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Yep agree
Yep agreeAlso if she is "resigning" after 14 years then she joined in 2011, the Ed Miliband era which was pretty much like the current party.
Which is what is happening with the non-doms after the closed the “loopholes”.
As a rule of thumb, whatever new taxes are introduced rarely raise the sums they claim.
is it? there's not been a flood of them leavingWhich is what is happening with the non-doms after the closed the “loopholes”.
As a rule of thumb, whatever new taxes are introduced rarely raise the sums they claim.
So is the "pro gaza leftist" just an act?Yep agree
It's early days yet - not even 24 hours. Sitting MPs will wait and see how the Govt agenda is progressing. But another battle like the Welfare Bill could see some movement. There's going to be those on the left of the Labour party waiting to see how much influence they can exert on policy on the back of the Welfare bill climb down. This new group's existence is a test of Labour's resolve going forward.Also as I said earlier it's strange that people who probably can win as independents such as McDonnell or Abbott haven't joined her straight away,
It's early days yet - not even 24 hours. Sitting MPs will wait and see how the Govt agenda is progressing. But another battle like the Welfare Bill could see some movement. There's going to be those on the left of the Labour party waiting to see how much influence they can exert on policy on the back of the Welfare bill climb down. This new group's existence is a test of Labour's resolve going forward.
Tories ignored Reform threat and it cost them. Tory voters didn't migrate to Reform just because of immigration. There was a tiredness with the inept, indecisive and weak leadership of the Tory Govts.
I think that's genuine, and I've actually had dealings with her that lead me to think that. But she has reacted rashly to the suspension and increasingly made things more about her.So is the "pro gaza leftist" just an act?
Wide open goal missedThe Sultana thing is very very funny, made extra funny by how seriously she takes herself. Delicious.
sorry but that is just utter nonsense.It's early days yet - not even 24 hours. Sitting MPs will wait and see how the Govt agenda is progressing. But another battle like the Welfare Bill could see some movement. There's going to be those on the left of the Labour party waiting to see how much influence they can exert on policy on the back of the Welfare bill climb down. This new group's existence is a test of Labour's resolve going forward.
Tories ignored Reform threat and it cost them. Tory voters didn't migrate to Reform just because of immigration. There was a tiredness with the inept, indecisive and weak leadership of the Tory Govts.
That's a hell of a conclusion to draw about a party that was announced less than 12 hours ago. Also implies that other politicians aren't self serving.I wouldn’t vote for them for starters. They’re making this about themselves rather than the causes they claim it to be.
Good luck with thatI want Labour to grow some balls and push the progressive policies that can get the country recovering from all the negligence of 2010-24.
Is it a party if it is really only 1 person?That's a hell of a conclusion to draw about a party that was announced less than 12 hours ago. Also implies that other politicians aren't self serving.
Good luck with that
Seems to be enough to have some people rattled.Is it a party if it is really only 1 person?
who is rattled? I'm confused as to what she is trying to achieve as the numbers don't add up but there's nothing to be rattled about.Seems to be enough to have some people rattled.
ok but i'm going to do a Grendel and bookmark this for 6 months time - just in casesorry but that is just utter nonsense.
Also it's not a group, it's just her and it's all about her trying to build a personal vote which may give her a chance to keep her seat.
If there was any chance of others then they would have worked all this out in advance and left at the same time. Heck, they would of even actually made sure Corbyn was happy as he seemed to be blindsided. Even Change UK properly.
As has been said no one is throwing away their career for this.
crack on with thatok but i'm going to do a Grendel and bookmark this for 6 months time - just in case
There are many Labour MPs on this side of the house who know their chances of reelection are slim. So why not rebel on government legislation?I doubt many more MPs will do a sultana and kill their own political career.
If you wanted a longer term career in politics you wouldn't join something that Sultana quite clearly is latching onto in a desperate bid to keep her seat. It's an attention grabbing stunt.That's a hell of a conclusion to draw about a party that was announced less than 12 hours ago. Also implies that other politicians aren't self serving.
They all had the whip given back apart from her and McDonnell.There are many Labour MPs on this side of the house who know their chances of reelection are slim. So why not rebel on government legislation?
Defections, not as sure but Starmer has withdrew the whip from quite a few MPs.
As for Sultana, she was never going to be in government as a minister or anything like that.
Certain sections of the press certainly seem to have had a call on the bat phone. It will always amaze me how panicked some people get about the left given the left has repeatedly shown itself to be unable to unite as a collective.who is rattled? I'm confused as to what she is trying to achieve as the numbers don't add up but there's nothing to be rattled about.
This is something that could be interesting. There were murmurs from within the party that some felt Starmer should have taken a firmer line on those rebelling on the welfare bill, including removing the whip.Defections, not as sure but Starmer has withdrew the whip from quite a few MPs.
Lots of local supportThe Sultana thing is very very funny, made extra funny by how seriously she takes herself. Delicious.
I mean if her concern was a nice payday and a stable long term career in politics she would have just shut up and be blindly re-elected in the next 10 or so election in Cov South!If you wanted a longer term career in politics you wouldn't join something that Sultana quite clearly is latching onto in a desperate bid to keep her seat. It's an attention grabbing stunt.
Again, you get upset about one lying but another one lies and you're all in?Lots of local support
Think she’d do a Nellist if a bye election was called
I’d vote for her
All in lol!Again, you get upset about one lying but another one lies and you're all in?
Surely you would know if you're doing her pr?All in lol!
What’s she lied about?
The press? It's fallen right down the front pages though and that was all because Corbyn was like "yeah, not what is actually happening" as suspended MP resigns party membership isn't the story that "new left wing party" is.Certain sections of the press certainly seem to have had a call on the bat phone. It will always amaze me how panicked some people get about the left given the left has repeatedly shown itself to be unable to unite as a collective.
I’m just asking nickSurely you would know if you're doing her pr?
Like I said, for some if they wear a different coloured tie their shit doesn't stink.
Well off the top of my head there was the faux bullshit about her being too scared because people weren't wearing face masks.I’m just asking nick
What has she lied about?
Shades of Dave Nellist.Seems Zarah should of told Corbyn about them forming and co-leading a new party.
There's just not the numbers for them to win anything outside of Islington North, definitely not in Coventry South.
It just seems the weird behaviour of someone who wasn't going to be allowed the whip again and knows there's no way to win as an independent.
nah, he gave Cunningham a run for his money at the 1992 GE, she isn't doing that.Shades of Dave Nellist.
I've read a little about the tax affairs of the mega rich, (I'm skint myself, as the Mrs and kids have bled my dry)So they don't use offshore investments currently but will? How do you know about the existence of such schemes?
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