Do you want to discuss boring politics? (22 Viewers)

[PVA]

Just applying the same logic as your master

They really don't like having a taste of their own medicine do they?

It's fucking funny tbf, regardless of whether this was the correct decision or not.

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

He was inciting violence. He should have been found guilty as there is video evidence.

Fuck knows how he has not gone to prison considering Lucy got locked up for a tweet.

It's fucking shambolic. Makes a mockery of the system.

Agreed, I don't know how he's gotten away with it. But let's not act as though we didn't have whataboutery on this thread earlier in the week about actual violence

 

[Ccfcisparks]

He was inciting violence. He should have been found guilty as there is video evidence.

Fuck knows how he has not gone to prison considering Lucy got locked up for a tweet.

It's fucking shambolic. Makes a mockery of the system.

Totally feel for poor Lucy. If she is released and runs i would vote fo rher.

 

[Sick Boy]

Totally feel for poor Lucy. If she is released and runs i would vote fo rher.

Stay strong hun xx

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

You've just said the only people that think this decision is the right one are in this thread (when nobody has actually said it was the right decision).

While the people who actually made the decision, are quite literally not in this thread.

And you call other people stupid?

You can’t say ‘I think it’s the wrong decision’ in typical fashion you deflect and chat complete shit to try and make yourself look edgy. You are stupid, and because you have a few friends on this forum you think your right about everything, got some news for you once you log off

 

[mmttww]

Not a great look based on what's known about it already (video) and what happened in other cases.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

They really don't like having a taste of their own medicine do they?

It's fucking funny tbf, regardless of whether this was the correct decision or not.

Ah yeah, because it’s something to point score about wanting peoples throats cut. Clown

 

[PVA]

You can’t say ‘I think it’s the wrong decision’ in typical fashion you deflect and chat complete shit to try and make yourself look edgy. You are stupid, and because you have a few friends on this forum you think your right about everything, got some news for you once you log off

I said I expected him to be found guilty you fucking idiot.

My god you're dense.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

They really don't like having a taste of their own medicine do they?

It's fucking funny tbf, regardless of whether this was the correct decision or not.

'They tried to set fire to people in a hotel'

'Who was burned alive?'

'Not what was said'

'Oh. But come on, how many people were arrested for doing that and did they have the means?'

'There's a video that shows them setting bins on fire and putting them through the fire exits'

'Yeah but how many arrests?'

And on and on and on. I get it, it's very easy to just play a contrarian act and get off on seeing the 'reactions', but it must get boring after a while when nobody bites.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

I said I expected him to be found guilty you fucking idiot.

My god you're dense.

Expected or wanted, did you want him to be found guilty? Love the way your using ‘expected’ because deep down you probably wanted him to be found not guilty

 

[wingy]

Did a good job on selecting the jury then I guess.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Did a good job on selecting the jury then I guess.

I can just imagine what it was like...

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

I can just imagine what it was like...

I dread to think

 

[PVA]

Did a good job on selecting the jury then I guess.

This is the thing, for all the ‘two tier Keir’ stuff that will inevitably come out of this do people think he’s out there hand picking the jury??

 

[chiefdave]

He was inciting violence. He should have been found guilty as there is video evidence.

Fuck knows how he has not gone to prison considering Lucy got locked up for a tweet.

It's fucking shambolic. Makes a mockery of the system.

A major difference is that she entered a guilty plea on a charge that can lead to several years in prison.

Jones entered a not guilty plea and therefore it was down to a jury to decide.

I obviously wasn’t at the trail, or even following it particularly closely, so while the video clip on socials leaves you thinking he has to be guilty there is presumably more to it. The jury returned their verdict very quickly.

 

[Nick]

Very random he's got away with it. It was clear cut on the video.

 

[Grendel]

This is the thing, for all the ‘two tier Keir’ stuff that will inevitably come out of this do people think he’s out there hand picking the jury??

Isn’t it more the comments made encouraging the people in the Stockport aftermath to actually plead guilty - wasn’t it suggested they’d have little chance of bail and so be incarcerated for a year even before the trial took place?

 

[Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon]

A major difference is that she entered a guilty plea on a charge that can lead to several years in prison.

Jones entered a not guilty plea and therefore it was down to a jury to decide.

I obviously wasn’t at the trail, or even following it particularly closely, so while the video clip on socials leaves you thinking he has to be guilty there is presumably more to it. The jury returned their verdict very quickly.

From what i can see of the reporting i think hes been cleared on the basis that he wasn't referring to any protestors needingtheir throats cut. He was instead referring to the peope that had left a razor blade on a train, behind a NF sticker i think. My assumption is this means he wasnt inciting the crowd to do harm to the groups protesting at the time.

I'm not saying i necessarily agree but i think thats the basis for the decision.

 

[SBT]

Isn’t it more the comments made encouraging the people in the Stockport aftermath to actually plead guilty - wasn’t it suggested they’d have little chance of bail and so be incarcerated for a year even before the trial took place?

I see someone’s got their legal curiosity back!

 

[Grendel]

From what i can see of the reporting i think hes been cleared on the basis that he wasn't referring to any protestors needingtheir throats cut. He was instead referring to the peope that had left a razor blade on a train, behind a NF sticker i think. My assumption is this means he wasnt inciting the crowd to do harm to the groups protesting at the time.

I'm not saying i necessarily agree but i think thats the basis for the decision.

No it’s apparently he is neurodivergent and didn’t mean what he said but his condition was such that he said something he didn’t mean.

 

[PVA]

He should probably face jail time for this hat tbh

 

[oscillatewildly]

He should probably face jail time for this hat tbh

Should deffo be doing a stretchson.

 

[SBT]

He should probably face jail time for this hat tbh

Literally this meme:

 

[rob9872]

We all saw it and whatever technicality he's got off with, fair play just like the footballers with driving offences etc and money clearly speaks by having the best representation. However whatever side our politics are, it's a fekkin disgrace and makes a mockery of the system. He should have plead guilty and he should be in jail. I'm surprised there wasn't any intervention to ensure that for fear of what will now likely follow with further unrest.

I hope he at least has the grace not to try and resume public office, but I guess there is no shame in some. It will also accelerate the call for judiciary panels with legal backgrounds to decide cases, rather than members of the public and it will be a huge shame for all of us when that happens.

 

[Ian1779]

We all saw it and whatever technicality he's got off with, fair play just like the footballers with driving offences etc and money clearly speaks by having the best representation. However whatever side our politics are, it's a fekkin disgrace and makes a mockery of the system. He should have plead guilty and he should be in jail. I'm surprised there wasn't any intervention to ensure that for fear of what will now likely follow with further unrest.

I hope he at least has the grace not to try and resume public office, but I guess there is no shame in some. It will also accelerate the call for judiciary panels with legal backgrounds to decide cases, rather than members of the public and it will be a huge shame for all of us when that happens.

We all saw the clip, and off the back of it you would think he was guilty.

This is in the BBC report, note that the video we saw was not the only video of the whole incident, or we only saw a excerpt of a bigger recording.


Whether that is enough mitigation to be found not guilty will no doubt be the discussion, and I can see why people may think it isn’t.

I do think it’s also time to release Lucy Connolly, she has been in prison for long enough, there’s no real further benefit in keeping her in custody.