‘It found £13.6bn was spent on PPE procurement, with 38 billion items purchased - although 11 billion were unused by 2024. Losses were estimated at £10bn from over-ordering and £324m of fraud.’
Not like public sector procurement to waste money
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Public sector procurement was barely involved, the whole PPE buying process was undertaken by the DHSC under very close instruction of Matt Hancock and all the other robbing bastards in the Tory party at that time.‘It found £13.6bn was spent on PPE procurement, with 38 billion items purchased - although 11 billion were unused by 2024. Losses were estimated at £10bn from over-ordering and £324m of fraud.’
Not like public sector procurement to waste money
Public sector procurement was barely involved, the whole PPE buying process was undertaken by the DHSC under very close instruction of Matt Hancock and all the other robbing bastards in the Tory party at that time.
Not like certain posters to needlessly smear whole chunks of the workforce‘It found £13.6bn was spent on PPE procurement, with 38 billion items purchased - although 11 billion were unused by 2024. Losses were estimated at £10bn from over-ordering and £324m of fraud.’
Not like public sector procurement to waste money
Not like certain posters to needlessly smear whole chunks of the workforce
Sure, just write ‘typical public sector’ at the end of the post for a laugh I guess.Hardly ‘smearing’ whole sections of the workforce. It was a flippant comment based on a quote from an article posted and it’s hardly a secret how much money we waste (labour even did a report on MoD procurement wastage before the election)
I'm telling you that not one person from an NHS trust that might regularly buy PPE was actually involved in this yet you're choosing to stick to your usual Tory stereotypingI don’t doubt some of the shitshow was caused by Hancock but ultimately it was still public sector procurement, whether that’s DHSC, NHS etc
Sure, just write ‘typical public sector’ at the end of the post for a laugh I guess.
You will find wasteful spending in all big organisations, public or private.
Private sector waste impacts people who use their services, some of which there is an effective monopoly on. When I worked in big pharma, we had meetings about how to make meetings more productive. Projects went over time and way over budget, huge amounts of money would get lost over quality control issues, and so on and so on. We supplied the NHS with what we were producing so these problems then ultimately impacted ordinary people as orders were late being delivered.It’s a valid point though isn’t it ? Of course large organisations waste money as well, but public sector spending directly impacts me and the rest of the country, so I care a bit more about it. So whether millions/billions has been wasted on poor procurement or the disgusting Moan type ‘fraud’ Im more likely to pay attention and comment.
I’ve said numerous times recently that we need to be more careful with how we choose to spend public money because as tax payers and businesses get squeezed more, their patience going to be wearing very thin. There’s some that think there’s just an endless supply of cash so this doesn’t really matter. I disagree and unless we see an improvement in public services, growth etc then we’re likely to get a populist party like Reform in and I personally think they’ll likely make an even bigger mess of things.
I'm telling you that not one person from an NHS trust that might regularly buy PPE was actually involved in this yet you're choosing to stick to your usual Tory stereotyping
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It’s all related and this habit of pretending that teachers and nurses are sat there pissing resources away, when the front line are trying to deliver more with less resource, is lazy smearing.
To answer your question above, if you’d left the dig at the public sector off at the end there’d be no pushback. It just reads again as an MMB-esque smear of the workforce.What a load of bollocks. I’ve said numerous times that wastage and poor processes are doing a disservice to the hard working front line workers.
To answer your question above, if you’d left the dig at the public sector off at the end there’d be no pushback. It just reads again as an MMB-esque smear of the workforce.
Never going to happen. We should spend or should I say borrow much less.I’ve said Im happy to pay a bit more tax if it helps improve public services, the country etc. All I want is the cash to be spent wisely. There’s been a fair few examples in recent years of millions/billions being wasted (MoD, PPE, and I’ve also given examples of BCC at local level etc etc*) so I don’t think the original comment was unreasonable. There’ll obviously be some really good people working in public sector procurement, unfortunately theres still been ridiculous amounts wasted.
*Labour not only did the MoD procurement waste document they did one with 100 examples of wasted money on sunaks watch. As I say if we want to see the country improve this shouldn’t be a left/right issue
Lots of public procurement waste is ultimately implementation of short sighted political decisions. In the NHS, for example, the worst contracts agreed by the NHS ever were the Tory then Labour PFI deals. These were cooked up by ministers in cahoots with the private sector.I’ve said Im happy to pay a bit more tax if it helps improve public services, the country etc. All I want is the cash to be spent wisely. There’s been a fair few examples in recent years of millions/billions being wasted (MoD, PPE, and I’ve also given examples of BCC at local level etc etc*) so I don’t think the original comment was unreasonable. There’ll obviously be some really good people working in public sector procurement, unfortunately theres still been ridiculous amounts wasted.
*Labour not only did the MoD procurement waste document they did one with 100 examples of wasted money on sunaks watch. As I say if we want to see the country improve this shouldn’t be a left/right issue
Overspent Procurement Overspent procurement refers to procurement projects that have cost far more than initially planned and budgeted. Despite only counting for eight out of a total 67 wastage cases, this category makes up 43% of all wasted money. All cases of overspent procurement in this report have been taken from The Equipment Plan 2020-2030 (NAO) which provides data of the initial cost forecast and the current (as of 2021) cost forecast. The difference between the initial and current forecasts is presented here as wastage which could have been avoided.
Contract Cancellation The MoD often invests in procurement programmes which are subsequently cancelled without receiving the end product. In some cases, the development of a capability appears to be technically unfeasible to complete in budget. In other cases, changes in policy cause the cancellation of the programme. £4.8 billion wasted on cancelled contracts since 2010 Dossier of waste in the Ministry of Defence 2010 - 2021 8 Regardless of the cause, investment in procurement programmes which do not deliver what was contracted and paid for should be considered wastage. Since 2010, 31 cases of contract cancellation have been identified, constituting £4.8B of wastage or 37% of total wastage.
Lots of public procurement waste is ultimately implementation of short sighted political decisions. In the NHS, for example, the worst contracts agreed by the NHS ever were the Tory then Labour PFI deals. These were cooked up by ministers in cahoots with the private sector.
That Labour report is hardly a great look for them either, it shows that waste in the MoD was worse in 2010 and got better under the Tories.
Bad procurement or the usual attempts to mask the real cost of something upfront to make it more politically palatable? See any large infrastructure project ever.
See comment above about politics.
One other major issue aside from changes of government is the behaviours from the treasury downwards in relation to in year spending. E.g. at the moment departments, the NHS, local authority departments will suddenly start trying to buy things to ensure they spend the budget to make sure they get a similar allocation next year. Suppliers sit rubbing their hands together waiting, they don't even have to compete for contracts a lot of the time.Don’t disagree with a lot of that. Moving from government to government with different policies etc is always going to cause problems, as is short termism. I’ve always felt there should be collective cross party planning on nhs and social care which might help
Having said that you just need to read through some of the docs I’ve posted, Google about Birmingham city council. There’s huge mismanagement of cash across the state whether that be general waste, poor political choices, fraud, errors, poor contracts with private sector etc.
The state can get away with this when times are good and/or everything’s working well. When the public are being squeezed and things aren’t working, then questions will rightly be asked
As I keep saying this shouldn’t be a left/right discussion as well spent cash will get better results for either sides supporters. Ultimately it’s a public/state issue which is one of the reasons why governments get voted out.
One other major issue aside from changes of government is the behaviours from the treasury downwards in relation to in year spending. E.g. at the moment departments, the NHS, local authority departments will suddenly start trying to buy things to ensure they spend the budget to make sure they get a similar allocation next year. Suppliers sit rubbing their hands together waiting, they don't even have to compete for contracts a lot of the time.
Bobby Sands lasted 66 days.
He had a stronger base. These are mostly scrawny little vegans to begin with.Bobby Sands lasted 66 days.
I accept we see the world differently, but I thought some of them were genuinely hilarious. Agree on some that were just being belllends of course.The fucking state of the replies to that tweet.
Surely arresting criminals is a good thing and the kind of thing all the 'true patriots' want to see. But no, they're still not happy. Fucking idiots.
Stockbridge Village aka Cantrill Farm, the estate Mick Quinn grew up onWTF.
I accept we see the world differently, but I thought some of them were genuinely hilarious. Agree on some that were just being belllends of course.
In essence many of the comments are spot on, this is nowt but a Plod PR exercise.Some of them possibly just trying to be funny yes, but there was an awful lot of people complaining just for the sake of complaining!
At least they're doing something!In essence many of the comments are spot on, this is nowt but a Plod PR exercise.
In essence many of the comments are spot on, this is nowt but a Plod PR exercise.
In essence many of the comments are spot on, this is nowt but a Plod PR exercise.
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