Do you want to discuss boring politics? (22 Viewers)

chiefdave · May 17, 2025

shmmeee said:
We really just need to bite the bullet, raise taxes and sort this stuff. I dread to think what some people I know in their mid forties with zero savings or pension contributions or property are going to do in twenty years time.

And that generation are more aware of what is coming up. The generation following them seem to largely have a I won't be able to save enough or put enough in a pension so why bother attitude.

On the one hand understandable but if we don't get to grips with things a huge problem down the line.

I know it's a very sensitive subject but we really need to move faster with the right to die with dignity. Every relative I talk to at my dad's care home says the same thing, that their relative would hate the situation they are in, but there's no other option. Not sure I see much upside to creating suffering, draining family finances, creating huge debt and spending thousands of taxpayers money to keep people alive with zero quality of life.

SomersetSB · May 17, 2025

How did Khan get a ticket for the cup final, not sure he liked football .
Anyway here’s the odds for the next PM

shmmeee · May 17, 2025

SomersetSB said:
How did Khan get a ticket for the cup final, not sure he liked football .
Anyway here’s the odds for the next PM

Are you seriously asking how the Mayor of London got a ticket to the FA Cup final?

chiefdave · May 17, 2025

SomersetSB said:
Anyway here’s the odds for the next PM

fuck me, that list is depressing

SomersetSB · May 17, 2025

shmmeee said:
Are you seriously asking how the Mayor of London got a ticket to the FA Cup final?

He didn’t look interested to me, why didn’t he give it to charity?

SomersetSB · May 17, 2025

chiefdave said:
fuck me, that list is depressing

Who else is there?

shmmeee · May 17, 2025

SomersetSB said:
He didn’t look interested to me, why didn’t he give it to charity?

Why should he?

Ges mayor of one of the major cities on the planet it’s a fucking corpo ticket at Wembley if it’s not for him who the fuck is it for?

People so desperate to be offended.

shmmeee · May 17, 2025

chiefdave said:
fuck me, that list is depressing

This happens once a cycle. People forget how betting markets work and that the current PM can’t be the next PM. I’d be seriously worried if I were Badenoch that her odds are the same as someone never likely to be PM.

The Philosopher · May 17, 2025

shmmeee said:
This happens once a cycle. People forget how betting markets work and that the current PM can’t be the next PM. I’d be seriously worried if I were Badenoch that her odds are the same as someone never likely to be PM.

Yes, Kemi isn’t cutting through.

The next by-election (Ipswich?) will be telling if a Tory seat flips to Reform.

There’s talk of wheeling out Boris, but again, I think that that’d be an incorrect read of the room.

In 2019 Farage wasn’t in Westminster and now he is.

At some point there may be defections from Tory - Reform. That’ll be the pivot point.

Sick Boy · May 17, 2025

The Philosopher said:
At some point there may be defections from Tory - Reform.

What number party will you be on when you make the leap? 4?

chiefdave · May 17, 2025

shmmeee said:
This happens once a cycle. People forget how betting markets work and that the current PM can’t be the next PM. I’d be seriously worried if I were Badenoch that her odds are the same as someone never likely to be PM.

Can't imagine her still being leader by the next election, she's fucking useless. Gets absolutely done by Starmer every week at PMQs and he isn't exactly great at it.

shmmeee · May 17, 2025

chiefdave said:
Can't imagine her still being leader by the next election, she's fucking useless. Gets absolutely done by Starmer every week at PMQs and he isn't exactly great at it.

I think the Tories are done. Which frankly is far more interesting as historically the most successful political party on the planet. Why go for Reform light when you’ve got Reform? Not sure what space they occupy. Funny that Brexit has killed them when it was supposed to save them.

Badenoch is awful, but Jenrick would be the same, I couldn’t even name you another Tory it might be.

shmmeee · May 17, 2025

The Philosopher said:
Yes, Kemi isn’t cutting through.

The next by-election (Ipswich?) will be telling if a Tory seat flips to Reform.

There’s talk of wheeling out Boris, but again, I think that that’d be an incorrect read of the room.

In 2019 Farage wasn’t in Westminster and now he is.

At some point there may be defections from Tory - Reform. That’ll be the pivot point.

The only space for them I see is a centre right party which doesn’t really exist and they don’t have the talent to pull off anyway. I’d expect to see the more headbanger types like Braverman defect and most of the rest of their seats go Lib Dem or Reform. Only five years ago people were talking about Boris being unstoppable and dominating politics for a generation. Fascinating how things change. Will be interesting to see what the new split is. I don’t think on the left you’ve got the numbers for a corbynite version of Reform, someone’s got to be the sensible party. But you can’t sustain three parties in this system.

SomersetSB · May 18, 2025

shmmeee said:
Why should he?

Ges mayor of one of the major cities on the planet it’s a fucking corpo ticket at Wembley if it’s not for him who the fuck is it for?

People so desperate to be offended.

Be the big man and give it away, he’d be more respected don’t you think? Good headlines for him?

Sick Boy · May 18, 2025

SomersetSB said:
Be the big man and give it away, he’d be more respected don’t you think? Good headlines for him?

No one would care and it’s a non-story anyway.

PVA · May 18, 2025

SomersetSB said:
Be the big man and give it away, he’d be more respected don’t you think? Good headlines for him?

Good headlines? I can't think of a less interesting headline than 'Khan gives away Wembley ticket'

Grendel · May 18, 2025

SomersetSB said:
Be the big man and give it away, he’d be more respected don’t you think? Good headlines for him?

Hes a tosser - giving a ticket away won’t change that

shmmeee · May 18, 2025

SomersetSB said:
Be the big man and give it away, he’d be more respected don’t you think? Good headlines for him?

More respected by people like you who moan at him constantly over nothing? It’s not likely is it.

I’m far more bothered by sponsors getting tickets and the like than the mayor of the city of one of the clubs playing FFS.

There’s a British Asian mayor in our capital and he’s relatively popular with the population of our capital. I’m afraid you’re just going to have to lump it.

SBT · May 18, 2025

Why do people who don’t live in London get so wound up by Sadiq Khan?

Captain Dart · May 18, 2025

SomersetSB said:
How did Khan get a ticket for the cup final, not sure he liked football .
Anyway here’s the odds for the next PM

Andy Burnham will be mortified that he doesn't feature.

chiefdave · May 18, 2025

Got to be honest. In my list of concerns in politics someone in a top position going to the cup final in an official capacity doesn't feature.

RegTheDonk · May 18, 2025

Captain Dart said:
Andy Burnham will be mortified that he doesn't feature.

Bumped into Andy Street when we played Luton, didn't think to ask if he'd paid for his ticket. Referred to us a "you" so presume he was on a freebie.

MalcSB · May 18, 2025

shmmeee said:
We really just need to bite the bullet, raise taxes and sort this stuff. I dread to think what some people I know in their mid forties with zero savings or pension contributions or property are going to do in twenty years time.

Will taking more tax of those people now actually help them in twenty years?

MalcSB · May 18, 2025

The Philosopher said:
Yes, Kemi isn’t cutting through.

The next by-election (Ipswich?) will be telling if a Tory seat flips to Reform.

There’s talk of wheeling out Boris, but again, I think that that’d be an incorrect read of the room.

In 2019 Farage wasn’t in Westminster and now he is.

At some point there may be defections from Tory - Reform. That’ll be the pivot point.

Reform saying they don’t want ex Tories.

MalcSB · May 18, 2025

SBT said:
Why do people who don’t live in London get so wound up by Sadiq Khan?

Because he is an arse and other cities seem to like copying his initiatives.

shmmeee · May 18, 2025

MalcSB said:
Will taking more tax of those people now actually help them in twenty years?

Yes. Assuming the taxes stay for twenty years. So bored of people pretending oh if we just sack a diversity officer on £19k a year we can afford the tens of billions we need to fix the system.

We need to grow up and accept broad based tax rises if we want things like health and social care.

Captain Dart · May 18, 2025

PMSL, no name as yet.

Senior Tory embroiled in 'furry' sex scandal

The politician accidentally sent a photograph of himself dressed as a dog being led on a leash to a group of colleagues on WhatsApp.

www.dailymail.co.uk

SBT · May 18, 2025

MalcSB said:
Because he is an arse and other cities seem to like copying his initiatives.

Like what initiatives?

The Philosopher · May 18, 2025

shmmeee said:
The only space for them I see is a centre right party which doesn’t really exist and they don’t have the talent to pull off anyway. I’d expect to see the more headbanger types like Braverman defect and most of the rest of their seats go Lib Dem or Reform. Only five years ago people were talking about Boris being unstoppable and dominating politics for a generation. Fascinating how things change. Will be interesting to see what the new split is. I don’t think on the left you’ve got the numbers for a corbynite version of Reform, someone’s got to be the sensible party. But you can’t sustain three parties in this system.

Braverman will give it one more go at a leadership bid before jumping. Her husband is a Reform member; it’s not a huge leap of presumption as to where she’d go.

As for “the left” and Corbyn, he’s a symbol of the real divide of modern politics: Israel or Palestine

The Philosopher · May 18, 2025

MalcSB said:
Reform saying they don’t want ex Tories.

Andrea Jenkyns?

The Philosopher · May 18, 2025

Captain Dart said:
PMSL, no name as yet.

Senior Tory embroiled in 'furry' sex scandal

The politician accidentally sent a photograph of himself dressed as a dog being led on a leash to a group of colleagues on WhatsApp.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Jacob Rees-Dogg?
Liam Fox?
Steven Barclay (Bark-lay)

That’s all I got

Grendel · May 18, 2025

SBT said:
Why do people who don’t live in London get so wound up by Sadiq Khan?

So no one ever outside London got wound up by Boris Johnson when he was Mayor?

SBT · May 18, 2025

Grendel said:
So no one ever outside London got wound up by Boris Johnson when he was Mayor?

Also a little weird imo, although Johnson was obviously a much more prominent figure in national politics before he became mayor.

shmmeee · May 18, 2025

The Philosopher said:
Braverman will give it one more go at a leadership bid before jumping. Her husband is a Reform member; it’s not a huge leap of presumption as to where she’d go.

As for “the left” and Corbyn, he’s a symbol of the real divide of modern politics: Isreal or Palestine.

Is that “the real divide” outside of a few headbangy Americans?

SBT · May 18, 2025

The Philosopher said:
the real divide of modern politics: Isreal or Palestine.

If you genuinely thought it was this country’s defining political question I’d have at least expected you to be able to spell both sides correctly.

Do you want to discuss boring politics? (22 Viewers)

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Attachments

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Super Moderator

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Super Moderator

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Users who are viewing this thread

Privacy & Transparency

Privacy & Transparency