Captain Dart
Well-Known Member
More Labour balls ups.
The same MPs that revolted over £5bn (or whatever it was) in benefits cuts?That Labour government was brought down by Parliament, this one with such a big majority would need to be brought down by its own MPs. Not happening.
We need to focus on giving Labour at least a full term to sort their shit out, considering how long we gave their predecessors. I say it in blind hope rather than expectation as I can’t underscore enough how much of a disaster a Reform government will be.
Which murder is that?More Labour balls ups.
The same MPs that revolted over £5bn (or whatever it was) in benefits cuts?
With the Greens waiting in the wings, it’s a v dangerous time for the Labour Party.
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The stock market is so happy about Reeves speech, just so happy.
That is entirely different to bringing about an election where you’re nailed on to lose your seat.The same MPs that revolted over £5bn (or whatever it was) in benefits cuts?
With the Greens waiting in the wings, it’s a v dangerous time for the Labour Party.
I don’t think Reeves planned to raise income tax in the end, she has just botched her budgets. Spending has increased more than planned and raising minimum wage in addition to increasing employer’s NI has predictably hit low income workers the most. Borrowing has gone up, gilt yields have followed which increases interest of government debt that increases overall public spending.Should’ve fronted up to them last year. The welfare changes were botched* but sure there could’ve been a way around it ie just focussing purely on metal health claimants for starters. The left of the party cried austerity when all it was trying to do was slow the rapid forecasted increase and show they have a semblance of control over spending. Said it before and I’ll say it again, if people keep being asked to pay more from their taxes and they don’t see that cash being spent well and improvements in public services, labour are done.
*same as WFP
Why is the budget so late this year,or am I mistaken?To be fair it’s bounced back since. Most will await the budget before passing judgement
Not sure why tax cuts is in inverted commas here buddyI don’t think Reeves planned to raise income tax in the end, she has just botched her budgets. Spending has increased more than planned and raising minimum wage in addition to increasing employer’s NI has predictably hit low income workers the most. Borrowing has gone up, gilt yields have followed which increases interest of government debt that increases overall public spending.
The lesson Labour seem to have taken from Liz Truss’ mini budget is that ‘tax cuts’ cause the market meltdown, no… it was the overall government balance sheet that kicked it off because they proposed one massive spending increased couple with significant a revenue drop.
The reason for that is that the changes never came into force… whereas the utility bill support actually did immediately.Not sure why tax cuts is in inverted commas here buddy
Separate to that you said above that a higher minimum wage has hit low income workers the most. Can you explain how please?The reason for that is that the changes never came into force… whereas the utility bill support actually did immediately.
Poking nose in,lack of opportunity?Separate to that you said above that a higher minimum wage has hit low income workers the most. Can you explain how please?
The statement reads like a contradiction so I’m just interested to understand what he meansPoking nose in,lack of opportunity?
The prison crisis is one of those things that you just can’t pin on the Labour government
More than one person has reoffended on release but what choice is there
There’s rules grendelStick 4 in a cell
Why is the budget so late this year,or am I mistaken?
Backing themselves into that corner was dumb.
Edit: anyone notice how her voice is weirdly similar (read: irritating) to Starmer's? It shouldn't matter, but...
Tories broke the same 'no tax rises' pledge just a few years ago.
I don't know why parties continually make such a promise, always comes back to bite you.
Of course it's much more of an issue when this government does it
There’s rules grendel
It’s the double whammy to employers who have responded by cutting jobs and hours to absorb the costs.Separate to that you said above that a higher minimum wage has hit low income workers the most. Can you explain how please?
Don’t be silly bugsyThe rules should go out the window if you commit a crime.
The prison crisis is one of those things that you just can’t pin on the Labour government
More than one person has reoffended on release but what choice is there
I don’t think Reeves planned to raise income tax in the end, she has just botched her budgets. Spending has increased more than planned and raising minimum wage in addition to increasing employer’s NI has predictably hit low income workers the most. Borrowing has gone up, gilt yields have followed which increases interest of government debt that increases overall public spending.
The lesson Labour seem to have taken from Liz Truss’ mini budget is that ‘tax cuts’ cause the market meltdown, no… it was the overall government balance sheet that kicked it off because they proposed one massive spending increased couple with significant a revenue drop.
I find the situation bizarre. Spending apparently out of control but no tangible difference to public services, cost of living and so on.Agreed. I don’t think it was her intention to raise main taxes, even if the manifesto promise was ridiculous and unnecessary. Unfortunately certain elements outside her control like higher global bond yields, have been exacerbated by own goals such as increasing emp’ers NIC (which didn’t help inflation) and party resistance to any spending controls, which have worsened the overall fiscal position.
The crazy thing is, by not showing even a semblance of perceived control over spending we are probably paying more to borrow, thereby reducing the cash available to spend on public services. We will all have to pay for that now. Unintended but pretty obvious consequences.
… Is the penny is finally starting to drop?I find the situation bizarre. Spending apparently out of control but no tangible difference to public services, cost of living and so on.
So where is all the extra money going?
You don’t need to take a patronising tone to be honest, but my question actually hasn’t been answered. Where has all this extra money gone?… Is the penny is finally starting to drop?
A lot of people on here just assumed productivity would grow if you chucked money at public services. We voted out the Tories and the convenient ‘boogeyman’ of Tory cuts (even though there no actual cuts to the NHS) can’t be blamed.
Then expect everything to get worseRam the prisons full.
Then expect everything to get worse
No time or space for reflection, training, education work responsibility and rehabilitation just one merry go round of punish and reoffend until you dieWhy would they get worse?
No time or space for reflection, training, education work responsibility and rehabilitation just one merry go round of punish and reoffend until you die
I find the situation bizarre. Spending apparently out of control but no tangible difference to public services, cost of living and so on.
So where is all the extra money going?
How many prison places are you proposing at £80000 a pop a yearIf you can't be trusted on the outside you shouldn't be released from prison.
How many prison places are you proposing at £80000 a pop a year
Can you predict the BOE interest over say six months?Agreed. I don’t think it was her intention to raise main taxes, even if the manifesto promise was ridiculous and unnecessary. Unfortunately certain elements outside her control like higher global bond yields, have been exacerbated by own goals such as increasing emp’ers NIC (which didn’t help inflation) and party resistance to any spending controls, which have worsened the overall fiscal position.
The crazy thing is, by not showing even a semblance of perceived control over spending we are probably paying more to borrow, thereby reducing the cash available to spend on public services. We will all have to pay for that now. Unintended but pretty obvious consequences.
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