive to ask what is outrageous about telling girls the risks of having kids in their 40s as opposed to their 20s? Let's face it, it's nothing like the Handmaids Tale like made out.
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I think if you take that one comment in isolation it would be hard to be outraged about it. But doesn't this already happen? I don't know any women who aren't aware of their biological clock and the increased risks that come with having a baby later in life.

His quote also doesn't make any sense, "We need to also explain to young girls and women the biological reality of this crisis. Many women in Britain are having children much too late in life and they would prefer to have children much earlier on.".

If they want to have children earlier but can't then that is the issue you address. Obviously some barriers, fertility issues, are harder to remove than others but if he is correct to say women want to have kids earlier but aren't then telling them about the "biological reality" will have zero impact.

People are probably looking at this as part of an overall picture of the guy who is also talking about taxing women who don't have kids and making disparaging comments about "childless women".
 
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chiefdave

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  • Feb 14, 2026
  • #61,118
Seems to be a fair number of people on the right side of the political spectrum who believe women should be having more kids and having them earlier while also being against any support for parents.

We live in a world where for a lot of young people even if they are in a couple and both working its still a struggle. You're then saying either add in huge childcare costs or have one parent no longer work. How many young couples can take a huge reduction in income at the same time they have significant additional expenses?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 14, 2026
  • #61,119
chiefdave said:
Seems to be a fair number of people on the right side of the political spectrum who believe women should be having more kids and having them earlier while also being against any support for parents.

We live in a world where for a lot of young people even if they are in a couple and both working its still a struggle. You're then saying either add in huge childcare costs or have one parent no longer work. How many young couples can take a huge reduction in income at the same time they have significant additional expenses?
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Yep and that’s what needs challenging rather than going handmaids tale I think
 

Marty

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  • Feb 14, 2026
  • #61,120
SBAndy said:
100%. It’s more the auxiliary cost of kids: a house with sufficient space, the fucking water bill going through the roof because of bath time (went from £18 per month pre-child to £75 per month now), more food, and childcare.

As much as I think he’s a horrible bastard, Orban in Hungary has thrown a massive curveball with his proposal that any woman who has 2 kids will be exempt from income tax for life (don’t think their tax rate is as high as ours; may be wrong).
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Karol Nawrocki passed a similar thing in Poland, raises the threshold to start paying tax up to 140k PLN (about 30k GBP) per parent.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Feb 15, 2026
  • #61,121
Sky Blue Pete said:
I don’t think we comprehend just how much £4bn is

in seconds a million is 11 days
A billion???? 31 years

billion is a thousand millions

it’s more than selfish
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Here’s one for you Pete

Did you know you could have spent a £1m per day since Jesus was born (or 2030 years for non believers) and you still wouldn’t have spent a trillion !

Ps we’re about to £3trn in debt, USA £38trn
 
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tisza

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  • Feb 15, 2026
  • #61,122
SBAndy said:
100%. It’s more the auxiliary cost of kids: a house with sufficient space, the fucking water bill going through the roof because of bath time (went from £18 per month pre-child to £75 per month now), more food, and childcare.

As much as I think he’s a horrible bastard, Orban in Hungary has thrown a massive curveball with his proposal that any woman who has 2 kids will be exempt from income tax for life (don’t think their tax rate is as high as ours; may be wrong).
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we're at 15%. Also a lot of other subsidies for families having 2 or more kids - home improvement grants, subsidised home purchase loans, etc
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 15, 2026
  • #61,123
tisza said:
we're at 15%. Also a lot of other subsidies for families having 2 or more kids - home improvement grants, subsidised home purchase loans, etc
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Interesting!
 

tisza

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  • Feb 15, 2026
  • #61,124
wingy said:
Interesting!
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also to be clear it's only for EU nationals (not through choice but EU law). Generally those from 3rd countries(inc UK) wouldn't get anything
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 15, 2026
  • #61,125
CCFCSteve said:
Here’s one for you Pete

Did you know you could have spent a £1m per day since Jesus was born (or 2030 years for non believers) and you still wouldn’t have spent a trillion !

Ps we’re about to £3trn in debt, USA £38trn
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Just the reality of the net money supply over time
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 15, 2026
  • #61,126
CCFCSteve said:
Here’s one for you Pete

Did you know you could have spent a £1m per day since Jesus was born (or 2030 years for non believers) and you still wouldn’t have spent a trillion !

Ps we’re about to £3trn in debt, USA £38trn
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Soon to be $39trn
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Feb 15, 2026
  • #61,127
Sick Boy said:
I’m sure most women are fully aware when it becomes harder for them to have children as well.
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As it is not the same set of rules applied to everyone, reproductive health is important to keep a track of if you do want to have children. By the time many women look at this, it can already be too late.

I think the awareness is getting there more in the last decade or so, and many women are now taking options such as freezing their eggs, but I don't think it is something everyone is fully clued up about. Once the clock is running down it can be really difficult, and very stressful.
 

chiefdave

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  • Feb 16, 2026
  • #61,128
Are we having a year where we don't see our council tax bill go up way beyond inflation while services get cut???
Council tax bills in Coventry will rise less than expected – with the local authority set to sign off a 3.95% increase.

Labour-run Coventry City Council had been budgeting for the maximum rise of 4.99%, but said it had been able to reduce that amount after receiving better than expected funding from central government.
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CCFCSteve

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  • Feb 16, 2026
  • #61,129
chiefdave said:
Are we having a year where we don't see our council tax bill go up way beyond inflation while services get cut???
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Try living in Birmingham Dave !!!

I’ll keep asking, where the fuck is all the cash going


Ps I know social care costs are only going to increase as years go by but there is no way that’s the only reason for what’s happening across a lot of councils at the moment
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 16, 2026
  • #61,130
They're all doing it, well soi, even reform are highlighting some council somewhere, must be catching?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 16, 2026
  • #61,131
Interesting u turn on the local elactions
It’s all choice I suppose democracy at th expense of a lot of money probably the correct call
 

Captain Dart

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  • Feb 16, 2026
  • #61,132
Another Starmer U turn.
 

chiefdave

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  • Feb 16, 2026
  • #61,133
Which elections are these?

Assume we're not spending time on money holding elections for councils that are being abolished in the local government reorganisation!
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 16, 2026
  • #61,134
Sky Blue Pete said:
Interesting u turn on the local elactions
It’s all choice I suppose democracy at th expense of a lot of money probably the correct call
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Reform had enough funds to take legal action against the government - they’ve conceded as they knew this ridiculous decision was essentially unlawful
 

Captain Dart

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  • Feb 16, 2026
  • #61,135
chiefdave said:
Which elections are these?

Assume we're not spending time on money holding elections for councils that are being abolished in the local government reorganisation!
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That is exactly what will happen. Labour are trying to avoid the drubbing they will get in May.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 16, 2026
  • #61,136
chiefdave said:
Which elections are these?

Assume we're not spending time on money holding elections for councils that are being abolished in the local government reorganisation!
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That’s the argument but who cares about spending money we don’t have
On balance democracy should win
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 16, 2026
  • #61,137
Sky Blue Pete said:
That’s the argument but who cares about spending money we don’t have
On balance democracy should win
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Stop being ridiculous- the government has billions - it’s just sanctioned £13 billion extra defence spending

Starmer has fucked up again hasn’t he?
 

chiefdave

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  • Feb 16, 2026
  • #61,138
Captain Dart said:
That is exactly what will happen. Labour are trying to avoid the drubbing they will get in May.
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What I meant was that as a result of the local government reorganisation, which I believe is to resolve the issue of some area's having two tiers of local government, there was concern that we, ie: taxpayers, would be spending a large amount of money holding elections for seats & councils that will imminently cease to exist.

Those aren't the elections being referred to are they?
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 16, 2026
  • #61,139
chiefdave said:
What I meant was that as a result of the local government reorganisation, which I believe is to resolve the issue of some area's having two tiers of local government, there was concern that we, ie: taxpayers, would be spending a large amount of money holding elections for seats & councils that will imminently cease to exist.

Those aren't the elections being referred to are they?
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Why are you playing dumb?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 16, 2026
  • #61,140
chiefdave said:
What I meant was that as a result of the local government reorganisation, which I believe is to resolve the issue of some area's having two tiers of local government, there was concern that we, ie: taxpayers, would be spending a large amount of money holding elections for seats & councils that will imminently cease to exist.

Those aren't the elections being referred to are they?
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They are yes
 

Captain Dart

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  • Feb 16, 2026
  • #61,141
chiefdave said:
What I meant was that as a result of the local government reorganisation, which I believe is to resolve the issue of some area's having two tiers of local government, there was concern that we, ie: taxpayers, would be spending a large amount of money holding elections for seats & councils that will imminently cease to exist.

Those aren't the elections being referred to are they?
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That's a pretext. Besides local government reorg has an agenda, if you believe it is about efficiency and saving money you're a fool.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 16, 2026
  • #61,142
The taxpayer is funding Reforms court costs

Just resign Starmer
 
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LarryGrayson

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  • Feb 16, 2026
  • #61,143
its stupid to hold them as nobody will do anything in that year but reorganise but if it really is unlawful then its such incompetence from goverment they cant come back from that
 
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Deleted member 7943

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  • Feb 17, 2026
  • #61,144
Im pretty sure the target for people like rupert lowe and farage is to split the right wing vote and allow the greens or labour in again so they dont actually have to govern and continue to grift from the sidelines .. thick cunts
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 17, 2026
  • #61,145
Evo1883 said:
Im pretty sure the target for people like rupert lowe and farage is to split the right wing vote and allow the greens or labour in again so they dont actually have to govern and continue to grift from the sidelines .. thick cunts
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Cancelling the local elections and having to reverse the decision makes them stronger and gives another platform for them

The greens will take labour votes
 
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