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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (30 Viewers)

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PVA

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,846
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Just applying the same logic as your master
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They really don't like having a taste of their own medicine do they?

It's fucking funny tbf, regardless of whether this was the correct decision or not.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,847
Bugsy said:
He was inciting violence. He should have been found guilty as there is video evidence.

Fuck knows how he has not gone to prison considering Lucy got locked up for a tweet.

It's fucking shambolic. Makes a mockery of the system.
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Agreed, I don't know how he's gotten away with it. But let's not act as though we didn't have whataboutery on this thread earlier in the week about actual violence
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,848
Bugsy said:
He was inciting violence. He should have been found guilty as there is video evidence.

Fuck knows how he has not gone to prison considering Lucy got locked up for a tweet.

It's fucking shambolic. Makes a mockery of the system.
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Totally feel for poor Lucy. If she is released and runs i would vote fo rher.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,849
Ccfcisparks said:
Totally feel for poor Lucy. If she is released and runs i would vote fo rher.
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Stay strong hun xx
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,850
PVA said:
You've just said the only people that think this decision is the right one are in this thread (when nobody has actually said it was the right decision).

While the people who actually made the decision, are quite literally not in this thread.

And you call other people stupid?
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You can’t say ‘I think it’s the wrong decision’ in typical fashion you deflect and chat complete shit to try and make yourself look edgy. You are stupid, and because you have a few friends on this forum you think your right about everything, got some news for you once you log off
 

mmttww

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,851
Not a great look based on what's known about it already (video) and what happened in other cases.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,852
PVA said:
They really don't like having a taste of their own medicine do they?

It's fucking funny tbf, regardless of whether this was the correct decision or not.
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Ah yeah, because it’s something to point score about wanting peoples throats cut. Clown
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,853
SkyBlueDom26 said:
You can’t say ‘I think it’s the wrong decision’ in typical fashion you deflect and chat complete shit to try and make yourself look edgy. You are stupid, and because you have a few friends on this forum you think your right about everything, got some news for you once you log off
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I said I expected him to be found guilty you fucking idiot.

My god you're dense.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,854
PVA said:
They really don't like having a taste of their own medicine do they?

It's fucking funny tbf, regardless of whether this was the correct decision or not.
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'They tried to set fire to people in a hotel'

'Who was burned alive?'

'Not what was said'

'Oh. But come on, how many people were arrested for doing that and did they have the means?'

'There's a video that shows them setting bins on fire and putting them through the fire exits'

'Yeah but how many arrests?'

And on and on and on. I get it, it's very easy to just play a contrarian act and get off on seeing the 'reactions', but it must get boring after a while when nobody bites.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,855
PVA said:
I said I expected him to be found guilty you fucking idiot.

My god you're dense.
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Expected or wanted, did you want him to be found guilty? Love the way your using ‘expected’ because deep down you probably wanted him to be found not guilty
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,856
Did a good job on selecting the jury then I guess.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,857
wingy said:
Did a good job on selecting the jury then I guess.
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I can just imagine what it was like...
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,858
Ccfcisparks said:
I can just imagine what it was like...
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I dread to think
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,859
wingy said:
Did a good job on selecting the jury then I guess.
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This is the thing, for all the ‘two tier Keir’ stuff that will inevitably come out of this do people think he’s out there hand picking the jury??
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,860
Bugsy said:
He was inciting violence. He should have been found guilty as there is video evidence.

Fuck knows how he has not gone to prison considering Lucy got locked up for a tweet.

It's fucking shambolic. Makes a mockery of the system.
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A major difference is that she entered a guilty plea on a charge that can lead to several years in prison.

Jones entered a not guilty plea and therefore it was down to a jury to decide.

I obviously wasn’t at the trail, or even following it particularly closely, so while the video clip on socials leaves you thinking he has to be guilty there is presumably more to it. The jury returned their verdict very quickly.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,861
Very random he's got away with it. It was clear cut on the video.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,862
PVA said:
This is the thing, for all the ‘two tier Keir’ stuff that will inevitably come out of this do people think he’s out there hand picking the jury??
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Isn’t it more the comments made encouraging the people in the Stockport aftermath to actually plead guilty - wasn’t it suggested they’d have little chance of bail and so be incarcerated for a year even before the trial took place?
 

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,863
chiefdave said:
A major difference is that she entered a guilty plea on a charge that can lead to several years in prison.

Jones entered a not guilty plea and therefore it was down to a jury to decide.

I obviously wasn’t at the trail, or even following it particularly closely, so while the video clip on socials leaves you thinking he has to be guilty there is presumably more to it. The jury returned their verdict very quickly.
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From what i can see of the reporting i think hes been cleared on the basis that he wasn't referring to any protestors needingtheir throats cut. He was instead referring to the peope that had left a razor blade on a train, behind a NF sticker i think. My assumption is this means he wasnt inciting the crowd to do harm to the groups protesting at the time.

I'm not saying i necessarily agree but i think thats the basis for the decision.
 
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SBT

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,864
Grendel said:
Isn’t it more the comments made encouraging the people in the Stockport aftermath to actually plead guilty - wasn’t it suggested they’d have little chance of bail and so be incarcerated for a year even before the trial took place?
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I see someone’s got their legal curiosity back!
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,865
Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon said:
From what i can see of the reporting i think hes been cleared on the basis that he wasn't referring to any protestors needingtheir throats cut. He was instead referring to the peope that had left a razor blade on a train, behind a NF sticker i think. My assumption is this means he wasnt inciting the crowd to do harm to the groups protesting at the time.

I'm not saying i necessarily agree but i think thats the basis for the decision.
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No it’s apparently he is neurodivergent and didn’t mean what he said but his condition was such that he said something he didn’t mean.
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,866
He should probably face jail time for this hat tbh

 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,867
PVA said:
He should probably face jail time for this hat tbh

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Should deffo be doing a stretchson.
 
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SBT

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,868
PVA said:
He should probably face jail time for this hat tbh

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Literally this meme:

 

rob9872

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,869
We all saw it and whatever technicality he's got off with, fair play just like the footballers with driving offences etc and money clearly speaks by having the best representation. However whatever side our politics are, it's a fekkin disgrace and makes a mockery of the system. He should have plead guilty and he should be in jail. I'm surprised there wasn't any intervention to ensure that for fear of what will now likely follow with further unrest.

I hope he at least has the grace not to try and resume public office, but I guess there is no shame in some. It will also accelerate the call for judiciary panels with legal backgrounds to decide cases, rather than members of the public and it will be a huge shame for all of us when that happens.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,870
rob9872 said:
We all saw it and whatever technicality he's got off with, fair play just like the footballers with driving offences etc and money clearly speaks by having the best representation. However whatever side our politics are, it's a fekkin disgrace and makes a mockery of the system. He should have plead guilty and he should be in jail. I'm surprised there wasn't any intervention to ensure that for fear of what will now likely follow with further unrest.

I hope he at least has the grace not to try and resume public office, but I guess there is no shame in some. It will also accelerate the call for judiciary panels with legal backgrounds to decide cases, rather than members of the public and it will be a huge shame for all of us when that happens.
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We all saw the clip, and off the back of it you would think he was guilty.

This is in the BBC report, note that the video we saw was not the only video of the whole incident, or we only saw a excerpt of a bigger recording.


Whether that is enough mitigation to be found not guilty will no doubt be the discussion, and I can see why people may think it isn’t.

I do think it’s also time to release Lucy Connolly, she has been in prison for long enough, there’s no real further benefit in keeping her in custody.
 
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SBT

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,871
Ian1779 said:
I do think it’s also time to release Lucy Connolly, she has been in prison for long enough, there’s no real further benefit in keeping her in custody.
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The longer she stays inside, the larger her eventual GB News contract will be
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,872
Very surprised by the decision, and seems very unfair given other people have gone to prison (who I also think shouldn't have as I don't see the point in sending people to prison unless they are an actual threat to society).

I think they'll be very annoyed at their lawyers telling them to plead guilty when someone who hasn't has got away with it. I'm not sure if they had taken it to trial a jury would've convicted them.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,873
“Razor blades behind stickers”

 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,874
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Very surprised by the decision, and seems very unfair given other people have gone to prison (who I also think shouldn't have as I don't see the point in sending people to prison unless they are an actual threat to society).

I think they'll be very annoyed at their lawyers telling them to plead guilty when someone who hasn't has got away with it. I'm not sure if they had taken it to trial a jury would've convicted them.
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I think he’s a nob and he should have gone but people get Connolly plead guilty and this guy didn’t and was found innocent by a jury, right? I’m not sure what people wanted a judge to do with someone who has admitted the charge other than sentence them tbh.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,875
shmmeee said:
I think he’s a nob and he should have gone but people get Connolly plead guilty and this guy didn’t and was found innocent by a jury, right? I’m not sure what people wanted a judge to do with someone who has admitted the charge other than sentence them tbh.
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I get that. If you plead guilty then there is no other option than for the judge to follow the letter of the law, even if many people think it's over the top.

Bet we won't see many people pleading guilty from here on in, creating even more work for the courts.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,876
Was weird how everybody around that time pled guilty though. Wonder what legal advice they got?
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,877
Nick said:
Was weird how everybody around that time pled guilty though. Wonder what legal advice they got?
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Straight from watching the Premier League back into the Politics Thread... hell yeah!!
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,878
Nick said:
Was weird how everybody around that time pled guilty though. Wonder what legal advice they got?
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She tried that one and it was rejected on appeal as it was proven she was given fine advice.

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Lucy-Connolly-v-The-King.pdf
 

Ian1779

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  • Aug 15, 2025
  • #54,879
shmmeee said:
I think he’s a nob and he should have gone but people get Connolly plead guilty and this guy didn’t and was found innocent by a jury, right? I’m not sure what people wanted a judge to do with someone who has admitted the charge other than sentence them tbh.
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 16, 2025
  • #54,880
Ian1779 said:
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Worst person you know… etc etc
 
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