shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Discuss it. You might change your views pretty quickly. Genuinely shocked at some of the takes in here from supposedly left wing people.
Fuck me.
We've never discussed it, she's not a fan of the regime though.
How condescending.Genuinely don’t think people who cape for the likes of Russia and Iran have ever fucking met anyone from those places. You’d change your tune pretty fucking quick if so.
Genuinely pathetic take. Go talk to someone who fears for their life because of the governments of these countries and come back with your “oh the west is just as bad” shit.
Err, I didn’t actually but crack on with your assumptions.But we back genocide! That’s what you said. Iran and Britain just as bad!
Or were you being obtuse?
Genuinely don’t think people who cape for the likes of Russia and Iran have ever fucking met anyone from those places. You’d change your tune pretty fucking quick if so.
Genuinely pathetic take. Go talk to someone who fears for their life because of the governments of these countries and come back with your “oh the west is just as bad” shit.
This was the actual post about Iran being the biggest threat to global world peace due to having nuclear weapons that I was responding to.Their backing of Russia and various terrorist groups for a start.
Anyway, to change topic completely. Once again I am saying that we fucked up giving America to the puritans and keeping the UK.
And this is why any comparison of economies TBF should probably exclude the US. Just the luckiest fucking country on the planet geographically.
Go talk to someone who fears for their life because of the governments of these countries and come back with your “oh the west is just as bad” shit.
Its not Russia or Iran but watched the Romesh Ranganathan show about Uganda the other day and the issue of their anti-homosexuality act, which was introduced in 2023, came up and the scary thing he found was that it had overwhelming support.“Actually supporting brutal homophobic regimes is socialist really.”
“Actually supporting brutal homophobic regimes is socialist really.”
And people question *my* left wing credentials? Fucking hell. Supporting winning UK elections is more right wing than throwing gay people off buildings and killing political opponents an brutalising and entire populous I guess.
Miss me with that tankie shite.
Labour MPs thought little of undermining Corbyn at the last two elections, it’s nothing new. It won’t cost them anything really, the country is too sick of the Tories to let them back in.Back to the UK election now, I just find it miraculous that Labour is deciding to have petty ‘civil war’ over Diane Abbott at the start of a general election campaign.
Rayner (and others) undermining Starmer is ridiculous. You’re on the cusp of forming the next government if you don’t fuck it up.
A disunited party could cost them a majority or somehow even lose it.
Labour MPs thought little of undermining Corbyn at the last two elections, it’s nothing new. It won’t cost them anything really, the country is too sick of the Tories to let them back in.
No one who didn't have a view already gives a flying fuck about Dianne Abbott, you just come off as having overdosed on copeiumExactly and the party then wasn’t fit for office. Factional infighting is not befitting of a government.
The Tories are infighting because they’ve been in government for so long and not achieved a whole lot. Labour really ought to bury all hatchets and get the election over and done.
One week into the election, you’ve got a senior shadow ministers and the deputy leader splitting from the leader. It’s not a good look.
I don’t particularly care about it and nor will the electorate. She isn’t a well woman and would probably be better off out of politics anywayExactly and the party then wasn’t fit for office. Factional infighting is not befitting of a government.
The Tories are infighting because they’ve been in government for so long and not achieved a whole lot. Labour really ought to bury all hatchets and get the election over and done.
One week into the election, you’ve got a senior shadow ministers and the deputy leader splitting from the leader. It’s not a good look.
Ok, we’ll see how this plays out in the election…No one who didn't have a view already gives a flying fuck about Dianne Abbott, you just come off as having overdosed on copeium
I don’t particularly care about it and nor will the electorate. She isn’t a well woman and would probably be better off out of politics anyway
The Tories are in greater turmoil from that perspective also. What bothers me much more is the lack of vision or conviction coming from the party leader which leads to shadow ministers refusing to give an opinion on anything even when the public were begging them to, like on QT last Thursday.I disagree and the one area of politics that’s genuinely interesting to me is election, how they’re fought and so on.
Disunited political parties rarely win general elections in Europe and in the USA. This could be an issue that blows over in a week but as the policies start to be announced and so on, will there be more infighting?
No party in the UK is more disunited than the Tories. They’ve got factions within factions. If Labour is only split into 2 factions (in reality they always have been) they’re still in a far far better place than the Tories.I disagree and the one area of politics that’s genuinely interesting to me is election, how they’re fought and so on.
Disunited political parties rarely win general elections in Europe and in the USA. This could be an issue that blows over in a week but as the policies start to be announced and so on, will there be more infighting?
Yes. Britain and Iran are both equally terrible government.
This amuses me
I don't think Iran has ever occupied Britain
The Iranian regime is appalling, but let's not forget who destabilised the country and facilitated these maniacs.
Another western foreign policy zinger.
The Iranian regime is appalling, but let's not forget who destabilised the country and facilitated these maniacs.
Another western foreign policy zinger.
Careful, you’ll be accused of supporting members of the LGBT community being hurled off buildings next.The Iranian regime is appalling, but let's not forget who destabilised the country and facilitated these maniacs.
Another western foreign policy zinger.
Indeed. Gaddafi was always a maniac,but it was only when he started trying to get the golden dinar off the ground that he had to goWell yes and also the incursions into Libya Iraq and most notably Afghanistan. Interference with zero positivity yet people stupidly think the Ukraine support is based off moral superiority
To be fair, socialist and communist regimes don’t have the best records on LGBT right… The iconic Che Guevara was involved in persecuting homosexuals after the Cuban Revolution.
Perhaps your tongue-in-cheek quote is right?
Yes. Britain and Iran are both equally terrible government.
We all owe a debt to history, and that can only be repaid by acting with respect, kindness and the pursuit of peace. The injustices of history never justifies the injustices of today.The Iranian regime is appalling, but let's not forget who destabilised the country and facilitated these maniacs.
Another western foreign policy zinger.
We all owe a debt to history, and that can only be repaid by acting with respect, kindness and the pursuit of peace. The injustices of history never justifies the injustices of today.
Simply put, Iran should stop destabilising the region, and using the atrocities of history to justify its actions is a disgrace.
We all owe a debt to history, and that can only be repaid by acting with respect, kindness and the pursuit of peace. The injustices of history never justifies the injustices of today.
Simply put, Iran should stop destabilising the region, and using the atrocities of history to justify its actions is a disgrace.
History should be learnt from, not used to propagate the idea that the actions of some nefarious characters can use it to fool individuals into justifying it, in some sort of echo chamber of propaganda, and ordinary folk lap it up and even when criticising the regime reference some injustice.Unfortunately history resonates, and keeps resonating.
We still live with consequences of things that happened centuries ago.
And I'm not sure anyone is trying to justify Irans actions.
Cheap semantic trick. I was using it in broader terms, even the 21st century could be consider "modern history", apologies that you could not extrapolate in context.I don’t think you can describe meddling in the Middle East in the 21st century as historical
Cheap semantic trick. I was using it in broader terms, even the 21st century could be consider "modern history", apologies that you could not extrapolate in context.
Plus, with the Sunni/Shia divide, the mistreatment of Christians by the Ottomans, etc..., divisions in the Middle East are deeply ingrained. The West certainly didn't help, but the Middle East needs to help itself now.
Gaddafi was always a maniac,
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