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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (31 Viewers)

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SBT

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  • May 23, 2025
  • #51,241
The Philosopher said:
Really?

Is it better to have a potential 50% tariff or a 10% one.

Take your time….
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I think there are more considerations to take into account than whatever tariff number Trump has plucked out of the air this morning. (But I’m sure these latest tariffs are for real this time, pinky promise)
 
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MalcSB

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  • May 23, 2025
  • #51,242
shmmeee said:
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16% achieved
14.7% wait and see
5.9% unclear or disputed
 

MalcSB

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  • May 23, 2025
  • #51,243
PVA said:
It's only either of those things if you are incapable of the most basic critical thinking
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Sorry, don’t understand that. Is this a concocted Labour logic?

Standard logic doesn’t seem to work with this lot.
 

SBAndy

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  • May 23, 2025
  • #51,244
The Philosopher said:
The background and perspective aside, being in the EU, is it a good thing?

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So the 20% figure given just a few weeks ago was…what…guesswork? And now he’s got the real figures?

I’ve farted more sense than that whopper talks.
 
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PVA

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  • May 23, 2025
  • #51,245
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 23, 2025
  • #51,246
The Philosopher said:
The background and perspective aside, being in the EU, is it a good thing?

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£250bn? Stop buying stuff you greedy consumerist fuck wits
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 23, 2025
  • #51,247
Sky Blue Pete said:
£250bn? Stop buying stuff you greedy consumerist fuck wits
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Well that says $250m but he did mean billion.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • May 24, 2025
  • #51,248
PVA said:
Just had a look and my parents bought a 4 bed house with an acre of land in 1999 for £175k.

That's 330k in today's money.

They don't live there anymore but that house would probably cost minimum 800k if it was on the market today, while 330k gets you a 3 bed semi.

But but Netflix and avocados and iphones.
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You can get a nice house in the best areas of Cov for £330k.

It could get you 2 or maybe 3 flats / terraces in the not so nice areas.
 

shmmeee

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  • May 24, 2025
  • #51,249
Nick said:
You can get a nice house in the best areas of Cov for £330k.

It could get you 2 or maybe 3 flats / terraces in the not so nice areas.
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Can you link some?
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 24, 2025
  • #51,250
The Philosopher said:
Really?

Is it better to have a potential 50% tariff or a 10% one.

Take your time….
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Is it better to have an extra £100B in trade every year or not?

In terms of economics (which is what your question is really about) you’d take the 50% tariff everyday vs not loosing the £100b in trade with the EU.
 

Marty

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  • May 24, 2025
  • #51,251
shmmeee said:
Can you link some?
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I've just had a quick look and theres loads of decent properties in Earlsdon, Coundon, Mount Nod, Allesley, Chapelfields.
 

Nick

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  • May 24, 2025
  • #51,252
shmmeee said:
Can you link some?
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Which ones?
 

chiefdave

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  • May 24, 2025
  • #51,253
Isn't the point PVA was making that his parents house, which cost in todays money £330K, would now cost £800K plus? Not that its impossible to buy a house for £330K
 
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PVA

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  • May 24, 2025
  • #51,254
chiefdave said:
Isn't the point PVA was making that his parents house, which cost in todays money £330K, would now cost £800K plus? Not that its impossible to buy a house for £330K
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Yes exactly that!
 

MalcSB

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  • May 25, 2025
  • #51,255
shmmeee said:
Yeah was a different one on the FT I think.
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We all did quite badly iirc.
 

MalcSB

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  • May 25, 2025
  • #51,256
PVA said:
Yes exactly that!
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Do you need an £800k house?
 

MalcSB

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  • May 25, 2025
  • #51,257
skybluetony176 said:
Is it better to have an extra £100B in trade every year or not?

In terms of economics (which is what your question is really about) you’d take the 50% tariff everyday vs not loosing the £100b in trade with the EU.
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Are you really sure about that?
 

MalcSB

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  • May 25, 2025
  • #51,258

France impounds UK vessel accused of illegal fishing

The British ship is diverted to the port of Boulogne after being stopped by a French patrol boat.
www.bbc.co.uk


Our EU friends
 

MalcSB

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  • May 25, 2025
  • #51,259
shmmeee said:
Can you link some?
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Here is one to start with, very similar to my parents house ( cheaper as not in Coventry).

Try Rightmove, there are loads.

Property Listing | haart

www.haart.co.uk
 
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PVA

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  • May 25, 2025
  • #51,260
MalcSB said:
Do you need an £800k house?
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Missing the point again.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • May 25, 2025
  • #51,261
PVA said:
Missing the point again.
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Are you surprised
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 25, 2025
  • #51,262
So the point is something has increased in value?
 
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PVA

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  • May 25, 2025
  • #51,263
Ccfcisparks said:
Are you surprised
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Not overly
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • May 25, 2025
  • #51,264
Nick said:
So the point is something has increased in value?
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I think the point is the rise in house prices relative to wages, which isn’t a shocking concept
 
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PVA

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  • May 25, 2025
  • #51,265
Ccfcisparks said:
I think the point is the rise in house prices relative to wages, which isn’t a shocking concept
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Apparently it's quite a difficult concept.
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 25, 2025
  • #51,266
MalcSB said:
Are you really sure about that?
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Yes.
 

mmttww

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  • May 25, 2025
  • #51,267
MalcSB said:
Do you need an £800k house?
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My dad worked at a Ford foundry and was able to buy a house in the mid 90s on just his wages that would be worth about that figure today. No one doing a similar job today could afford to buy anything close to that. If you can't understand or accept that point, anything you post on the subject is a waste of time.
 
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SBT

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  • May 25, 2025
  • #51,268
MalcSB said:
Do you need an £800k house?
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Are you sure this is a game that, as a pensioner, you want to play?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 25, 2025
  • #51,269
shmmeee said:
Well that says $250m but he did mean billion.
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That’s what I assume
 

Grendel

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  • May 25, 2025
  • #51,270
mmttww said:
My dad worked at a Ford foundry and was able to buy a house in the mid 90s on just his wages that would be worth about that figure today. No one doing a similar job today could afford to buy anything close to that. If you can't understand or accept that point, anything you post on the subject is a waste of time.
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I couldn’t - all I could afford was a semi detached having already had negative equity on a small flat purchased In 1990
 
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wingy

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  • May 25, 2025
  • #51,271
It was corrupted ages ago, creative accounting, Interest only, that scheme that evades me, something to do with de something to do with pension plan that went south,.
We've had all that growth but where has it got us, to a worse environment but at Equality, and now well.
 

MalcSB

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  • May 26, 2025
  • #51,272
PVA said:
Missing the point again.
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Is it? If you don’t need a house and land of that size, asking if you need a house of that price is hardly missing the point. Doesn’t suit your agenda though, does it?
 
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PVA

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  • May 26, 2025
  • #51,273
MalcSB said:
Is it? If you don’t need a house and land of that size, asking if you need a house of that price is hardly missing the point. Doesn’t suit your agenda though, does it?
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Still missing it.

It's not whether anyone needs it. I don't think anyone needs an acre of land, but we'd all like it. The point is that it's about 5 times more expensive relative to wages now (for any house, not just one with loads of land).
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 26, 2025
  • #51,274
wingy said:
It was corrupted ages ago, creative accounting, Interest only, that scheme that evades me, something to do with de something to do with pension plan that went south,.
We've had all that growth but where has it got us, to a worse environment but at Equality, and now well.
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Endowment scheme
 
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Grendel

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  • May 26, 2025
  • #51,275
PVA said:
Still missing it.

It's not whether anyone needs it. I don't think anyone needs an acre of land, but we'd all like it. The point is that it's about 5 times more expensive relative to wages now (for any house, not just one with loads of land).
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The average house price was 4 times more than the average wage in 1990. So what you are describing was unobtainable to most then as it is now
 
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