Grendel
Well-Known Member
Why have 8 Arab states and the UK and Europe welcomed the plan then?
You do understand there is a distinction between what I want to happen and what I think will happen?
That, and for someone who expects the Nobel peace prize, he should achieve something extraordinary. If he actually succeeded in getting Israel completely out of Gaza and the West Bank, decommissioned Hamas, got Gaza rebuilt and secured a two state solution, he’d deserve one.
But he is proposing nothing of the sort.
Because they don’t give a fuck about Palestinians?Why have 8 Arab states and the UK and Europe welcomed the plan then?
The plans not bad in terms of moving an intransigent situation forward to a solution but you don’t move to an outcome without including those involvedWhy have 8 Arab states and the UK and Europe welcomed the plan then?
So why should the left wing loonies and LGBT who they would throw off rooftopsBecause they don’t give a fuck about Palestinians?
Ironic ehSo why should the left wing loonies and LGBT who they would throw off rooftops
I think it’s mainly the thousands of kids that are getting killed tbhSo why should the left wing loonies and LGBT who they would throw off rooftops
Would you agree that the mass murderer Netanyahu should escape justice as part of the deal?Surely any move that saves lives is a good thing and the quicker any conflict and starvation ends the better. However that deal comes about, whoever suggests it, whatever is needed to achieve it, then it doesn't matter. There are no sides in this or at least there shouldn't be other than humanitarian. Perhaps all put your petty point scoring aside and get behind anything that promotes peace.
Yes.Would you agree that the mass murderer Netanyahu should escape justice as part of the deal?
I’d prefer it if he got what he deserved for committing a disgusting genocide. Trump and his predecessor have enabled it, so want to let him off as part of the deal.Yes.
I don't agree with it, but if that's the stumbling block that means we don't lose any more innocent lives then it's a price I'm willing to pay. Would you prefer he went on killing more innocent people so you can see him in court at a later date?
You've not answered the question. Would you prefer he doesn't get off and more people get killed in the meantime so that you can see him get justice?I’d prefer it if he got what he deserved for committing a disgusting genocide. Trump and his predecessor have enabled it, so want to let him off as part of the deal.
The plans not bad in terms of moving an intransigent situation forward to a solution but you don’t move to an outcome without including those involved
He’s in the US now, he could be arrested immediately. Why won’t he be?You've not answered the question. Would you prefer he doesn't get off and more people get killed in the meantime so that you can see him get justice?
We're still waiting for Tony Blair 25 years later to be tried on war crimes so I wouldn't hold your breath.
Any chance you could answer the question? I know it's the politics thread, but last time I checked you weren't an MP. You asked me, I gave you a direct 'Yes' and reasoning.He’s in the US now, he could be arrested immediately. Why won’t he be?
Because I don’t accept that his arrest and immediate peace are mutually exclusive.Any chance you could answer the question? I know it's the politics thread, but last time I checked you weren't an MP. You asked me, I gave you a direct 'Yes' and reasoning.
Neither do I, but again that wasn't the question. You gave me a hypothetical scenario, I'm giving you the same free choice.Because I don’t accept that his arrest and immediate peace are mutually exclusive.
He’s in the US now, he could be arrested immediately. Why won’t he be?
Ah, back to ‘grown up politics’ again. What’s grown up about allowing genocidal war criminals to walk free?Because no grown up politician would do that.
Back in the adult world of reality answer Rob’s question
Ah, back to ‘grown up politics’ again. What’s grown up about allowing genocidal war criminals to walk free?
In the universe where Netanyahu walks free or the killing goes on are the only two choices, sure, let him go free.
Hamas officials were invited to peace talks in Qatar and were killed on arrival were they not?So your invite him for peace talks and then arrest him? Sorry that’s not happening - in the real world he walks free. You don’t cope with reality well do you?
Hamas officials were invited to peace talks in Qatar and were killed on arrival were they not?
Expecting justice to be served on a man who has killed 65-70,000 people is the ‘grown up’ thing.Jesus Christ
We're governed by idiots.
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Expecting justice to be served on a man who has killed 65-70,000 people is the ‘grown up’ thing.
What's didgeridoo?I had a WhatsApp sent to me last night which said:
'Replacing Sunak with Starmer was like being a kid in hospital in the 70's, being told that the Jimmy Saville visit had been cancelled, only to hear a didgeridoo coming down the corridor'
In the real world the UK is obliged to arrest him if he lands on British soil.This is the real world. Not a play ground.
Presumably that's why Tony satays out of the way with the ironic title of peace envoy. Just leaves his son to do the bidding and keep the personal war chest topped up by cozying up to the current PM. I reckon if this lot had been in charge through Covid the Blairs would be supplying PPE.In the real world the UK is obliged to arrest him if he lands on British soil.
Blair and his mate Bush should both have been done for war crimes too. Apparently letting them get away with those is ‘grown up’ politics too.Presumably that's why Tony satays out of the way with the ironic title of peace envoy. Just leaves his son to do the bidding and keep the personal war chest topped up by cozying up to the current PM. I reckon if this lot had been in charge through Covid the Blairs would be supplying PPE.
Blair was allowed to.Ah, back to ‘grown up politics’ again. What’s grown up about allowing genocidal war criminals to walk free?
In the universe where Netanyahu walks free or the killing goes on are the only two choices, sure, let him go free.
He shouldn’t have been.Blair was allowed to.
Really, these loonies have the lowest birth rate of any demographic. They are too busy protesting about anything that looks cool in their movement just following like lemmings stupid hive mentality.I think it’s mainly the thousands of kids that are getting killed tbh
Really, these loonies have the lowest birth rate of any demographic. They are too busy protesting about anything that looks cool in their movement just following like lemmings stupid hive mentality.
No point scoringSurely any move that saves lives is a good thing and the quicker any conflict and starvation ends the better. However that deal comes about, whoever suggests it, whatever is needed to achieve it, then it doesn't matter. There are no sides in this or at least there shouldn't be other than humanitarian. Perhaps all put your petty point scoring aside and get behind anything that promotes peace.
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