and since 2015, after which im guessing most/all current resident docs would’ve made the decision to study to be a doctor, there’s been a real term pay increase. Oh and don’t mention 23% emp’er pension conts or training costs covered by nhs
No point debating though, we’ve got an endless supply of printed cash and wealth taxes which will solve everything. All will be fine
….just don’t read the latest OBR report
Just need to give everybody loads more money, simples.and since 2015, after which im guessing most/all current resident docs would’ve made the decision to study to be a doctor, there’s been a real term pay increase. Oh and don’t mention 23% emp’er pension conts or training costs covered by nhs
No point debating though, we’ve got an endless supply of printed cash and wealth taxes which will solve everything. All will be fine
….just don’t read the latest OBR report
Why would we ever want to discourage more people becoming Doctors with how under strain our NHS is. I've never got that really.Just need to give everybody loads more money, simples.
Weren't there any conditions when the last 2 pay rises were agreed?When asked why he wanted to be a doctor he said it "looked interesting"
The hilarious bit was when the demented woman from the Daily Express said "one of your members said they are excited to strike"
She was told she cannot really prove that but the Union guy said "oh its true - I said it"
Why would we ever want to discourage more people becoming Doctors with how under strain our NHS is. I've never got that really.
If people were discouraged then surely there wouldn't be any junior doctors?Why would we ever want to discourage more people becoming Doctors with how under strain our NHS is. I've never got that really.
We’ve a huge issue having to take many non English doctorsIf people were discouraged then surely there wouldn't be any junior doctors?
We’ve a huge issue having to take many non English doctors
I'd suggest not granting them a pay that justifies the ever increasing demand being put on them is discouraging. I guess the truth will only come out in the next few years.If people were discouraged then surely there wouldn't be any junior doctors?
Why would we ever want to discourage more people becoming Doctors with how under strain our NHS is. I've never got that really.
If people were discouraged then surely there wouldn't be any junior doctors?
We’ve a huge issue having to take many non English doctors
I'd suggest not granting them a pay that justifies the ever increasing demand being put on them is discouraging. I guess the truth will only come out in the next few years.
They got 22% last year and been offered 5.6% this year. If that warrants striking the country might as well shut down
How do their wages compare internationally? Thats the market we’re competing in.
So should I cancel my meeting with HR tomorrow?It's not like they're demanding six figures after drinking their way through a BA in Journalism.
Nick will be back to moaning indirectly about foreigners again shortlyWhy would we ever want to discourage more people becoming Doctors with how under strain our NHS is. I've never got that really.
What if it was Tommy Robinson demanding a pay rise thoughNick will be back to moaning indirectly about foreigners again shortly
To make them rich?"why does the NHS spend so much money on expensive locums and temporary staff?"
At least in the area my ex worked in the process went like this.To make them rich?
Or is it the agencies?
Thread sums the country up nicely. Can’t be arsed to pay medical professionals properly or offer decent conditions, also don’t want foreigners in to do the work for less.
Make your mind up
The undervaluing of medical professionals on this forum is pretty crazy.Thread sums the country up nicely. Can’t be arsed to pay medical professionals properly or offer decent conditions, also don’t want foreigners in to do the work for less.
Make your mind up
The undervaluing of medical professionals on this forum is pretty crazy.
If we weren't rapidly becoming a fatter and unhealthier nation too maybe you could dismiss it.
In this case the government. Personally I think we should offer strong wages and working conditions to attract and retain the best quality.Who actually decides what they are worth?
Nick will be back to moaning indirectly about foreigners again shortly
Define strong wages and working conditions...In this case the government. Personally I think we should offer strong wages and working conditions to attract and retain the best quality.
I’m sure on a matter as important as healthcare you agree.
People is a very general word to use.Genuine question, at what point would some of you say "taking the piss now" with people demanding pay rises or striking?
Do you disagree with the principle?Define strong wages and working conditions...
"why does the NHS spend so much money on expensive locums and temporary staff?"
So should I cancel my meeting with HR tomorrow?
People is a very general word to use.
Are we talking about medical professionals who've trained for 10-15 years, or Shop workers?
I'm asking how it's defined.Do you disagree with the principle?
Train drivers? Over 1k a week isn't enough?Genuine question, at what point would some of you say "taking the piss now" with people demanding pay rises or striking?
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