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chiefdave

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  • Yesterday at 3:31 PM
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shmmeee said:
We really just need to bite the bullet, raise taxes and sort this stuff. I dread to think what some people I know in their mid forties with zero savings or pension contributions or property are going to do in twenty years time.
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And that generation are more aware of what is coming up. The generation following them seem to largely have a I won't be able to save enough or put enough in a pension so why bother attitude.

On the one hand understandable but if we don't get to grips with things a huge problem down the line.

I know it's a very sensitive subject but we really need to move faster with the right to die with dignity. Every relative I talk to at my dad's care home says the same thing, that their relative would hate the situation they are in, but there's no other option. Not sure I see much upside to creating suffering, draining family finances, creating huge debt and spending thousands of taxpayers money to keep people alive with zero quality of life.
 

SomersetSB

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  • Yesterday at 9:44 PM
  • #50,927
How did Khan get a ticket for the cup final, not sure he liked football .
Anyway here’s the odds for the next PM
 

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shmmeee

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  • Yesterday at 9:51 PM
  • #50,928
SomersetSB said:
How did Khan get a ticket for the cup final, not sure he liked football .
Anyway here’s the odds for the next PM
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Are you seriously asking how the Mayor of London got a ticket to the FA Cup final?
 
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chiefdave

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  • Yesterday at 10:18 PM
  • #50,929
SomersetSB said:
Anyway here’s the odds for the next PM
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fuck me, that list is depressing
 

SomersetSB

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  • Yesterday at 10:19 PM
  • #50,930
shmmeee said:
Are you seriously asking how the Mayor of London got a ticket to the FA Cup final?
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He didn’t look interested to me, why didn’t he give it to charity?
 

SomersetSB

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  • Yesterday at 10:21 PM
  • #50,931
chiefdave said:
fuck me, that list is depressing
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Who else is there?
 

shmmeee

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  • Yesterday at 10:22 PM
  • #50,932
SomersetSB said:
He didn’t look interested to me, why didn’t he give it to charity?
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Why should he?

Ges mayor of one of the major cities on the planet it’s a fucking corpo ticket at Wembley if it’s not for him who the fuck is it for?

People so desperate to be offended.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Yesterday at 10:23 PM
  • #50,933
chiefdave said:
fuck me, that list is depressing
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This happens once a cycle. People forget how betting markets work and that the current PM can’t be the next PM. I’d be seriously worried if I were Badenoch that her odds are the same as someone never likely to be PM.
 

The Philosopher

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  • Yesterday at 10:38 PM
  • #50,934
shmmeee said:
This happens once a cycle. People forget how betting markets work and that the current PM can’t be the next PM. I’d be seriously worried if I were Badenoch that her odds are the same as someone never likely to be PM.
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Yes, Kemi isn’t cutting through.

The next by-election (Ipswich?) will be telling if a Tory seat flips to Reform.

There’s talk of wheeling out Boris, but again, I think that that’d be an incorrect read of the room.

In 2019 Farage wasn’t in Westminster and now he is.

At some point there may be defections from Tory - Reform. That’ll be the pivot point.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Yesterday at 10:43 PM
  • #50,935
The Philosopher said:
At some point there may be defections from Tory - Reform.
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What number party will you be on when you make the leap? 4?
 
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chiefdave

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  • Yesterday at 10:58 PM
  • #50,936
shmmeee said:
This happens once a cycle. People forget how betting markets work and that the current PM can’t be the next PM. I’d be seriously worried if I were Badenoch that her odds are the same as someone never likely to be PM.
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Can't imagine her still being leader by the next election, she's fucking useless. Gets absolutely done by Starmer every week at PMQs and he isn't exactly great at it.
 

shmmeee

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  • Yesterday at 11:03 PM
  • #50,937
chiefdave said:
Can't imagine her still being leader by the next election, she's fucking useless. Gets absolutely done by Starmer every week at PMQs and he isn't exactly great at it.
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I think the Tories are done. Which frankly is far more interesting as historically the most successful political party on the planet. Why go for Reform light when you’ve got Reform? Not sure what space they occupy. Funny that Brexit has killed them when it was supposed to save them.

Badenoch is awful, but Jenrick would be the same, I couldn’t even name you another Tory it might be.
 

shmmeee

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  • Yesterday at 11:07 PM
  • #50,938
The Philosopher said:
Yes, Kemi isn’t cutting through.

The next by-election (Ipswich?) will be telling if a Tory seat flips to Reform.

There’s talk of wheeling out Boris, but again, I think that that’d be an incorrect read of the room.

In 2019 Farage wasn’t in Westminster and now he is.

At some point there may be defections from Tory - Reform. That’ll be the pivot point.
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The only space for them I see is a centre right party which doesn’t really exist and they don’t have the talent to pull off anyway. I’d expect to see the more headbanger types like Braverman defect and most of the rest of their seats go Lib Dem or Reform. Only five years ago people were talking about Boris being unstoppable and dominating politics for a generation. Fascinating how things change. Will be interesting to see what the new split is. I don’t think on the left you’ve got the numbers for a corbynite version of Reform, someone’s got to be the sensible party. But you can’t sustain three parties in this system.
 

SomersetSB

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  • Today at 12:07 AM
  • #50,939
shmmeee said:
Why should he?

Ges mayor of one of the major cities on the planet it’s a fucking corpo ticket at Wembley if it’s not for him who the fuck is it for?

People so desperate to be offended.
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Be the big man and give it away, he’d be more respected don’t you think? Good headlines for him?
 
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