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There’s a video of at least part of the arson attempt in the report. Good goalpost moving though.
There’s a video of at least part of the arson attempt in the report. Good goalpost moving though.How many were actually showing intent and capability to burn a building?
So people who signed up to do a poll. It's not all of the public.I forgot you don’t believe in polls. It was YouGov, people slightly more supportive of the riots than 2011, but still massively against.
I forgot you don’t believe in polls. It was YouGov, people slightly more supportive of the riots than 2011, but still massively against.
So people who signed up to do a poll. It's not all of the public.
Also you're merging rioters with protesters aren't you?
So people who signed up to do a poll. It's not all of the public.
I spent the first 18 months trying to sort out my Dads care with the local C&W NHS before it was decided we needed ICBs, whose main role seemed to be withdrawing funding from as many people as possible.Just a clown show really isn't it
'No one was actually burnt alive so it's fine'
Hot take #8728764392 from the resident contrarian
People sitting with placards saying stop genocide and some with Palestine Action on - lock them up.
Try to set fire to a building with people in - fine cos no-one actually got burnt alive.
No violence? Police were attacked and injured.Just to throw a grenade, both direct action with no violence? Either both should be allowed or neither.
No violence? Police were attacked and injured.
As the public were by Palestine action.
Are you talking about the break in at Elbit in Bristol last Aug? because comparing that to the riots after Southport is a stretch however you look at it.
Are you considering the people who tried to burn the hotel last year to be terrorists in that case?As the public were by Palestine action. But that wasn’t their main intent so it’s OK, no?
Are you considering the people who tried to burn the hotel last year to be terrorists in that case?
Im saying if we took property damage out of the equation for proscribing groups then you’d have the same argument against both.
You know details of PA's past actions, I've been playing catch-up, I hear what you're saying, just doesn't convince me that their listing wasn't a rushed, politically driven decision rather than 'must protect the public!'.
Really? Was Susan from Tunbridge Wells planning to behead an airman in the street?They obviously saw the entire RAF as a valid target
use the justice system to exact grudges TBQH.
Really? Was Susan from Tunbridge Wells planning to behead an airman in the street?
and I don't think that's what's happened. I think pressure from Israel and its lobby groups led to them being placated and PA being listed.
I also can’t imagine Israel give a shit tbh.
and I think if groups like this are bothered enough to intervene in the low-level bits they have been, it's not wild to think Israel would apply pressure on the government to take action on something more high profile.
Love the idea that Israel spend insane amounts of money on advertising their propaganda because they don't give a shit what anyone thinks
No, I’m saying there have been terror groups in this country who really did see the “entire” armed forces as a valid target, to the extent that one serviceman was murdered on the street. Are Palestine Action in the same category for you now?They attacked an RAF base. I’m sorry I know we’re supposed to be all “go on bro get the man” but are we really asking why the government and security services took a special interest in a group literally breaking into and sabotaging military equipment?
No, I’m saying there have been terror groups in this country who really did see the “entire” armed forces as a valid target, to the extent that one serviceman was murdered on the street. Are Palestine Action in the same category for you now?
Really? Was Susan from Tunbridge Wells planning to behead an airman in the street?
On a different topic. This is an outstanding thread.
(Urgh BlueSky embedder)
and I don't think that's what's happened. I think pressure from Israel and its lobby groups led to them being placated and PA being listed.
It would seem a somewhat incredulous view. Starmer has now stated the group deliberately target Uk Jewish businesses. By definition a racist action. It’s a stretch to say he’s fabricating this to preserve arms sales to Israel
I've not said anything about arms sales or how Starmer chooses to justify the decision to list them. I'm saying it's not mad to think Israel would try to shut down dissent by leaning on our government.
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