Sky Blue Pete
Well-Known Member
Has it
Has itYes. Even this government promised to end the small boats scandal by ‘smashing the gangs’. This issue has actually got worse since Labour has come in.
I agreeI'm not sure they will be judged on if the councils work. If they fail they'll still blame the government for not allowing them to do what they want.
I'm trying to be positive and think that local elections are used for protest votes and it's far better that these nutters are put in now than in a GE. But part of me thinks it'll just give Reform this platform to make people think that they're a viable option for govt.
He speaks their language despite the fact he's another priviliged man with a career in the City. He even dresses like a landowner half the time.Assuming you’re right, how does that make him different from Starmer or Badenoch? Politicians by their nature are ‘in it’ for themselves.
Talk to working class people up and down the country, they identify with Farage because he speaks their language and is the strongest on the issues they care about.
Looking at how badly some of the councils are being run up and down the country, it can’t probably can’t get that much worse by voting Reform or Greens for arguments sake.
Because these people believe they 'know why' the country is 'turning to the pits'.Why do you think people are ‘dumb’?
the reason people are voting is because the country is turning to the pits and most people know why
Has it
Conveniently you ignore all the Labour losses too
He'll accuse you of living in a different world soonIt's not 'convenient', it's pretty clear from the results - the Reform gains correlate with Tory losses.
Reform have (at time of writing) gained 547 councillors, Tories have lost 531.
Nobody is saying this is a great result for Labour, but they haven't lost a single council (again, at time of writing).
Because these people believe they 'know why' the country is 'turning to the pits'.
And nothing to do with your hospital services being sold off to the highest bidder whilst the services are then degraded to their basic minimum to manufacture profit?No, it's about people's eyes finally being opened. It's about your gran not being able to put her heating on whilst the government pay hundreds of thousands putting Johnny foreigner in the ibis. It's about hospitals being over ran and months of waiting lists while Johnny foreigner who's paid nothing towards it is taking up a space in the queue.
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Interesting to see the Lib Dems win everything in Stratford which is about as blue as the seaBe interesting to see how reform run councils get on when they see it is less fighting them on the beaches and more fighting to get the bins collected
Also what do the tories do? They have tacked so hard to the right to try and fight off Reform at the expense of their traditional tory centre right. Do they keep tacking right or to they try to claw back the moderates?
Oh you’re just measuring the number of people who’ve come in across the channelYep, a quick google search confirms. It’s hit 10k already this year, a new record YoY.
Labour’s whole schtick was that they’re not the Tories and will make things better… The electorate was quickly cottoned onto the fact they’ll make things worse.
It's not 'convenient', it's pretty clear from the results - the Reform gains correlate with Tory losses.
Reform have (at time of writing) gained 547 councillors, Tories have lost 531.
Nobody is saying this is a great result for Labour, but they haven't lost a single council (again, at time of writing).
Oh you’re just measuring the number of people who’ve come in across the channel
Oh ok that’s not the only important figure or factor
he's a walking talking lesson on confirmation biasOh you’re just measuring the number of people who’ve come in across the channel
Oh ok that’s not the only important figure or factor
It's not 'convenient', it's pretty clear from the results - the Reform gains correlate with Tory losses.
Reform have (at time of writing) gained 547 councillors, Tories have lost 531.
Nobody is saying this is a great result for Labour, but they haven't lost a single council (again, at time of writing).
absolute nonsenseThey’ve lost over 150 councillors
Labour made sure their main councils didn’t go to vote because of a ‘reorganisation ’ and delayed by a year
@Mucca Mad Boys
You want to be taken seriously and then you like a post from GIMOC that is demonstrably untrue.
Once again you miss the point, he was saying that labour would have a lot more losses is because Labour stopped elections in their "main councils". That is what I pointed out you likedYou’re right, they’ve not lost 150 councillors… it’s 137 and voting is yet to end.
The only reason the results don’t look as bad on Labour is because their historically bad 2021 performance lead to a disproportionate amount of Tory wins.
If there was a general election tomorrow, there’d probably be a hung parliament which is itself a damning verdict on this Government.
You’d probably have a Lab-Lib coalition put against a Reform-ToryYou’re right, they’ve not lost 150 councillors… it’s 137 and voting is yet to end.
The only reason the results don’t look as bad on Labour is because their historically bad 2021 performance lead to a disproportionate amount of Tory wins.
If there was a general election tomorrow, there’d probably be a hung parliament which is itself a damning verdict on this Government.
Once again you miss the point, he was saying that labour would have a lot more losses is because Labour stopped elections in their "main councils". That is what I pointed out you liked
You are the poster boy for confirmation bias.
As I said you want so badly to be taken seriously and yet like easily provable lies and then when challenged post nonsense.
No you liked a post that said thisThe part I ‘liked’ about the post was about losing 150 councillors because the reply was to someone downplaying the impact of the results on Labour.
I'm not playing that game but here is a reasoned discussion of technical problems in the mRNA platform.Peer reviewed evidence? OK
A YouTube video, that's him toldI'm not playing that game but here is a reasoned discussion of technical problems in the mRNA platform.
Professor Bhattacharya is currently the Director of the US National Institutes of Health having stepped down from his post at Stanford to take the role.
I didn’t say people were dumb, I said we were told not to worry about Trumps apparent popularity as people wouldn’t be dumb enough to vote for him.Why do you think people are ‘dumb’?
No you liked a post that said this
"They’ve lost over 150 councillors
Labour made sure their main councils didn’t go to vote because of a ‘reorganisation ’ and delayed by a year"
There are not separate points, he is claiming that Labour loses would be much high than his already incorrect figure if they hadn't "made sure their main councils didn’t go to vote because of a ‘reorganisation ’ and delayed by a year" is is a pretty disgusting and easily provable lie.
So at best make sure you read what you are liking and try and stop your massive inbuilt confirmation bias from only noticing the bits that agree with your already formed views.
You would end up liking untrue conspiracy theories then.
So if you agree with him (which is no shock as you are a halfwit) then can you please tell us which "main labour councils" did labour stop from voting this year?You are projecting here about confirmation biases. Anyway, you and GIMOC to battle this one out.
From my perspective, had the whole country gone to the polls, Labour would be facing much worse headlines today. Even today has seen them fall below the Greens in number of councillors.
It does seem convenient that the government chose the councils that were being reorganised and Angela Rayner herself got to decide which council elections to allow a postponement… Given that she rejected requests from Kent & Medway councils for postponed elections.
I am 100% sure that postponement request would have been rejected even if the KCC was a Labour stronghold…
Kent County Council to request elections delay for devolution - BBC News
At the meeting on Thursday, the cabinet went in favour of the government's Devolution White Paper.www.bbc.co.uk
And Reform would do the same schtick ramped up to 11 and have similar results.Yep, a quick google search confirms. It’s hit 10k already this year, a new record YoY.
Labour’s whole schtick was that they’re not the Tories and will make things better… The electorate was quickly cottoned onto the fact they’ll make things worse.
Congratulations!we all know why.
just some bury their heads in the sand
The same Health Dept run by a known vaccine sceptic...?I'm not playing that game but here is a reasoned discussion of technical problems in the mRNA platform.
Professor Bhattacharya is currently the Director of the US National Institutes of Health having stepped down from his post at Stanford to take the role.
I understand the science and trust both the literature on vaccine safety and the people who spend their lives working on them.I'm not playing that game but here is a reasoned discussion of technical problems in the mRNA platform.
Professor Bhattacharya is currently the Director of the US National Institutes of Health having stepped down from his post at Stanford to take the role.
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