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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,426
chiefdave said:
Can’t find those stats, only think I can find is something from the commons library saying 29% of asylum seekers arrive by small boats.

The small boats thing is entirely a problem of our own making. There’s a reason the use of that route to entry was virtually non existent prior to 2018.
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Woah be careful you can’t blame Farage he’s the hero and saviour rolled into one
 

GIMOC

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,427
PVA said:
You're the one being thick.

I'm not saying it's not illegal to enter a country without documents.

Try reading it again.
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So they are illegal immigrants then because they entered the country without documents

Ffs
 

GIMOC

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,428
Sky Blue Pete said:
Woah be careful you can’t blame Farage he’s the hero and saviour rolled into one
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illegal immigration been happening for 20 years

Used to be Lorries they came through

you another one to add to the thick list?

tony Blair started this issue 20 years ago
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,429
GIMOC said:
illegal immigration been happening for 20 years

Used to be Lorries they came through

you another one to add to the thick list?

tony Blair started this issue 20 years ago
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Since Brexit is the answer and still of the million or so net migration to this country in 2024 about 30000 were from small boat crossings

you are being played
 

GIMOC

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,430
Sky Blue Pete said:
Since Brexit is the answer and still of the million or so net migration to this country in 2024 about 30000 were from small boat crossings

you are being played
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It was an issue before Brexit and an issue after brexit

why?

because the government allow this to happen. it’s easy to stop if they wanted to
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,431
GIMOC said:
dehumanised?

a 12 year old girl got raped 4 miles from our football club. surely that’s dehumanising for the girl and family?
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Yes, and that’s a crime. But describing a whole group of people as ‘illegals’ is dehumanising also. And it makes it easier to write about them like they’re a problem to be solved instead of real people.

Again, you cannot be an illegal asylum seeker.
 
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GIMOC

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,432
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yes, and that’s a crime. But describing a whole group of people as ‘illegals’ is dehumanising also. And it makes it easier to write about them like they’re a problem to be solved instead of real people.

Again, you cannot be an illegal asylum seeker.
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No it’s not

if you enter a country without the right documents then it’s illegal act and so should be detained

could you imagine going to Spain without a passport and Spain will let you in?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,433
GIMOC said:
It was an issue before Brexit and an issue after brexit

why?

because the government allow this to happen. it’s easy to stop if they wanted to
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Sure, piece of piss. What should they do?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,434
GIMOC said:
It was an issue before Brexit and an issue after brexit

why?

because the government allow this to happen. it’s easy to stop if they wanted to
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It was not an issue it was made an issue by Farage who used it to whip up sentiment against migration from Eastern Europe

the numbers at 800,000 net migration began in 2016 and have only just reduced

it’s not easy to stop especially when we need significant migration to ensure our older generation have enough money for their retirement and we have enough workers in some key industries

it’s far from easy
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,435
We've had 30 years of PMs who are open border globalists.
If anyone thinks this latest idiot will ever make a serious effort to control immigration they're mistaken.
 

Marty

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,436
Sky Blue Pete said:
It was not an issue it was made an issue by Farage who used it to whip up sentiment against migration from Eastern Europe

the numbers at 800,000 net migration began in 2016 and have only just reduced

it’s not easy to stop especially when we need significant migration to ensure our older generation have enough money for their retirement and we have enough workers in some key industries

it’s far from easy
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You're one for taxing the rich, million pound pension pot in your mid 50's give some of it away.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,437
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SIR ERNIE said:
We've had 30 years of PMs who are open border globalists.
If anyone thinks this latest idiot will ever make a serious effort to control immigration they're mistaken.
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Already is and has
Love Lowe to get his wish and put the navy in the channel and see how that shit goes down
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,438
Marty said:
You're one for taxing the rich, million pound pension pot in your mid 50's give some of it away.
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I’m sorry I’m not sure I understand the comment it’s probably me of course
 

GIMOC

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,439
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Disgusting comment
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why?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,440
GIMOC said:
why?
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Claiming that me and another poster are happy with a crime like that. Disgusting.
 
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LarryGrayson

Member
  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,441
Sky Blue Pete said:
No point discussing @LarryGrayson he makes stuff up about the club and now gets offended on behalf of people he doesn’t know or probably care about
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hes makin offensive lies he needs to stop now its well out of orda
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,442
LarryGrayson said:
hes makin offensive lies he needs to stop now its well out of orda
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Let them mate you stay being you
We can’t change him we can choose how we react
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,443
GIMOC said:
if you come here without a passport you get returned to the last country you come from
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That used to be the case but that ended with Brexit. Dublin Regulation III no longer applies in the UK.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,444
GIMOC said:
Tell me what’s wrong?

hit a nerve.

so you believe blokes with no documents should be allowed in this country? Yes or no?

many of these blokes have raped young girls

so you stick up for them, you are part of the problem
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@Sick Boy and @Nick get this piece of shit off the forum.
 

GIMOC

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,445
Brighton Sky Blue said:
@Sick Boy and @Nick get this piece of shit off the forum.
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answer the questions
 

GIMOC

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,446
Brighton Sky Blue said:
@Sick Boy and @Nick get this piece of shit off the forum.
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why am I piece of shit

Not wanting undocumented males coming into this country raping young girls

get you
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,447
PVA said:
What on earth are you on about?

I'm saying there's a difference between an illegal act and being an illegal person.

It is not illegal to be a person (I guess unless you've been sentenced to death?).
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If you are in a country illegally you are an illegal migrant
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,448
Sky Blue Pete said:
Since Brexit is the answer and still of the million or so net migration to this country in 2024 about 30000 were from small boat crossings

you are being played
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that’s not true. Under the Blair government it was discussed to house migrants in a Scottish island to process.

It was just a different method of entry
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,449
Grendel said:
If you are in a country illegally you are an illegal migrant
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Someone in the country to claim asylum is not there illegally until the claim has been rejected.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,450
Sky Blue Pete said:
No point discussing @LarryGrayson he makes stuff up about the club and now gets offended on behalf of people he doesn’t know or probably care about
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it’s clearly an an alt account
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,451
Grendel said:
that’s not true. Under the Blair government it was discussed to house migrants in a Scottish island to process.

It was just a different method of entry
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Yes it is
 

mmttww

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,452
GIMOC said:
why am I piece of shit
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You're using horrible sh*t that's been done to children to score internet points on a football forum.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,453
mmttww said:
You're using horrible sh*t that's been done to children to score internet points on a football forum.
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Well labour MPs do that
 

GIMOC

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,454
mmttww said:
You're using horrible sh*t that's been done to children to score internet points on a football forum.
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points scoring? to who?

stating facts

Worse excuse I know when people say points scoring that’s when you know someone losing an argument
 

mmttww

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,455
Grendel said:
Well labour MPs do that
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I don't think Labour MPs post on here. If you're looking for someone to defend MPs of any persuasion so you can get into it and do the deflection dance, you're talking to the wrong bloke.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,456
Grendel said:
Well labour MPs do that
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What relevance does that have even if it’s true?
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,457
mmttww said:
I don't think Labour MPs post on here. If you're looking for someone to defend MPs of any persuasion so you can get into it and do the deflection dance, you're talking to the wrong bloke.
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Hardly a deflection dance. This is a forum with posters using silly names. Not the same As a cabinet member sayin anyone opposing his law supports Jimmy Saville
 

mmttww

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,458
GIMOC said:
Worse excuse I know when people say points scoring that’s when you know someone losing an argument
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I'm not arguing with you. I answered a question you asked. You're not making an argument. You're telling people that they condone children being raped.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,459
mmttww said:
I'm not arguing with you. I answered a question you asked. You're not making an argument, either. You're telling people that they condone children being raped.
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You once said your ashamed we have fans who took a different side to you once
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 3, 2025
  • #54,460
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What relevance does that have even if it’s true?
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Well I don’t see the difference
 
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