Grendel
Well-Known Member
Discounting his curious past he has zero interest in safe places for women and suggests more NHS resources should be ploughed into more gender reassignment and all requests should be honoured and paid by the tax payer.
What has he said that makes him a lunatic out of curiosity
They look like tiles on Guess Who: The Oddball Edition.And just to underline how fucked the Tories are:
Christ almighty they are absolutely cooked.
He’s embraced the ‘title’ of ‘eco populism’. - That set alarm bells ringing for a start.What has he said that makes him a lunatic out of curiosity
Wants bigger boobs in the UK, he's alright by me!He’s embraced the ‘title’ of ‘eco populism’. - That set alarm bells ringing for a start.
One of his ‘manifesto’ pieces was his desire for legalising ALL drugs.
He has a dubious past with a side hustle involving breast enlargement.
You've kind of proved the point you're arguing against here. If you decided to walk down the street with a Nazi flag you'd be fine, there's no law against that unless police decided to act under hate crime legislation.What if they were Nazi flags? Or pro IRA? Would your stance be the same? If you’re consistent I have no issue, but the police have no choice to decide which laws they agree with.
There are too many enormous tits in that crooked house already.Wants bigger boobs in the UK, he's alright by me!
They're going to end up having some sort of merger with Reform aren't they. If they can mange to stay relevant enough that Reform are even interested in that.And just to underline how fucked the Tories are:
Christ almighty they are absolutely cooked.
full force of law is terrorism charges even if not a terror org Stansted 15 convictions a ‘crushing blow for human rights in UK’It's not that difficult.
Charge those that broke into the airbase and damaged military equipment to the full extent of the law because it's likely to lead to a conviction and send a message about doing that.
Don't charge those that go around waving a flag and saying they support Palestine Action because it's going to take up a huge amount of police time and resources and very unlikely to end up in prosecution. And even if it did what purpose would putting those people in jail (and the costs involved with that) serve?
When you say UK< I assume this is NI, would be quite a thing to stop it there as with the other marches and after years of war it's the right thing to do. I'm guessing it doesnt happen in Birmingham.You've kind of proved the point you're arguing against here. If you decided to walk down the street with a Nazi flag you'd be fine, there's no law against that unless police decided to act under hate crime legislation.
Here's a photo from an IRA parade in the UK in April this year. The only arrests came when they started petrol bombing police. There's also no action taken when loyalist paramilitary flags, mainly in support of the UDA, are flown.
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As for the idea that the police have no choice other than to arrest people at Palestine protests how do you explain the fact that in some areas the police have been instructed to not arrest people as its a complete waste of time and resources?
Yes it was confirmed by at least one constabulary, Devon & Cornwall I think it was. There will not be any consequences at all, the police routinely make decisions about what to prioritise and there are never any consequences.As for the police not using their powers is that confirmed? If it is and they're not carrying out their duties, I'm sure there will be consequnces.
It's not that difficult.
Charge those that broke into the airbase and damaged military equipment to the full extent of the law because it's likely to lead to a conviction and send a message about doing that.
Don't charge those that go around waving a flag and saying they support Palestine Action because it's going to take up a huge amount of police time and resources and very unlikely to end up in prosecution. And even if it did what purpose would putting those people in jail (and the costs involved with that) serve?
You've kind of proved the point you're arguing against here. If you decided to walk down the street with a Nazi flag you'd be fine, there's no law against that unless police decided to act under hate crime legislation.
Here's a photo from an IRA parade in the UK in April this year. The only arrests came when they started petrol bombing police. There's also no action taken when loyalist paramilitary flags, mainly in support of the UDA, are flown.
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As for the idea that the police have no choice other than to arrest people at Palestine protests how do you explain the fact that in some areas the police have been instructed to not arrest people as its a complete waste of time and resources?
Its really not. Happy to defend anyones right to protest. What other groups do you feel have been added to the proscribed terrorist organisation list that you feel shouldn't be on there?Yes, we know the government don't keep a level playing field, but none of you have ever said anything before. Why are you constantly excusing Palestine Action, a terrorist organisation?
It's really odd.
his desire for legalising ALL drugs..
Even if you disagree with Palestine Action’s methods (as I do!) and want to see them all behind bars, surely you can appreciate the argument that proscribing them has been a major tactical error from the government, given that public support for them has ballooned?Yes, we know the government don't keep a level playing field, but none of you have ever said anything before. Why are you constantly excusing Palestine Action, a terrorist organisation?
It's really odd.
Its really not. Happy to defend anyones right to protest. What other groups do you feel have been added to the proscribed terrorist organisation list that you feel shouldn't be on there?
Tbf, when everything you've argued for turns to shit, its a good time to call a time out.You do seem to get very triggered by certain things don’t you?
I think the day I can’t keep up with a 5th rate journalist really would be a time to call it a day.
You seem to be going the same way as poor old @shmmeee who seems too embarrassed to post anymore.
We already have NI cards... Digital ID cards are a trojan horse and frankly, its implementation should be resisted.Its point is to stop illegal migration it seems. Hows that going to work? Sounds expensive as well.
I saw a post from science which really sums it up.According to this fucking clown you can’t be born a man or woman, he’s a freak and weirdos on here will actually vote for him
I don't think its anything remotely close to a fully formed manifesto commitment but its already got people screaming 'he wants to legalise heroin'.Evidence says it works, so I'd consider voting for someone who was genuine and serious about it
Not at all. You can't use 'none of you have ever said anything before' as an argument and then claim a request to name any groups on the terror list who are equivalent to PA that we should have been speaking about is moving the goalposts.Stop moving the goalposts and trying to mud the waters. I am not talking specifically about what is or is not on a list.
You are defending a terrorist organisation, who have been proscribed as such, for actions that include breaking into an air force base and damaging aircraft. It is fucking weird.
If you want to support the people of Palestine, there are other ways to do it.
Biggest weirdo I’ve ever seenOh in an interview another Polanski gen was if people need food let them shoplift
Not at all. You can't use 'none of you have ever said anything before' as an argument and then claim a request to name any groups on the terror list who are equivalent to PA that we should have been speaking about is moving the goalposts.
We literally had to change the definition of terrorism for this to even be possible. Now we have a different definition of terrorism to the rest of the world. Surely you can see how crazy that is.
It's a bit odd to me that folks who talk about Labour and Starmer as a disaster about basically everything also think they're bang on it when they listed PA.
Evidence?Evidence says it works, so I'd consider voting for someone who was genuine and serious about it
Well sort of but it was a comical example of the way the whole thing has been treated. When it first occurred a figure of £7m was first put forward by government officials. This was immediately queried given that other similar protests using paint come in at a damage figure of around £10K.Has anyone listed the damage and the expense,is that information available, grossly exaggerated, more the use of kit Will be behind the reaction of the government to not disturb their activities in overflying the territory of?
Following the vote in the House of Commons held on 3 July 2025, Palestine Action has been officially proscribed as a terrorist organisation under the UK’s Terrorism Act 2000. This brings the total number of proscribed groups in the UK to 84, however experts warn that Palestine Action is the only one proscribed on the basis of violence against property.
While “serious damage to property” is one of the subclauses of Section 1 of Terrorism Act 2000, no other organisation was previously proscribed just due to the extent of damage to property, making this interpretation of the Terrorism Act a “dangerous precedent” according to some experts. Moreover, the application of this clause on Palestine Action likely goes beyond the legislator’s intent: during a parliamentary debate preceding the adoption of the updated Terrorism Act 2006, then Home Secretary, Charles Clarke, assured the MPs who were concerned about the clause being used on anti-war activists who target military infrastructure that the clause on damaging property should not apply to “direct action”.
And there are many ways to punish those that broke into the airbase without trying to futilely arrest and jail completely different people holding a flag.What you are saying is we should give in and let them do what they want because it is easier, but you are only really saying that because you sympathise with this organisation. Just because some members of it are more peaceful than others, doesn't mean you should just turn a blind eye, otherwise where does it end? The bar has already been set by breaking into an airbase.
Yes, it is not that difficult, but you aren't getting it. There are many ways to support the people of Palestine without joining a terrorist group.
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