Brighton Sky Blue
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I expected it for myself and it didn’t happen!
I expected it for myself and it didn’t happen!Probably and the public are seeing that many of these students are either a) being many dependents with them b) transitioning into low income work and c) overstaying/violating their visa conditions.
Most of the electorate expect students to leave or transition into highly qualified, high paying work after their studies. This isn’t happening.
The guy is living with a transgender partner. He isn’t a Nick Fuentes ‘bro’.The bullet engravings actually all appear to be references to a game and/or to quotes from the Nick Fuentes part of the bro sphere. He came from a family with a deep gun culture and that was in deep Republican territory.
A bit like Luigi Mangione and other Gen Z murderers these cases aren’t as straightforward as they appear.
Net student migration is over double that isn’t it?
At least wait until he gives his motive is all I’ll say.The guy is living with a transgender partner. He isn’t a Nick Fuentes ‘bro’.
I had 250k in my mind as the most recent number?Student related net migration was down to 130k I think. Big drop after the Tories finally closed dependents loophole, which was being gamed…. Bravermann too busy looking at the boats !
I had 250k in my mind as the most recent number?
That it’s the truth?What is the utility of it?
The problem is if you even halve that you still take most of the number people apparently are ok with, which leaves little room for anything elseYeah, think that’s gross figure (266k)
- Since 2022, decreasing study-related immigration and increasing study-related emigration resulted in lower long-term net migration of non-EU+ international migrants initially arriving in the UK on a study-related visa; this decreased to 131,000 in YE December 2024 compared with our updated YE December 2023 estimate of 309,000.
Another bullet said: ‘Hey Fascist, catch!’At least wait until he gives his motive is all I’ll say.
The issue is that there are plenty of universities out there that frankly, offer crap degrees that require v low grades.The problem is if you even halve that you still take most of the number people apparently are ok with, which leaves little room for anything else
The Labour MP on the Kuenssberg show this morning wasn’t exactly leaping to his defence either.The right wing press, i.e. the Independent peddling the idea that Starmer may be replaced as Labour leader…
Why Keir Starmer cannot survive as prime minister without this man
Many people in Labour want Morgan McSweeney sacked as Downing Street chief of staff but there are doubts Keir Starmer would survive as PM without him, writes David Maddoxwww.independent.co.uk
Another bullet said: ‘Hey Fascist, catch!’
We’ll both agree that Nick Fuentes presents himself further to the right than Charlie Kirk ever did. So the idea Tyler Robinson was radicalised by the far right just isn’t credible. One bullet had a reference to men who are attracted to transitioning male to female trans people (not a reference I get to be honest) but makes sense given his relationship status. It’s fairly reasonable to describe him as a trans-activist from what we know.
In fact, some corners of the US media is fundamentally dishonest when presenting the motives of shooters. Take the recent church shooting by a transgender person who was labelled ‘far right’ because they had ‘6 million not enough’ (a disgusting reference to the holocaust) on the gun alongside trans flags and slogans on the assault rifle used. This person is far more likely to belong to the post-modernist left than the post-modernist right. Right now, the ‘trans-activist’ and ‘pro-Palestine’ positions hardly point to an individual who can be described as ‘far right’.
The Labour MP on the Kuenssberg show this morning wasn’t exactly leaping to his defence either.
The writing’s on the wall when MPs sent on to defend you can’t be arsed"You were supposed to protect me"
Axios has confirmed Fox’s reports that the assailant was a ‘radical leftist’.Yeah they do appear to be leftist engravings at face value, but investigators / experts have cautioned that the antifascist slogans and internet meme references might not actually necessarily point to any kind of partisan political ideology per say, which is fair.
He clearly lived online so it could be one of those where he was so immersed in internet meme culture that he just saw this as a way to gain notoriety.
I do think more info needs to come out before we take initial findings as gospel.
@shmmeee please chastise BSB for spreading RW propaganda.The writing’s on the wall when MPs sent on to defend you can’t be arsed
He thinks I’m still on Team Jezza when I dropped my support for him 6 years ago and think his ego trip project with Sultana is a counter productive vanity exercise.@shmmeee please chastise BSB for spreading RW propaganda.
Anyone can be murderously violent, it transcends ideology. Again we’re entering the territory of ascribing traits to people based on their politics.Axios has confirmed Fox’s reports that the assailant was a ‘radical leftist’.
It’s clear that the guy whose partner was trans, with pretty explicit carvings on the bullets was not ‘far right’.
All you have to do is look at the responses to any JK Rowling ‘gender critical’ tweets to see just how violent trans activists can be.
This is true to a extent.Anyone can be murderously violent, it transcends ideology. Again we’re entering the territory of ascribing traits to people based on their politics.
He thinks I’m still on Team Jezza when I dropped my support for him 6 years ago and think his ego trip project with Sultana is a counter productive vanity exercise.
Axios has confirmed Fox’s reports that the assailant was a ‘radical leftist’.
It’s clear that the guy whose partner was trans, with pretty explicit carvings on the bullets was not ‘far right’.
All you have to do is look at the responses to any JK Rowling ‘gender critical’ tweets to see just how violent trans activists can be.
It’s a group that make a hugely financially positive contrbutionThe issue is that there are plenty of universities out there that frankly, offer crap degrees that require v low grades.
The immigration system is being used to prop up the university sector.
In my mind, unis should have apply to use the visas and the Home Office should consider academic and economic outcomes of non-UK students. Specifically, are they leaving or transitioning into high paying jobs after their studies.
This is true to a extent.
Yet, we have no issues stating that people who are genuinely ‘far right’ tend to be more violent than ‘centrists dads’ because it’s true. The ANTIFA sorts and trans-activists (emphasis on the activists) are undeniably the violent wing of ‘far left’. In the USA, there’s a disproportionate increase in the number of mass shootings committed by trans people, unfortunately.
There were 38 arrests at yesterday’s rally so why were people not surprised? They associate Tommy Robinson with the ‘far right’ and we associate hooliganism with the ‘far right’.
Touching on something @KenilworthSkyBlue said about motives being blurry… No one ‘deconstructed’ what Jo Cox’s killer meant when the killed her, shouting ‘Britain First’. It was a clear nod to the fascist organisation Britain First. His motivations were not the subject of inquiry, it was v clear from the outset.
I don’t blame Corbyn to be honest because he was kicked out the Labour Party. His seat is as safe as the Bank of England so why not cobble together a new party? His ‘coalition’ of metropolitan middle class voters and socially conservative Muslims is inevitably going to come into conflict, in fact, it already has. Zarah Sultana as a co-leader is hilarious because she’ll lose her seat and is so outspoken, she’ll inevitably turn off many ‘would be’ members/allies. Look at how Adnan Hussain has reacted to her comments on the trans issue.
In a past life, I was a Labour member and enthusiastic Corbyn supporter but was quite socially conservative compared to the average ‘lefty’. All that’s changed in my politics is the economics where it is undeniably centre-right now.
Well, not the students who then claim asylum or transition into the health and social care visa route. Any migrant on an income less than £35,000k will be economically a net drain on the treasury.It’s a group that make a hugely financially positive contrbution
They’re public figures - why should their opinions and actions be omitted when reporting on their deaths? Or is it a strict hagiographies-only policy if someone dies suddenly?
I do blame Corbyn now as he’s just waging a vendetta against the party when we don’t need more disharmony. It will just damage the causes he’s meant to care about.This is true to a extent.
Yet, we have no issues stating that people who are genuinely ‘far right’ tend to be more violent than ‘centrists dads’ because it’s true. The ANTIFA sorts and trans-activists (emphasis on the activists) are undeniably the violent wing of ‘far left’. In the USA, there’s a disproportionate increase in the number of mass shootings committed by trans people, unfortunately.
There were 38 arrests at yesterday’s rally so why were people not surprised? They associate Tommy Robinson with the ‘far right’ and we associate hooliganism with the ‘far right’.
Touching on something @KenilworthSkyBlue said about motives being blurry… No one ‘deconstructed’ what Jo Cox’s killer meant when the killed her, shouting ‘Britain First’. It was a clear nod to the fascist organisation Britain First. His motivations were not the subject of inquiry, it was v clear from the outset.
I don’t blame Corbyn to be honest because he was kicked out the Labour Party. His seat is as safe as the Bank of England so why not cobble together a new party? His ‘coalition’ of metropolitan middle class voters and socially conservative Muslims is inevitably going to come into conflict, in fact, it already has. Zarah Sultana as a co-leader is hilarious because she’ll lose her seat and is so outspoken, she’ll inevitably turn off many ‘would be’ members/allies. Look at how Adnan Hussain has reacted to her comments on the trans issue.
In a past life, I was a Labour member and enthusiastic Corbyn supporter but was quite socially conservative compared to the average ‘lefty’. All that’s changed in my politics is the economics where it is undeniably centre-right now.
If memory serves the de Valera government in Dublin sent its condolences to the Nazi government upon hearing of Hitler’s demise.Haha going Godwins law here:
"Adolf was found dead this morning, he contributed many positives things, like the Volkswagen Beatle and the upturn of the German Economy after the Great Depression. RIP"
Can I offer an alternative view?I do blame Corbyn now as he’s just waging a vendetta against the party when we don’t need more disharmony. It will just damage the causes he’s meant to care about.
I’ve been centre left for most of my adult life in both respects. The out and out ‘hard left’ who I have mixed with through my past life as a union rep didn’t necessarily see eye to eye with me.
I would welcome that, but Corbyn is really not the person to lead itCan I offer an alternative view?
The ‘old order’ is clearly crumbling and there will definitely be space for a credible left wing party to take Labour’s place. Just as Reform has mopped up the Brexit vote from the Tories.
The traditional working class is abandoning Labour in its droves and this will only become more pronounced as the old ‘tribalism’ is disappearing.
If Labour gets annihilated at the next election, the future of the British left possibly looks like something of a coalition of the Left-Greens as they do in France. It goes without saying that the French electoral system is a lot more volatile than ours.
Look at what was written after the Democrats in Minnesota were killed if you wish to go down that road.
If John McDonnell were to leave the Labour Party, that’d probably be the best candidate to lead a left coalition. He’s said he’ll never leave the Labour Party.I would welcome that, but Corbyn is really not the person to lead it
Or indeed after Trump got policemen killed at the Capitol because he couldn’t accept losing an electionAlso just to build on this, what was pushed out by Conservatives, including Kirk, after Nancy Pelosi's husband was attacked.
was he actually living with his transgender partner? i’ve seen reports he was living at home still
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