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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (20 Viewers)

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,341
Grendel said:
We get the PM the public want - as well as the constitution- you really need to understand that
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Yes because we are morphing into a tribute act to the USA where they really do elect a person to lead rather than a government. Turning elections into personality contests is the whole problem
 
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Grendel

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,342
Brighton Sky Blue said:
People aren’t oblivious to the reality they’re just frustrated by it. Wales looks more appealing by the minute, never thought I’d say that
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Im sure as an independent country it would really be appealing
 

Grendel

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,343
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yes because we are morphing into a tribute act to the USA where they really do elect a person to lead rather than a government. Turning elections into personality contests is the whole problem
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I don’t see it as a problem and it’s been that way for 50 years
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,344
Grendel said:
Im sure as an independent country it would really be appealing
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They rewarded Drakeford for doing his job properly despite him having zero charisma or personal charm. The UK is on borrowed time as a state anyway, it’ll probably be in 4 separate states in my lifetime
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,345
Grendel said:
I don’t see it as a problem and it’s been that way for 50 years
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I do and am pretty sick of it
 

Grendel

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,346
Brighton Sky Blue said:
They rewarded Drakeford for doing his job properly despite him having zero charisma or personal charm. The UK is on borrowed time as a state anyway, it’ll probably be in 4 separate states in my lifetime
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more rubbish
 

Grendel

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,347
For context

How well is Keir Starmer doing as Labour leader?

Do you think Keir Starmer is doing well or badly as leader of the Labour party?
yougov.co.uk
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,348
Grendel said:
more rubbish
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It isn’t though.

Northern Ireland has been properly shat on by Brexit and the DUP look like they will be out at the next set of elections. Support for a united Ireland there is the highest it’s ever been-only a few decades away.

Scotland will keep electing SNP governments because the unionist vote is split. When one of these two take the plunge the other would follow soon after. Really then what is keeping Wales attached to the permanent Tory rump that is England?

Hopefully it happens while still in my working life
 

Grendel

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,349
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It isn’t though.

Northern Ireland has been properly shat on by Brexit and the DUP look like they will be out at the next set of elections. Support for a united Ireland there is the highest it’s ever been-only a few decades away.

Scotland will keep electing SNP governments because the unionist vote is split. When one of these two take the plunge the other would follow soon after. Really then what is keeping Wales attached to the permanent Tory rump that is England?

Hopefully it happens while still in my working life
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It is rubbish. Wales don’t want independence that’s why they don’t oddly vote for the independent choice

Not all SNP voters vote for independence and when the economic scrutiny during a campaign in Scotland starts again sturgeon and her mob will flounder
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,350
Grendel said:
It is rubbish. Wales don’t want independence that’s why they don’t oddly vote for the independent choice

Not all SNP voters vote for independence and when the economic scrutiny during a campaign in Scotland starts again sturgeon and her mob will flounder
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They don’t vote for it now. In a scenario where it’s just them and England left? I never knew a single SNP supporter who was opposed to independence
 
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PVA

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,351
'Empty rhetoric'

Good grief.

I wonder what Grendel thinks will happen to him if he doesn't defend our Dear Leader.
 

Ian1779

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,352
dubed said:
Until they have dismantled Momentum they will never win, In fact I think they're finished without PR,
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Momentum is no more of an issue than Mandelson.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,353
Grendel said:
Yawn - he’s not going to be locked up. Should the EU leaders be locked up for their shambolic vaccine strategy and incompetent procurement process? People on here at the time were slaughtering this government for not joining that and going it alone.

That went well
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No more than the head of a business that has flagrantly flouted H&S laws and cut corners resulting in workers being injured or becoming ill. It's called accountability. Maybe locking up is a bit far, but compensation for those involved (with culpability) , removal from office and never being allowed to hold such a position of authority again.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,354
Grendel said:
We get the PM the public want - as well as the constitution- you really need to understand that
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Well if that's the case isn't it about time we separated the personality of voting for a PM from the policy involved in governing? If it's just a popularity contest why both with any policy at all.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,355
Grendel said:
It is rubbish. Wales don’t want independence that’s why they don’t oddly vote for the independent choice

Not all SNP voters vote for independence and when the economic scrutiny during a campaign in Scotland starts again sturgeon and her mob will flounder
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When the economic scrutiny was done for Brexit it was shown to be a shitshow. Remind me how that vote went?
 
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Grendel

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,356
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Well if that's the case isn't it about time we separated the personality of voting for a PM from the policy involved in governing? If it's just a popularity contest why both with any policy at all.
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The public decide
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,357
I also see we've had a hasty press release that we're going to build a new naval vessel. Something to make sure the flag wavers are happy. HMS Deflection.
 
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Grendel

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,358
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
When the economic scrutiny was done for Brexit it was shown to be a shitshow. Remind me how that vote went?
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It wasn’t despite the lies of immediate economic earthquake the day after the vote was announced - also as Sturgeon was so opposed to Brexit her problem if she then applies the same argument to leaving the union

We should allow it but not on timings just to suit her and make the country aware what terms they will go on - WTO and immediate currency withdrawal
 

Grendel

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,359
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I also see we've had a hasty press release that we're going to build a new naval vessel. Something to make sure the flag wavers are happy. HMS Deflection.
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Deflect from what?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,360
Grendel said:
It wasn’t despite the lies of immediate economic earthquake the day after the vote was announced - also as Sturgeon was so opposed to Brexit her problem if she then applies the same argument to leaving the union

We should allow it but not on timings just to suit her and make the country aware what terms they will go on - WTO and immediate currency withdrawal
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So the total opposite of Brexit then?
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,361
Grendel said:
Deflect from what?
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Which hole have you been hiding in?

Same reason Boris got married in a massive rush. Deflect from Cummings.
 
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Grendel

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,362
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
So the total opposite of Brexit then?
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In terms of Brexit both parties needed to negotiate as the impact on the Eu budget was substantial

In this case we don’t need to. Tell Scotland it’s pound gone and WTO on day one and immediate fund withdrawal

Watch Krankie squirm
 

Grendel

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,363
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Which hole have you been hiding in?

Same reason Boris got married in a massive rush. Deflect from Cummings.
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No one cares about Cummings who back him anyway
 
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wingy

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,364
Grendel said:
No one cares about Cummings who back him anyway
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Polling suggests it's stuck for this week anyway.

Most of the points he made were referenced/questioned in this thread or the other one , about Foreign office , mendacious Matt ,Shapps transport dept advice etc , slow off the mark, disregard for the scientific advice for the circuit breaker where five weeks elapsed before the tiered preference of the PM left London in tier 2 while most of the country was in 3, notwithstanding the failure to react to the situation in India adequately now risking vaccine efficacy, opening up,.
The loopholes in international travel and failed quarantine procedures.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,365
Grendel said:
10 countries in Europe have worse deaths per one hundred thousand than the U.K. should those leaders be in the dock as well

I’ve actually always scoffed at nonsense like dragging Blair to The Hague for war crimes - it’s pathetic and I’d say the same regarding Corbyn
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Rubbish no you wouldn’t
 
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PVA

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,366
As for other countries in Europe, or anywhere in the world for that matter, having a higher deaths per population figure - how many of them have the benefit of being an island?

An incredible advantage that we absolutely fucked. If you did a league table of island nations only it does not reflect well on the UK.
 

Grendel

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,367
PVA said:
As for other countries in Europe, or anywhere in the world for that matter, having a higher deaths per population figure - how many of them have the benefit of being an island?

An incredible advantage that we absolutely fucked. If you did a league table of island nations only it does not reflect well on the UK.
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lol
 
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PVA

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,368
Good one.

I thought you'd blocked me anyway. Seeing as you're reading my posts again, last time I'll ask - is Islamophobia a bad thing?
 

Grendel

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,369
PVA goes the full Farage

Redirect Notice
 
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PVA

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,370
Literally cannot bring yourself to say Islamophobia is bad. Absolute state of you.

Also that article has absolutely zero relevance to my point about our Covid response.
 
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wingy

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,371
Grendel said:
PVA goes the full Farage

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TBF that is now the party in power is it not?
Completely morphed, expulsion of members on the remain side etc.
 

Grendel

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,372
wingy said:
TBF that is now the party in power is it not?
Completely morphed, expulsion of members on the remain side etc.
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The island mentality and stopping freedom of movement is what PVA sees as a benefit.
 
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PVA

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,373
Stopping freedom of movement during a global pandemic, yes.

Outside of a pandemic I want freedom of movement, you don't.
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,374
So @PVA is against women’s rights and freedom of movement? Wow
 
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PVA

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  • May 30, 2021
  • #4,375
Boosh said:
So @PVA is against women’s rights and freedom of movement? Wow
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Quite the opposite on both counts old chum.

In the EU thread Grendel told me I'm racist because I'm pro freedom of movement and he's not racist because he's anti freedom of movement
 
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