Astute
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More like run very badly at both times.
The big difference is one ran us badly trying to make the club successful. The other is running our club very badly trying to get a big return for the investors.
and the Club is now far better run then in Dublin's day. Very strong management team from the Board to the manager.
We need to become sustainable and yes there is pain before the gain.
Agree we shouldn't be playing in Northampton, but that's got nothing to do with Dublin refusing to play. You're just trying to deflect criticism from him. We get it you like Dublin. He was a brilliant player, no doubt about it, but the way he refused to play in a match was inexcusable. No player at any club should do that. We travelled down to Luton midweek to see our team play. He decided he didn't want to turn up and wear the shirt.
@ Torchy....I also remember Thorne saying "We've got Turner to come back in the next few days" yet I said 2 weeks beforehand that Turner would never wear a Sky Blue shirt again...I was right.... He was sold to Cardiff shortly afterwards.I wonder who's decision it was not to play him again??? Thorn..Turner...or SISU? Of course nothing like what Dublin did ever happens does it?
Turner wouldn't have been in the team. Thorn publically stated keogh and Cranie were his first choice centre halves. Given they also had wood earning a fortune and McPake he was always going to be sold.
Totally irrelevant. Nothing to do with our current situation. At the time we were in the Premiership, playing in Coventry in our own ground. Dublin refused to play. No excuses.
Totally irrelevant how ? you said "one simple fact, he refused to play", could be one simple fact that could stop players turning out at Sixfields. Whether in the premiership or the conference, if a player/s were to make a stance for something that they believed in after they had been treated like shit, how can anybody blame them. You still didn't answer the question though, would you find it unforgivable if our current players refused to play saying that they had enough of playing home games in a shed compared to a decent stadium, or don't you want Nick coming on calling you a hypocrite ?
Totally irrelevant how ? you said "one simple fact, he refused to play", could be one simple fact that could stop players turning out at Sixfields. Whether in the premiership or the conference, if a player/s were to make a stance for something that they believed in after they had been treated like shit, how can anybody blame them. You still didn't answer the question though, would you find it unforgivable if our current players refused to play saying that they had enough of playing home games in a shed compared to a decent stadium, or don't you want Nick coming on calling you a hypocrite ?
The players aren't being treated like shit they are being paid and that's all they care about. I would say team spirit appears stronger now than it has since relegation from the premiership.
Totally irrelevant how ? you said "one simple fact, he refused to play", could be one simple fact that could stop players turning out at Sixfields. Whether in the premiership or the conference, if a player/s were to make a stance for something that they believed in after they had been treated like shit, how can anybody blame them. You still didn't answer the question though, would you find it unforgivable if our current players refused to play saying that they had enough of playing home games in a shed compared to a decent stadium, or don't you want Nick coming on calling you a hypocrite ?
Sorry Torch but can't agree with you. Richardson gets the blame from me. As I said earlier I was as pissed off as anyone at the time, but looked at it differently as the truth started to come out. I am nowhere near alone in this matter either.
Why? Did he tell Dublin not to bother turning up? Was poor little Dion struggling on his £20K? I don't particularly care if your are "near alone on this matter" or not. Did you travel down that night to Luton?
Each to their own, of course, but he lost all respect from me for doing that. It's easy to blame other people. Dublin was his own man who made up his own mind. "I am not going to pull that shirt on and play for the club who pay my wages tonight".
Yes it is totally irrelevant. We were talking about an event years ago that has absolutely NOTHING to do with our current situation. It is only being brought up by you and Astute to deflect criticism away from Dublin. And would I support a strike by the players now as we play in Northampton? Probably would actually because of our current situation. Dublin was greedy and selfish. A player who was earning £2oK a week refused to pull on the jersey. You and Astute and others maybe happy with that, but I'm not and neither were the others who'd travelled. Refusing to play is unforgivable. I would imagine if McSheff or one of the other boo boy favourites had done the same then the attitude of some would be different.
A player who refuses to play deserves no respect in my book.
Annoyed at the way he left, but the greatest service to the club by any player in my time watching the city and nobody even comes close.
The players I loved were Dave Phillips, Trevor Peake and Brian Burrows, all three were very underrated in my opinion. With regard to Dublin, for a comparison I thought Regis was an all round better forward (Dublin was probably an all round better player due to defensive ability) and will never forget that night he hit the bar with that long range header which someone else tapped in to beat Forest in that 4-3 thriller in a midweek game.
I always thought forwards were primarily there to score goals. Regis' contribution is hugely over rated if you assess is whole time at the club. He averaged around 1 goal every 5 games and in the first two seasons at the club was dire.
Statistically that's true, but in my view was down to (primarily) Don Mackay playing him as a target man, which was not his real game.
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