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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (25 Viewers)

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David O'Day

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  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #351
chiefdave said:
When there’s no comeback on MPs for talking complete BS in parliament why should Raynor be pulled up for telling the truth?
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She said that at the time, the scumbag was lying about her
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #352
fernandopartridge said:
I see the vote on feeding poor kids over the summer was defeated. The same deluded Tory voting fuckwits who say "Why can't we be like Sweden?" in relation to Covid can't see the link.
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They seemed to spend all afternoon taking great glee in blaming the previous administration and then voted it down. Self defeating, all they’ve done is take ownership of it 100%.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 21, 2020
  • #353
where's the boris fanboys these days?
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Oct 22, 2020
  • #354
Even a total git can be right occasionally.

 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 22, 2020
  • #355
I don’t care how good a superforcaster you’re supposed to be, you have to be pants on head stupid to plan a strategy that involves starving kids at Christmas during a pandemic and saying it’s to teach their lazy parents a lesson.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 22, 2020
  • #356
shmmeee said:
I don’t care how good a superforcaster you’re supposed to be, you have to be pants on head stupid to plan a strategy that involves starving kids at Christmas during a pandemic and saying it’s to teach their lazy parents a lesson.
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cummings isn't a superforcaster
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 22, 2020
  • #357
David O'Day said:
cummings isn't a superforcaster
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Billy Big Brain, whatever his rep, he’s proving increasingly shit at politics when he steps outside his culture war bubble.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 22, 2020
  • #358
shmmeee said:
Billy Big Brain, whatever his rep, he’s proving increasingly shit at politics when he steps outside his culture war bubble.
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Yeah, he's not recognising a changed mood amongst people either. He'd have probably got away with this earlier in the year tbh.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 22, 2020
  • #359
shmmeee said:
Billy Big Brain, whatever his rep, he’s proving increasingly shit at politics when he steps outside his culture war bubble.
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He’s only there to con the poor at elections rather than to take food away
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 22, 2020
  • #360
shmmeee said:
Billy Big Brain, whatever his rep, he’s proving increasingly shit at politics when he steps outside his culture war bubble.
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It won't matter.
You only have to read some of the sycophantic drivel from the cap doffers on here to realise he'll get away with it
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Oct 22, 2020
  • #361
Deleted member 5849 said:
It won't matter.
You only have to read some of the sycophantic drivel from the cap doffers on here to realise he'll get away with it
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nO tHeY aRE dOinG a REaLLy GooD jOb, wHo CoUld hAvE pRedicTeD tHis
**licks boots whilst typing**
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 22, 2020
  • #362
Unprecedented
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Oct 22, 2020
  • #363
wingy said:
Unprecedented
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Unprecedented attribution of a quote to me!

Not that I disagree with it...
 
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Jamesimus

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 22, 2020
  • #364
Deleted member 5849 said:
Unprecedented attribution of a quote to me!

Not that I disagree with it...
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I don't know how that happened, apologies!
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 22, 2020
  • #365
Deleted member 5849 said:
Even a total git can be right occasionally.

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Says something when even Nigel Farage gets it.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Oct 22, 2020
  • #366
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 22, 2020
  • #367
skybluetony176 said:
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I would have though those dedicated Christians Rees Mogg and Duncan Smith would be up in arms about this?
Pair of fucking hypocrites.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 23, 2020
  • #368
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Oct 24, 2020
  • #369
On a purely objective level, for a government such as ours to vote down the free meals proposal, seems a massive own goal. On the one level they do have a point that it doesn't solve the root causes of poverty. However, the cost is relatively small compared to other spending

And... it's not like Johnson isn't above a bit of superficial opportunism! It seems that this is a (relatively cheap) way to get people onside, and allow them to point to how they do listen, and do look out for the needy. As it stands, they're alienating their new base, and many other areas besides, and for what? Again, the cost is relatively small compared to other bailouts they're handing out just at the moment.

It's not a wise move politically.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 24, 2020
  • #370
Deleted member 5849 said:
On a purely objective level, for a government such as ours to vote down the free meals proposal, seems a massive own goal. On the one level they do have a point that it doesn't solve the root causes of poverty. However, the cost is relatively small compared to other spending

And... it's not like Johnson isn't above a bit of superficial opportunism! It seems that this is a (relatively cheap) way to get people onside, and allow them to point to how they do listen, and do look out for the needy. As it stands, they're alienating their new base, and many other areas besides, and for what? Again, the cost is relatively small compared to other bailouts they're handing out just at the moment.

It's not a wise move politically.
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What the need to do is incorporate schools as banks - they'll throw whatever money they want at them then and poor or reckless performance will be no barrier to the aid they can access.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 24, 2020
  • #371
Il never vote Conservative for the remainder of my living years from this point forward.. That's my political opinion... As you were.. PUSB
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 25, 2020
  • #372
Oh look, the Tories doing another uturn

Government reduces minimum salary for migrants to settle in UK

Rules which come into force in December quietly published on Thursday by Home Office
amp.theguardian.com
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 25, 2020
  • #373

‘Culture wars’ are fought by tiny minority – UK study

Report by the More in Common thinktank found that 12% of voters accounted for 50% of all social media users
www.theguardian.com

One for Schmmeee.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 25, 2020
  • #374
Labour are going to keep forcing votes on free school meals it seems, lets see how many times the tories can keep voting no
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 25, 2020
  • #375
David O'Day said:
Labour are going to keep forcing votes on free school meals it seems, lets see how many times the tories can keep voting no
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It’s actually a good strategy.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #376
Rumours swirling around of a pending u-turn on kids meals. Seems Conservative MPs who voted against it are now unhappy they are being held to account by their constituents.

Hancock claims Johnson and Rashford are talking, Rashford knows nothing about it.

Also this morning calls for Johnson and Patel to apologise for attacks on lawyers. This is the problem with the Conservatives trying to claim they have been getting abuse following Raynors comments, people might then turn round and highlight your own actions.

Boris Johnson and Priti Patel 'should apologise for lawyer attacks'

More than 800 legal professionals accuse ministers of "hostility" which they claim jeopardises safety.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #377
chiefdave said:
Rumours swirling around of a pending u-turn on kids meals. Seems Conservative MPs who voted against it are now unhappy they are being held to account by their constituents.

Hancock claims Johnson and Rashford are talking, Rashford knows nothing about it.
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Started to think they orchestrated this to slip this through without anyone noticing

Government reduces minimum salary for migrants to settle in UK

Rules which come into force in December quietly published on Thursday by Home Office
www.google.co.uk
Probably worked and backfired at the same time. I don’t think they expected the response they got from local businesses and individuals.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #378
skybluetony176 said:
Started to think they orchestrated this to slip this through without anyone noticing

Government reduces minimum salary for migrants to settle in UK

Rules which come into force in December quietly published on Thursday by Home Office
www.google.co.uk
Probably worked and backfired at the same time. I don’t think they expected the response they got from local businesses and individuals.
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Or 14 to 7 day's isolation.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #379
chiefdave said:
Rumours swirling around of a pending u-turn on kids meals. Seems Conservative MPs who voted against it are now unhappy they are being held to account by their constituents.

Hancock claims Johnson and Rashford are talking, Rashford knows nothing about it.

Also this morning calls for Johnson and Patel to apologise for attacks on lawyers. This is the problem with the Conservatives trying to claim they have been getting abuse following Raynors comments, people might then turn round and highlight your own actions.

Boris Johnson and Priti Patel 'should apologise for lawyer attacks'

More than 800 legal professionals accuse ministers of "hostility" which they claim jeopardises safety.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Random question: Can Rashford now have “Rashford MBE” on the back of his shirt? Is he the first non retired footballer to be given an honour?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #380
shmmeee said:
Random question: Can Rashford now have “Rashford MBE” on the back of his shirt? Is he the first non retired footballer to be given an honour?
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Steven Davis and Harry Kane also have MBEs, Jermain Defoe has an OBE. Stanley Matthews was knighted while still active I think
 
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Ian1779

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  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #381
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #382
This and many related tweets has made I laugh a lot this evening

 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 26, 2020
  • #383
These PPE contracts are scandalous.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 27, 2020
  • #384
skybluetony176 said:
These PPE contracts are scandalous.
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I understand buying in excess given we were caught with our pants down at the start having ignored Cygnet, but to have bought nearly 60 times the amount we've supposedly used is excessive, and certainly totally unnecessary under 'emergency contracts' which avoid scrutiny. They could be bought using usual procurement methods.

There is a part of me that things the sums somewhere must be wrong and we've used more than that, but the fact that I also think it's well within the realms of possibility for this government to do something so corrupt to ensure mates and donors get more public funds during a time of crisis in which tens of thousands are dying it shows just how little faith I have not just in their competence but also in their ethics.

There are times when I wish I was religious so I could at least believe these bastards would eventually get their comeuppance.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 27, 2020
  • #385
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I understand buying in excess given we were caught with our pants down at the start having ignored Cygnet, but to have bought nearly 60 times the amount we've supposedly used is excessive, and certainly totally unnecessary under 'emergency contracts' which avoid scrutiny. They could be bought using usual procurement methods.

There is a part of me that things the sums somewhere must be wrong and we've used more than that, but the fact that I also think it's well within the realms of possibility for this government to do something so corrupt to ensure mates and donors get more public funds during a time of crisis in which tens of thousands are dying it shows just how little faith I have not just in their competence but also in their ethics.

There are times when I wish I was religious so I could at least believe these bastards would eventually get their comeuppance.
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Might include items they might prefer to not publicise , associated with death?
 
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