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Difficult to pick the right team for the New Den... (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Paxman II
  • Start date Oct 31, 2011
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Paxman II

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  • Oct 31, 2011
  • #1
Who want's to take a stab at it ?

I would drop Juke to the bench for a rest and have Platt up top with Cody.
I would bring Freddie back from the cold and bench him...no point paying a perfectly capable player and not using him.

Deagan must start and a place should be found for McPake/Cameron at the back.

Put Keogh out right back.

Midfield of Bell, Clingan Deegan and Macca

4-4-2 and use the witdth to supply the big man little man link.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 31, 2011
  • #2
I agree it is a very difficult team to pick at the moment simply because not enough players are not performing well enough to make themselves first choice currently. I have no idea what side or formation I would go with tbh, I do like the diamond at times but how productive we are depends on how the AM plays it is pivotal to creating chances etc. so if the AM doesn't perform we are pretty toothless and Mcsheffrey isn't consistent enough to have our performance depending on him.

I would like to go 4-3-3 but I wouldn't want to drop Mcdonald. 4-4-2 is an option but if that was the case I would go with Baker and Mcsheffrey on the wings.
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 31, 2011
  • #3
It's a difficult one for me, we are never going to put a decent run together if we can't put the same team out for a run of 5-6 match's. This is one of the major reasons the diamond has failed this season, we've had to play so many different combinations up front and in midfield which is making it difficult to put patterns of play together.

Juke, Christie and possibly Thomas could probably do with a rest but a lot will rest on whether Hussey and Wood are fit or not. However making 4 or 5 changes is not a good idea, how can you put a cohesive run together when your chopping and changing the starting line up, whether due to form or fitness.

I would stick with the Diamond - the thought of Bell and McSheffrey on the wings fills me with dread, and i don't believe we'd create anymore chances with those two out wide, and we'll get more overrun in the centre of the park.

Murphy
Christie Cameron Wood Keogh
Clingan
Thomas Baker
McSheffrey
Cody Juke

Obviously if Wood and Hussey** are injured you've have to bring in Cameron and McPake, but Cameron would come in first.

**Hussey is out so i've switched my formation
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Oct 31, 2011
  • #4
Murphy
Keogh. Wood. Mcpake. Hussey
Clingan
Mcsheffery deegan
Baker
Juke platt/cody

Need experience at the den and I believe giving thomas and christie a rest with deegan and mcpake coming in would be a improvement.
 

cornoccfc

Member
  • Oct 31, 2011
  • #5
Hussey is out!
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Oct 31, 2011
  • #6
I would probably go with
------------Murphy
Keogh--Mcpake--Wood--Hussey
----------------Clingan
------Deegan----------Bell
----------------Baker
-------Mcdonald----Juke
 
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johnwillomagic

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #7
ccfc seems to be in denial about Hussey!

I would like to see Platt involved just not sure if better with Juke or McDonald, great news that Wood has shaken off knock in my opinion, tough game would be delighted with a point!
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #8
Murphy
Keogh Cameron Wood
Bell Thomas Clingan Deegan Baker
Juke Mcdonald

Yes 3 - 5 -2
 
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johnwillomagic

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #9
I like in some ways 3-5-2 just feel we may be too open and have concern over wing backs in your team getting back.

Think we will no doubt stick to the diamond formation intrigured to see who Thorn starts with tomorrow.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #10
johnwillomagic said:
ccfc seems to be in denial about Hussey!

I would like to see Platt involved just not sure if better with Juke or McDonald, great news that Wood has shaken off knock in my opinion, tough game would be delighted with a point!
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Unless both his legs have been chopped off he should play.

Seriously though it is a big worry for me that Hussey is out, I would be tempted to play Wood there.
 
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CUS Wyken

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #11
We will go there very defensive tomorrow. Millwall have scored 7 in there last 2 games. Thorn will have this in mind although I fear another ipswich drubbing is on the cards.
 
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Macca

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #12
I'm with you on that mate, a good drubbing I'm afraid with a sending off as the icing on the cake. I'm so positive!
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #13
Wood has done OK at left back so yes that is a fair call.

Would struggle in a diamond set up though as that requires a lot of pace up and down the flanks.
 
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CUS Wyken

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #14
Macca said:
I'm with you on that mate, a good drubbing I'm afraid with a sending off as the icing on the cake. I'm so positive!
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No doubt I'll regret going tomorrow, the more I think about the more I think why but then you have that small bit of hope we might get something. How does the saying go, we Live and hope.
 

sky blue john

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #15
forget Freddie not fit and not interested in playing would be more disruptive and not help the cause.
 
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Macca

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #16
CUS Wyken said:
No doubt I'll regret going tomorrow, the more I think about the more I think why but then you have that small bit of hope we might get something. How does the saying go, we Live and hope.
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been there before? Went to the old den many moons ago, what a hell hole, with the cactus style sharp fencing
 

sky blue john

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #17
CUS Wyken said:
We will go there very defensive tomorrow. Millwall have scored 7 in there last 2 games. Thorn will have this in mind although I fear another ipswich drubbing is on the cards.
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When everyone expects us to get beaten that seems to be the time we get a surprise result i am being optomistic.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #18
If husseys injured how about

Keogh. Cameron. mcpake. wood. Christie
Deegan Mcsheffery
Baker
Juke. Platt

Meaning we have a solid 5 at the back against a strong milwall, that then will mean the attack minded two wing backs can get more forward and whipping balls in for the two big lads.
I believe baker is far better than bell and putting him behind the front two he will be in his element.
 
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CUS Wyken

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #19
Macca said:
been there before? Went to the old den many moons ago, what a hell hole, with the cactus style sharp fencing
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Yeah 3 times and never seen us win haha. Never went to the old den, would love to have. What football away days would have been about. Ninian park for the cup game back in 03 would have been the closest to the old den I reckon.

John - that's why I have little bit of hope. We're surely due an away win soon
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #20
Can't see McSheffrey doing it in midfield. Sadly he looks finished to me.
 
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Macca

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #21
the only trouble is if they score the best we can hope for is a draw!!

Upton Park was probably the most intimidating away ground I remember, though Filbert Street was no tea party
 
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CUS Wyken

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #22
kduffy said:
Can't see McSheffrey doing it in midfield. Sadly he looks finished to me.
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He was awful Saturday. He doesn't bring anything to the team.
 
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CUS Wyken

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #23
Macca said:
the only trouble is if they score the best we can hope for is a draw!!

Upton Park was probably the most intimidating away ground I remember, though Filbert Street was no tea party
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Did you go upton park in the league cup early 80's. I've heard loads of stories from that day. 8,000 Cov down there, would have been a good'un
 
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Macca

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #24
haha still in short trousers then! Most of my away trips were in the late 80's when it was still affordable. Always seemed like an adventure then, almost tribal really with the best result getting back to Cov unscathed. The end of terracing took a shine off things for me. To be fair there were as many days when a good crack was had with the home fans as there were trouble. Football fans were treated like scum, sometimes with justification but it felt good to belong to something. Funny now to look back at so called hard cases with highlighted mullets and bad jumpers
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #25
We need experience when going down there. I can't help but think the younger lads might be a little bit worried about reputation etc. We also need a bit of grit about us, they have some big (size) players so we need to be able to deal with them.

Didn't Baker get sent off down there because of the fans getting onto him?
 
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KersleyDigs

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #26
------------------------Murphy------------------------
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Keogh------Cameron--------McPake-----------Wood
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Baker-------Clingan--------Deegan------McSheffrey
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---------------Juke---------McDonald----------------
 
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Mumford and Daughter

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #27
KersleyDigs said:
------------------------Murphy------------------------
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Keogh------Cameron--------McPake-----------Wood
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Baker-------Clingan--------Deegan------McSheffrey
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---------------Juke---------McDonald----------------
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i like that
 
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KersleyDigs

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #28
Putting Wood behind McSheffrey in a 4-4-2 makes sense. Wood won't offer anything going forward, so would sit and allow McSheffrey to concentrate on attacking. This can also quickly turn into 4-3-3 once McSheffrey pushes on.

Only reservation would be about Bell or Baker, need crosses for Cody, he seems to get on the end of em'
 

skyblueinBaku

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #29
I'm sure that McPake will start. We need his steel at the back, and he will lead by example - something we have missed from a lot of the senior players.
 

Sub

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #30
don't think it will matter who we put out, i think we will lose but praying for a draw
 

Astute

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #31
I would like to see Juke and Plattini up front. The twist is Cody advanced midfield. We need height up front, but someone nippy running onto the knockdowns. Christie at RB to put a bit of speed up the wing. not to go up front too often though.

4-3-1-2 so with Christie running forward can give 5 in midfield but also whilst on front foot we will have 3 strikers up front with the height to offer a challenge to their defence. Would be good to have Sheffers on left wing. Could give us many more chances than we are used to getting lately. Would make a few teams sit back further than normal.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #32
AT mentioned something about this being the first time this season he will be able to pick a senior XI. So I guess that means no Christie and Thomas tonight.
 

stupot07

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #33
Astute - why would you play a striker that thrives off playing on the last man and looks like scoring goals in attacking midfield? Cody's running and positioning is what actually stretches oppositions back fours creating the space for an attacking midfielder. Playing him in that roll will nullify the space, and instead of playing of the last man will have a defensive midfielder as well as centre backs between him and the goal.
 
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CUS Wyken

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #34
stupot07 said:
Astute - why would you play a striker that thrives off playing on the last man and looks like scoring goals in attacking midfield? Cody's running and positioning is what actually stretches oppositions back fours creating the space for an attacking midfielder. Playing him in that roll will nullify the space, and instead of playing of the last man will have a defensive midfielder as well as centre backs between him and the goal.
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To be honest Stu on Saturday Cody looked more of a threat coming from deep and running at defenders.
 

ccfcway

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  • Nov 1, 2011
  • #35
Platt and Juke up top

Cody to come on in the 2nd half to score a hattrick to try and get us back in the game
 
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