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Do you think robins will be the man to take us back up (1 Viewer)

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Evo1883

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  • Sep 2, 2019
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If the club carries on in the same manner, with the same kind of recruitment policy, do you think Robins will be the man who eventually takes us back up, even if its not this season, would you give him the time..
Do you think the club need to offer him a long term deal, and are you satisfied with his tenure so far..
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Sep 2, 2019
  • #2
If you'd asked me last November then I'd have said no. This season though, the recruitment looks good so far (it's Badlan's first real summer window) and we're unbeaten in the league 6 games in. No real reason for pessimism at the moment. My one concern would be any significant injury to Godden. The drop off from him to Baka and Max is significant.
 
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CanadianCCFC

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  • Sep 2, 2019
  • #3
Yes unless he’s scooped up on or before May 3rd 2020.
 

cc84cov

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  • Sep 2, 2019
  • #4
This season could be the one they said they were going for it I’m starting to believe
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 2, 2019
  • #5
I'd like to see him get given 5 years if we make the playoffs this year, would like a manager to stay here for many years as long as theres progress.. No more chop and change

I personally think he will have us up within 3 seasons at most, I'd be willing to give him the time

He's currently the 21st longest serving manager in the English leagues
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 2, 2019
  • #6
Yes.

He’s done enough in his first (second?) three years to justify it IMO. Even if we didn’t make playoffs this year I’d still give him at least one more full season.

More faith in him than any manager in a long time.
 
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KeresleyArmpit

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  • Sep 2, 2019
  • #7
Think it’ll be more a case of if he’ll stay, not the other way round. I’m sure he’d be linked with most championship jobs now if there were sackings.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Sep 2, 2019
  • #8
It kinda feels like there is a time limit on it at the moment. If we don't go up this season or next then it is hard to see it happening once the money dries up. There is only so long you can rely on producing and selling on players combined with low crowds and limited revenue streams. Add onto that the increased spending power of the teams who come down from the Championship these days and it becomes increasingly hard for a club in our predicament to progress. Even this year the likes of Sunderland, Ipswich, Rotherham and Peterborough can blow us out of the water from a financial standpoint.

As for whether Robins is the man to do it, I'm not sure. There is no denying that he's done a good job since he's come in but there are definitely some flaws there that maybe go a bit under the radar. Our inability to ever really go on consistent winning streaks, or to put lesser teams to the sword, aren't really the attributes of a team that can challenge for automatic promotion. Robins' in-game management is also very suspect, especially his substitutions and in-game tactical flexibility. There have been a lot of games where I've come away feeling like the opposition manager has tactically out-thought Robins, particularly in the second half of games, and it has led to some rather disappointing defeats to teams we should have beaten.

There are obviously upsides though. We play some nice stuff most of the time and tend to look defensively as a unit (although perhaps not individually) and I certainly think we'd be able to challenge for the play-offs this season or next season under him.
 
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DS0708

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  • Sep 2, 2019
  • #9
KeresleyArmpit said:
Think it’ll be more a case of if he’ll stay, not the other way round. I’m sure he’d be linked with most championship jobs now if there were sackings.
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Wouldnt surprise me if he ended up at Sunderland when they get rid of Jack Ross which I think is inevitable.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 2, 2019
  • #10
DS0708 said:
Wouldnt surprise me if he ended up at Sunderland when they get rid of Jack Ross which I think is inevitable.
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Perryccfc

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  • Sep 2, 2019
  • #11
Amazed as some of the responses. The most successful manager of this club in recent memory. Two Wembley wins, our first promotion in God’s knows how long, stuck by the club through some ugly times (I’m aware he left once) when many others would have sacked it in. Still producing results and performances with limitations.

I don’t think he’s a world beater of a manager but it certainly seems a good fit with us and him, and long may it continue. I would love to see the club reward him with a new long term contract and feel he would be absolutely fully deserving of it.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 2, 2019
  • #12
Evo1883 said:
If the club carries on in the same manner, with the same kind of recruitment policy, do you think Robins will be the man who eventually takes us back up, even if its not this season, would you give him the time..
Do you think the club need to offer him a long term deal, and are you satisfied with his tenure so far..
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Don't see us having the strength in depth to maintain an automatic promotion challenge. For the same reason I think the playoffs are unlikely but possible, and if you make it in there it's anyone's to win. If Godden goes out then there's nobody really to replace him, and you can say the same for our wide players. Ultimately last season we fell short because we ran out of steam and nothing significant enough has happened to make me think differently this time out.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 2, 2019
  • #13
Perryccfc said:
I would love to see the club reward him with a new long term contract and feel he would be absolutely fully deserving of it.
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It would be an even bigger favour if constructive steps were taken to build a new ground or get back to our old one on acceptable terms. We can't maintain St Andrews in the long run
 

Gibbo

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  • Sep 2, 2019
  • #14
He must be on a very good contract to put up with all this ground share / eviction rubbish. He is very employable. Same applies to Boddy as well.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Sep 2, 2019
  • #15
My worry is playing outside of the city and how long the owners are prepared to fund any shortfall. I'd be prepared to give him a few years as we have moved in the right direction the whole period he's been in charge. If his budget is drastically cut though I can't see him staying when he can get comfortably get a job elsewhere.
 

Paxman II

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  • Sep 2, 2019
  • #16
He just added more quality to the squad today and he has started the season well. It's clear the club has the play offs in their sites as a minimum. The progress under MR's has been very good since he came back. He has educated his players to play good technical football and has built a side capableof beating anyone in this league. So yes I beleive he will go one step further and take us up again. I think playing at St.Andrews somehow takes pressure away from the team and the pitch is very suited to our game. We still have Allen to come in, O'Hare looks to be impresive, Godden probably the best striker we have secured in a long while and then there is the prospect of Jones return. Not many teams in this league can match that.
I think there is a fair chance of the auto's to be honest.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #17
Paxman II said:
He just added more quality to the squad today and he has started the season well. It's clear the club has the play offs in their sites as a minimum. The progress under MR's has been very good since he came back. He has educated his players to play good technical football and has built a side capableof beating anyone in this league. So yes I beleive he will go one step further and take us up again. I think playing at St.Andrews somehow takes pressure away from the team and the pitch is very suited to our game. We still have Allen to come in, O'Hare looks to be impresive, Godden probably the best striker we have secured in a long while and then there is the prospect of Jones return. Not many teams in this league can match that.
I think there is a fair chance of the auto's to be honest.
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I'd say there is at least 5-6 teams in this league who have a better squad than us and another 3-4 that have a similar quality squad.
 

Paxman II

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #18
SeaSeeEffCee said:
I'd say there is at least 5-6 teams in this league who have a better squad than us and another 3-4 that have a similar quality squad.
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So you are saying 10 teams, getting on for half the league, have at least a squad as strong as ours or better? I don't think so.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #19
Paxman II said:
So you are saying 10 teams, getting on for half the league, have at least a squad as strong as ours or better? I don't think so.
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Sunderland, Peterborough, Fleetwood, Ipswich, Rotherham and Portsmouth all have better squads than us I'd say. Then we're pretty even with Oxford, Blackpool and Lincoln. Probably a bit better than Burton, Wycombe, Doncaster and MK Dons.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #20
A lot could depend on our ground situation at the moment St Andrews is okay but not ideal and could have ramifications further down the line, we just don’t know. Squad looks okay he’s plugged possible issues at the back and midfield with loans, striker could be an issue if Godden gets an injury but we have JJ near to fitness what a plus that could be. I’d be very miffed if we ain’t seriously challenging this season
 

harvey098

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #21
Perryccfc said:
Amazed as some of the responses. The most successful manager of this club in recent memory.
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Most have been positive tbf but the funny thing is football fans are so reactionary that if we hung on to the win on Saturday and we’re asking this question sitting joint top, there would be no debate. One missed tackle from Kelly changes people’s opinions about a man standing 30 meters from it.

Robins is the man. (Although his lack of subs does frustrate me)
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #22
harvey098 said:
Most have been positive tbf but the funny thing is football fans are so reactionary that if we hung on to the win on Saturday and we’re asking this question sitting joint top, there would be no debate. One missed tackle from Kelly changes people’s opinions about a man standing 30 meters from it.

Robins is the man. (Although his lack of subs does frustrate me)
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A lot of the time on the subs though Robins must think shit things are not going well then look at the bench and think...may as well stay with what we have on the pitch although thats looking like it will change because of the options we now have.... its looking promising
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #23
Easiest yes I've said today apart from when Mrs WM said "you're busting for a poo, aren't you?"



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PVA

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #24
He's the best manager we've had in a long, long time and he has done/is doing a brilliant job.

There are still some who think he's crap and moan at him every match, and there are some who wanted him sacked earlier this year. Madness.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #25
Robins in !!!!
 

Gibbo

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #26
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Sunderland, Peterborough, Fleetwood, Ipswich, Rotherham and Portsmouth all have better squads than us I'd say. Then we're pretty even with Oxford, Blackpool and Lincoln. Probably a bit better than Burton, Wycombe, Doncaster and MK Dons.
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In which case it will be down to the main skill of a manager, that is preparing them in training and on the day. This is more important than transfer dealings at this level. What performance can he extract from his squad? The jury (and the taxi) is still out on Robins, even after over two years.
Robins either a) values stability, or b) is formulaic, depending on your point of view. There is a clear process in and out of the starting line up with few if any variations, so players know exactly where they stand - good. But it shows an inflexibility of thought which we also see during matches.
In the harum scarum world of L.1 the balance is probably that it is to our benefit that the formula is so rigid and he remains the best manager of the SISU era by far. And any way who do you see out there that is a) better and b) available and c) prepared to take the shit situation the club is in off the pitch?
 

mark82

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #27
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Sunderland, Peterborough, Fleetwood, Ipswich, Rotherham and Portsmouth all have better squads than us I'd say. Then we're pretty even with Oxford, Blackpool and Lincoln. Probably a bit better than Burton, Wycombe, Doncaster and MK Dons.
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I'd say we rank probably at number 6 in that list, probably just ahead of Fleetwood, Blackpool, Lincoln. It is very close between the top 10 teams though.
 

fellatio_Martinez

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #28
Robins is what we've needed for ages. A stoic character who knows the game inside out and can work well with what he's got.

The amount of flash, over confident, underachieving gobshites we've had as managers is bewildering.

I believe Robins can take us out of this league but I have a nagging feeling he's going to get a big money call sooner rather than later.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #29
fellatio_Martinez said:
Robins is what we've needed for ages. A stoic character who knows the game inside out and can work well with what he's got.

The amount of flash, over confident, underachieving gobshites we've had as managers is bewildering.

I believe Robins can take us out of this league but I have a nagging feeling he's going to get a big money call sooner rather than later.
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I am flabbergasted that his job is not recognised more by our own fans. He has issues in changing the set up during a game and making substitutions when things aren’t working.
However just look at this last transfer window and the season long loans you can see what he is attempting to do and the style of play he is expecting of the team.
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #30
Yes.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #31
fellatio_Martinez said:
Robins is what we've needed for ages. A stoic character who knows the game inside out and can work well with what he's got.

The amount of flash, over confident, underachieving gobshites we've had as managers is bewildering.

I believe Robins can take us out of this league but I have a nagging feeling he's going to get a big money call sooner rather than later.
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Underachieving Gobshites- Steve Evans
 
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AStonesThrow

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #32
In Robins we trust. Long live the King
 
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PTA

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  • Sep 3, 2019
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I can't think of a better manager who'd actually manage Coventry City long term with all the off-field issues we have. Also I think among the majority of the fan-base (ie not just the folks on here) he's very, very popular. In my view either he'll take us up or we won't be going up until the club starts getting run properly (and that may not be for a very long time).
 

ccfcway

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #34
Crazy we are even having this debate.

That said, check the Saturday match day thread, posters calling him clueless....
 
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AStonesThrow

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  • Sep 3, 2019
  • #35
ccfcway said:
Crazy we are even having this debate.

That said, check the Saturday match day thread, posters calling him clueless....
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Seriously? If Robins is clueless, I'd hate to think what Russell Slade is
 
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