With 4 councils to finally declare, Labour have lost two-thirds of their councillors (down by 168 to 82). They haven't lost any because they lost most of them in 2021. They lost Durham to NOC in 2021, but were still by far the biggest group. They are now down to 4 councillors.It's not 'convenient', it's pretty clear from the results - the Reform gains correlate with Tory losses.
Reform have (at time of writing) gained 547 councillors, Tories have lost 531.
Nobody is saying this is a great result for Labour, but they haven't lost a single council (again, at time of writing).
So if you agree with him (which is no shock as you are a halfwit) then can you please tell us which "main labour councils" did labour stop from voting this year?
Newcastle?
Birmingham?
Manchester?
Leeds?
Islington?
Tower Hamlets?
Southwark?
Nope, instead it is apart from Thurrock they were Tory areas.
Also you point about Medway and Kent is frankly weird as if Angela Raynor was trying to fix the results then you would stop them from voting as they are likely to see large Reform gains?
You are arguing that it is bad that Labour agree to a number of councils requests to postpone their elections while at the same time saying it is bad they didn't postpone in other areas.
@Mucca Mad Boys
These are the councils who wanted to postpone their elections until next year but were told no
Cambridgeshire, Derbyshire, Devon, Gloucestershire, Hertfordshire, Kent, Lancashire, Leicestershire, Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire, Oxfordshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire and Worcestershire.
If the idea was to stop Labour loses then they would of agreed to postpone Councils like Lancashire, Leicestershire and Nottinghamshire.
In agreeing to postpone elections in East Sussex, West Sussex, Essex, Thurrock, Hampshire, the Isle of Wight, Norfolk, Suffolk and Surrey then have most likely protected tory councillors from Lib Dem and Reform challengers.
There's no reasonable argument to say Angela Raynor fixed anything, the evidence simply points the other way.
A witch hunt led by someone who wasn’t as impartial as was suggested, in Sue Gray. Assisted by a poisonous insider in Dominic. Cummings. Consuming beer and curry less heinous than not eating cake.lol
that is the funniest thing I read today
no one said how well tories done with Covid
tory downfall started with the witch-hunt of Boris
It's not 'convenient', it's pretty clear from the results - the Reform gains correlate with Tory losses.
Reform have (at time of writing) gained 547 councillors, Tories have lost 531.
Nobody is saying this is a great result for Labour, but they haven't lost a single council (again, at time of writing).
Sorry I meant DerbyshireDid you know? That you can disagree with someone without being nasty…
Most of the places you mention are voting in 2026?
Kent is about as Tory as you can get so refusing that one particular postponement strikes me as odd. If you believe the Government didn’t want to mitigate any blows from the elections, it strikes me as naive.
I just point out it was odd to reject a postponement for KCC because they specifically asked to postpone their council elections.
Lancashire - did not request a postponement
Leicestershire - only 2 Labour councillors going into polling
Nottinghamshire - also a Tory majority area
You coming after me like this is ironic on three counts. 1) the areas you mention weren’t Labour run 2) the big Labour run councils don’t have elections this year and 3) the Reform and the Lib Dem argument is that Labour and Conservative from ‘denying democracy’ precisely because the examples you used where Reform and Lib Dem would eviscerate the Tories between them.
It’s all white noise to me because I don’t particularly look into local elections too much. It’s a good chance for people to protest vote and send a message to the main parties. If they don’t heed the warnings, they’ve been warned for the next General Election.
The results are terrible for both Tory and Labour. No amount of spin changes that.
That was great for Labour but I thought it would be much, much worse than that so far.
The vaccination was novel, it’s called research and development. Was it dangerous per se?They did a terrible job, blowing half a trillion on ridiculous unneeded measures and inflicting a novel and dangerous injection onto people.
I apologise that was a typo, it is meant to say "that wasn't great for Labour".That was great for Labour …
I apologise that was a typo, it is meant to say "that wasn't great for Labour".
Sorry fella, you'll have to delete that from you spreadsheet
It’s not even mid term for another 12 months, is it?Thats not a typical (midterm) local election result
To be fair people do use that term to describe non by elections i.e. local elections that fall in between general elections.It’s not even mid term for another 12 months, is it?
And miss people making you look silly? Nah, I've just learnt no to reply to you.I thought you had me on ignore?
The vaccination was novel, it’s called research and development. Was it dangerous per se?
It wasn’t unleashed on the world with no previous trials. What are your scientific credentials out of interest?So your idea of responsible is to experiment on half the planet.
You haven't even listened to the podcast I posted, there hasn't been time.
Come back after you at least give your confirmation bias a jolt.
Sorry I meant Derbyshire
Frankly why should I be nice to some who is basically making up bullshit to defend their liking of a far right conspiracy post.
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You coming after me like this is ironic on three counts. 1) the areas you mention weren’t Labour run 2) the big Labour run councils don’t have elections this year and 3) the Reform and the Lib Dem argument is that Labour and Conservative from ‘denying democracy’ precisely because the examples you used where Reform and Lib Dem would eviscerate the Tories between them."
This doesn't matter, the evidence just isn't there for what you claim.
I have also not in anyway claimed anything was good for Labour so why mention that?
As I said, if you want people on here and in life to take you seriously then don't like far right nonsense.
You are basically drowning not waving trying to prove something that was in the post you liked.
Despite the correction, Derbyshire was also a Tory run council since 2017…
We’ve gone down a rabbit role, the essential point why I liked the post was the rebuttal to this idea that Labour didn’t have a bad election night.
They’ve lost support up and down the country and if they’d held support from the GE, they’d be winning councils like Durham back from NOC because the incumbents were Tories who’s support has collapsed.
If you think the Government of the day try to manage the news cycle, power to you. Each major party tries to redraw boundary lines to favour them in the next general election so it’s not really an outlandish idea that it may be convenient to defer council elections where you’d expect to get a trouncing.
They’ve lost 7 out of every 10 seats they were defending
Once again you have missed the point.Despite the correction, Derbyshire was also a Tory run council since 2017…
We’ve gone down a rabbit role, the essential point why I liked the post was the rebuttal to this idea that Labour didn’t have a bad election night.
They’ve lost support up and down the country and if they’d held support from the GE, they’d be winning councils like Durham back from NOC because the incumbents were Tories who’s support has collapsed.
If you think the Government of the day try to manage the news cycle, power to you. Each major party tries to redraw boundary lines to favour them in the next general election so it’s not really an outlandish idea that it may be convenient to defer council elections where you’d expect to get a trouncing.
Once again you have missed the point.
1) The post you liked claimed that Labour had postponed the votes in their "main" councils. That is a lie.
2) It doesn't matter how many seats Labour were defending, If they really want to fix any results there were better councils for them to postpone so I thank you for proving my point.
3) Why are you still claiming I think the results are in anyway good for Labour? We have already established I don't.
4) Who has mentioned electoral boundaries? Has anyone mentioned these?
So, are you going to admit that the post you liked was factually bullshit? That is the point here.
Oh once again you pretend that the post made that post separately from the basic lie that followed itNo because I’ve given the reason why I liked it. It’s not untrue to state they’ve lost many councillors whilst many of the areas they have councillors haven’t had elections. It’s definitely mitigated their losses.
Point 4 was an example of how the governing party tries to manipulate the system in their favour. They don’t explicitly state that they’re cynically redrawing the boundaries to maximise their voter in each constituency.
Despite the petty insults, enjoy playing your guitar.
Err….
I just don’t get itErr….
No.
I’m still Tory federation chairman up here, for my sins.
Reform are taking the Conservative Party apart. The views espoused by the DT-R poster are widely held. I’m not going to comment either way other than that.
I will say, there is a revolt against suppression of patriotism going on now.
Humans are tribal.
Here’s a clear point:
Our tribe wears sky blue and eats batches. When on holiday, we are more likely to talk to a stranger wearing a sky blue shirt than a claret-and-blue one. Right? Obviously. Doesn’t mean we will throw a paella at the Villa fan.
People should be allowed to be patriotic about their own tribe. We all cheer on our England team no matter the colour of the player’s skin. You could call that tribalism or patriotism or even nationalism (not to be confused with ethno-nationalism).
To sneer at folks for objecting to people jumping the queue (which is what the majority of boat migrants are doing) is driving more and more to adopt the Reform party.
Let’s say Celtic and Rangers wanted a better life and the EFL announced tonight “we are placing them in the play offs with
Sheff U and Sunderland. Cov and Bristol, sorry chaps”. I’d wager we’d be upset. That isn’t racism, it’s just queue jumping and it’s unfair.
There are a lot of working class people who set their alarms for 6am who are struggling to get by who are upset at unfairness. To label them “stupid” or “cretins” or “racists” is plain sneering.
These people are, on these election results, possibly the silent majority.
Out of interest, how many times has he actually been to Clacton since he got elected? Has he ever done a surgery?I just don’t get it
Farage doesn’t give a shit about them as he’s proved time and time again
Once but he has a teamOut of interest, how many times has he actually been to Clacton since he got elected? Has he ever done a surgery?
Fabulous post !!Err….
No.
I’m still Tory federation chairman up here, for my sins.
Reform are taking the Conservative Party apart. The views espoused by the DT-R poster are widely held. I’m not going to comment either way other than that.
I will say, there is a revolt against suppression of patriotism going on now.
Humans are tribal.
Here’s a clear point:
Our tribe wears sky blue and eats batches. When on holiday, we are more likely to talk to a stranger wearing a sky blue shirt than a claret-and-blue one. Right? Obviously. Doesn’t mean we will throw a paella at the Villa fan.
People should be allowed to be patriotic about their own tribe. We all cheer on our England team no matter the colour of the player’s skin. You could call that tribalism or patriotism or even nationalism (not to be confused with ethno-nationalism).
To sneer at folks for objecting to people jumping the queue (which is what the majority of boat migrants are doing) is driving more and more to adopt the Reform party.
Let’s say Celtic and Rangers wanted a better life and the EFL announced tonight “we are placing them in the play offs with
Sheff U and Sunderland. Cov and Bristol, sorry chaps”. I’d wager we’d be upset. That isn’t racism, it’s just queue jumping and it’s unfair.
There are a lot of working class people who set their alarms for 6am who are struggling to get by who are upset at unfairness. To label them “stupid” or “cretins” or “racists” is plain sneering.
These people are, on these election results, possibly the silent majority.
I just wish they would direct their justified ire at the right people.Err….
No.
I’m still Tory federation chairman up here, for my sins.
Reform are taking the Conservative Party apart. The views espoused by the DT-R poster are widely held. I’m not going to comment either way other than that.
I will say, there is a revolt against suppression of patriotism going on now.
Humans are tribal.
Here’s a clear point:
Our tribe wears sky blue and eats batches. When on holiday, we are more likely to talk to a stranger wearing a sky blue shirt than a claret-and-blue one. Right? Obviously. Doesn’t mean we will throw a paella at the Villa fan.
People should be allowed to be patriotic about their own tribe. We all cheer on our England team no matter the colour of the player’s skin. You could call that tribalism or patriotism or even nationalism (not to be confused with ethno-nationalism).
To sneer at folks for objecting to people jumping the queue (which is what the majority of boat migrants are doing) is driving more and more to adopt the Reform party.
Let’s say Celtic and Rangers wanted a better life and the EFL announced tonight “we are placing them in the play offs with
Sheff U and Sunderland. Cov and Bristol, sorry chaps”. I’d wager we’d be upset. That isn’t racism, it’s just queue jumping and it’s unfair.
There are a lot of working class people who set their alarms for 6am who are struggling to get by who are upset at unfairness. To label them “stupid” or “cretins” or “racists” is plain sneering.
These people are, on these election results, possibly the silent majority.
Aren’t you an immigrant yourself?Fabulous post !!
Err no, we just come and go to Spain at the moment, so still make our money in the UK. How do you think we’ve been to so many City matches. We spend a lot of money in Spain, pay our non residents taxes, have health insurance, contribute to community charges etc . We take nothing only give and no we don’t rent out the place. Oh and we learnt the language. So no we’re not comparable to some of the people other posters are discussing! PUSBAren’t you an immigrant yourself?
There’s a lot of anger against second home owners and Airbnbs in places like Spain and Italy because of the impact they have on locals who are unable to buy houses due to the inflated prices.
What job do you do in Spain, out of interest? Presumably you’re paying taxes?
Wow that’s a surprise.Err no, we just come and go to Spain at the moment, so still make our money in the UK. How do you think we’ve been to so many City matches. We spend a lot of money in Spain, pay our non residents taxes, have health insurance, contribute to community charges etc . We take nothing only give and no we don’t rent out the place. Oh and we learnt the language. So no we’re not comparable to some of the people other posters are discussing! PUSB
Err….
No.
I’m still Tory federation chairman up here, for my sins.
Reform are taking the Conservative Party apart. The views espoused by the DT-R poster are widely held. I’m not going to comment either way other than that.
I will say, there is a revolt against suppression of patriotism going on now.
Humans are tribal.
Here’s a clear point:
Our tribe wears sky blue and eats batches. When on holiday, we are more likely to talk to a stranger wearing a sky blue shirt than a claret-and-blue one. Right? Obviously. Doesn’t mean we will throw a paella at the Villa fan.
People should be allowed to be patriotic about their own tribe. We all cheer on our England team no matter the colour of the player’s skin. You could call that tribalism or patriotism or even nationalism (not to be confused with ethno-nationalism).
To sneer at folks for objecting to people jumping the queue (which is what the majority of boat migrants are doing) is driving more and more to adopt the Reform party.
Let’s say Celtic and Rangers wanted a better life and the EFL announced tonight “we are placing them in the play offs with
Sheff U and Sunderland. Cov and Bristol, sorry chaps”. I’d wager we’d be upset. That isn’t racism, it’s just queue jumping and it’s unfair.
There are a lot of working class people who set their alarms for 6am who are struggling to get by who are upset at unfairness. To label them “stupid” or “cretins” or “racists” is plain sneering.
These people are, on these election results, possibly the silent majority.
Yeah, the likes of Farage would just widen that gap between the rich and poor and screw over ordinary people. He's made it quite clear that the NHS would be binned and farmers screwed over.I just wish they would direct their justified ire at the right people.
It’s not the fault of economic migrants or asylum seekers - it’s the fault of those that run our country and believe that profit is more valuable than any other measure of human activity.
There’s nothing more unpatriotic than stripping a country bare in the pursuit of hoarding money.
Yeah, the likes of Farage would just widen that gap between the rich and poor and screw over ordinary people. He's made it quite clear that the NHS would be binned and farmers screwed over.
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