chiefdave
Well-Known Member
What am I missing?
What am I missing?I understood what he meant.
He proposed a change in mission for the NHS to make it available to insured foreign health tourists while simultaneously restricting it's availability to health tourists seeking free health care and using that insurance income to improve and expand the facilities available to UK citizens.What am I missing?
Took that as more of a footnote than a 'this will solve everything' proposal.He proposed a change in mission for the NHS to make it available to insured foreign health tourists while simultaneously restricting it's availability to health tourists seeking free health care and using that insurance income to improve and expand the facilities available to UK citizens.
I'm not sure the demand is there and it would not be simple to demand and collect the insurance monies but at the moment I think most people agree in many respects the NHS it is a complete disaster that only seems to get worse and surely something has to change.
He also talked about the NHS moving towards the public/private model used by the German and French health systems are much better than the NHS by all accounts.
A lot of this matches what I've experianced with my Dad. Never ending appointments and tests but little in the way of diagnosis or treatment. Then when he ended up in hospital he got stuck there as they couldn't find anywhere to discharge him to.
From what I was told a very common problem as private care home are only really interested in those that require basic care yet pay a considerable amount, or rather the council or NHS pays for them. When it comes to people with complex care needs, an ever increasing section of the population, there's a very limited number of places available.
Why the NHS wastes billions on patients who shouldn't be in hospital
The delayed discharge challenge throws up deeper questions about the care system, co-ordination - and whether some patients are over-treatedwww.bbc.co.uk
Let’s start with what we all agree on:Took that as more of a footnote than a 'this will solve everything' proposal.
How are we quadrupling hospital capacity to enable this to happen? We have neither the infrastructure or the staff.
Not sure using education as an example of how we want to run this proposed NHS is a good idea. The university sector is in crisis with many institutions facing serious finanical issues. The reason? A reliance on overseas students. Not sure modelling the NHS to do the same is viable.
Not sure making all offspring fully medically trained is going to work tbh. Not sure where I'd put the MRI scanner or x-ray machines either.Maybe we need a cultural shift and start to do these things for our parents ourselves.
Not sure making all offspring fully medically trained is going to work tbh.
First aid trained should be a minimum. Able to spot various symptoms such as stroke or seizure. Able to monitor temp and BP.Not sure making all offspring fully medically trained is going to work tbh. Not sure where I'd put the MRI scanner or x-ray machines either.
There's no problem there but that's not going to do anything to help the issues I mentioned or the article references.First aid trained should be a minimum. Able to spot various symptoms such as stroke or seizure. Able to monitor temp and BP.
Modern smartwatches can read vital signs.
Our youth should be trained in first aid and general elderly / post op care (hygiene, hydration etc).
Where’s the problem there?
A lot of this matches what I've experianced with my Dad. Never ending appointments and tests but little in the way of diagnosis or treatment. Then when he ended up in hospital he got stuck there as they couldn't find anywhere to discharge him to.
From what I was told a very common problem as private care home are only really interested in those that require basic care yet pay a considerable amount, or rather the council or NHS pays for them. When it comes to people with complex care needs, an ever increasing section of the population, there's a very limited number of places available.
Why the NHS wastes billions on patients who shouldn't be in hospital
The delayed discharge challenge throws up deeper questions about the care system, co-ordination - and whether some patients are over-treatedwww.bbc.co.uk
Not sure making all offspring fully medically trained is going to work tbh. Not sure where I'd put the MRI scanner or x-ray machines either.
How many unproductive workers can the country overall sustain? Let’s fire all of them.
It’s a coup for Reform to be fair. Although it’s quite funny people unearthing a tweet where Farage hammers Sunak for not sacking, you guessed it… Nadhim Zahawi.Nadhim Zahawi joining Reform, another stellar recruit
It’s a coup for Reform to be fair. Although it’s quite funny people unearthing a tweet where Farage hammers Sunak for not sacking, you guessed it… Nadhim Zahawi.
It’s going to look pretty ridiculous people calling Reform ‘fascist’ an ‘far right’ when they will probably have most Muslims in their top team going into the next election.
Zahawi, Cunningham and Yusef all successful stories of integration and well placed to fight radical Islam.
There’s also an old tweet from Zahawi where he calls Farage’s past comments racist and says “I would be frightened to live in a country run by you”It’s a coup for Reform to be fair. Although it’s quite funny people unearthing a tweet where Farage hammers Sunak for not sacking, you guessed it… Nadhim Zahawi.
Hmmmm, not convinced it’s a coup. He’s a ‘name’ I suppose and he might help some of the arguments over racism but as an individual I’m not a fan of his. Doesn’t surprise me he’s landed at Reform
Really? That’s hilarious.There’s also an old tweet from Zahawi where he calls Farage’s past comments racist and says “I would be frightened to live in a country run by you”
Not sure if Reform’s anti-establishment brand is helped by stacking their ranks with former Tory cabinet ministers.
Our youth should also be trained in basic childcare also. It baffles me why a couple of weeks basic training isn’t given to everyone.
Great stuff, cheered on by @SIR ERNIE I see. What do you suggest the millions of fired people get up to once you have kicked them out of work?
Great stuff, cheered on by @SIR ERNIE I see. What do you suggest the millions of fired people get up to once you have kicked them out of work?
It’s my favourite Tarantino film, Christoph Walz is brilliant.Inglorious Basterds is such a great film. Have you seen it?
Tarantino at his best.
Shocking move. Zahawi is a crook in my eyes.Nadhim Zahawi joining Reform, another stellar recruit
Tory sources claiming he only switched because Kemi Badenoch wouldn’t give him a peerage.Shocking move. Zahawi is a crook in my eyes.
Won’t matter reform sheep will lap it upShocking move. Zahawi is a crook in my eyes.
Won’t matter reform sheep will lap it up
Not at all as I’ve shown time and time againWell you lap up everything Starmer does
It’s already at that point and the gullible just nod and marchI wonder how many establishment politicians from the Tories have to join the Reform ranks for Reform to be no longer anti establishment.
Train to be NHS staff.Great stuff, cheered on by @SIR ERNIE I see. What do you suggest the millions of fired people get up to once you have kicked them out of work?
In all seriousness, you sack a load of people off without any jobs for them to go into and that welfare bill some of you are obsessed with gets a whole lot bigger.Train to be NHS staff.
Find productive work elsewhere? If someone is unproductive, then we definitely do not want them being on the government payroll.Great stuff, cheered on by @SIR ERNIE I see. What do you suggest the millions of fired people get up to once you have kicked them out of work?
Well, gold plated public sector pensions cost a lot of money that isn’t actually funded. It’s a government IOU and the costs are spiralling year in year.In all seriousness, you sack a load of people off without any jobs for them to go into and that welfare bill some of you are obsessed with gets a whole lot bigger.
In all seriousness, you sack a load of people off without any jobs for them to go into and that welfare bill some of you are obsessed with gets a whole lot bigger.
I wonder how many establishment politicians from the Tories have to join the Reform ranks for Reform to be no longer considered the anti establishment party.
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