Do you want to discuss boring politics? (13 Viewers)

Mucca Mad Boys said:

Happiness and a prosperous society go hand in hand...

Most people just want enough money to buy a house, run a household and start a family. Particularly the latter is seem out of reach for many ordinary people which fuels our tanking fertility rates and exacerbates our future demographic crisis.

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Economic growth doesn’t necessarily mean prosperous

Sky Blue Pete said:

Economic growth doesn’t necessarily mean prosperous

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We don't have economic growth and the country doesn't feel prosperous... It tracks quite well with declining GDP per capita.

Isn't Pete just talking about how GDP as 'the' measure of success might not be the way to go, rather than saying growth shouldn't be a goal? I've thought the same thing for a long time. Feels too crude a measure and totally detached from reality for people, at least as a headline measure in isolation.

Sky Blue Pete said:

In Denmark the retirement age moves with the average age expectancy. It’s 15 years short of it. Sensible I think

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So do men get their pensions a few years earlier?

Lol at Corbyn and Sultana’s party already coming apart at the seams

SBT said:

Lol at Corbyn and Sultana’s party already coming apart at the seams

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Winner of the least surprising news of the year award.

Was listening to a podcast the other day and they had someone who was a supporter of Reform and went on Tommy Robinson marches who was talking about how those groups are happy to unite behind a vague idea of having some things in common and wanting to move in roughly the same direction. Therefore you can end up with people with pretty wide ranging views happily co-existing and in the main putting sometimes big differences aside for the benefit of the bigger picture.

But on the left as we all know the opposite is true. Any slight difference of opinion over policy becomes an issue which sidetracks everyone from the bigger picture. So much time and energy is spent dealing with shit that is in the grand scheme of things largely irrelevant that things never move forward.

There's clearly an appetite for a party on the left but nobody ever seems able to get their act together. Although if they did it would just highlight the problems with a two party system. As we see with Reform it takes the collapse of an existing party to create the space for something new.

Good point I’m not sure I’m sure we could both look it up

Captain Dart said:

So do men get their pensions a few years earlier?

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Grendel said:

They have had 4 female leaders

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Good timing from Corbo

‘Ex-Labour MP Zarah Sultana has accused Jeremy Corbyn of overseeing a "sexist boys' club" locking women out of the founding of a new left-wing party the pair announced earlier this year’