Ccfcisparks
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What will the verdict be
And at least 2 posters claiming ‘all lives matter’212 pages
Four total meltdowns
18 paranoid accusations of people using burner accounts
Three links to far right conspiracy theorist websites
300 complaints about 'division on social media' (from the same people posting the links)
Really not sure because I think you are right there will be unrest regardless of the outcome.What do you think?
He will probably be found guilty of manslaughter (don't know what the term is over there ) partly due to the fact that Floyd had deadly levels of drugs in his system already and partly because chauvin has to be proved to have purposely killed him
Was it the knee , was it the drugs or a combination of both
It's a tough one too in todays climate for any judge and jury
Either way , if its not a murder verdict and a life sentence I expect unrest on the streets again .
AHHHHHHH you beat me to it.212 pages
Four total meltdowns
18 paranoid accusations of people using burner accounts
Three links to far right conspiracy theorist websites
300 complaints about 'division on social media' (from the same people posting the links)
What will the verdict be
Either way I’m sure there’ll be rioting in America shortly followed by violence and protests here.What will the verdict be
What’s the bar for premeditation in murder? It is just intention at any point? If so I can’t see how kneeling non someone’s neck isn’t murder, you must have known you were killing them.
Obviously don't know the ins and outs of the US legal system but given its all on video its hard to see how a not-guilty verdict would be possible.What’s the bar for premeditation in murder? It is just intention at any point? If so I can’t see how kneeling non someone’s neck isn’t murder, you must have known you were killing them.
In the recording, Floyd can be heard saying 20 times that he could not breathe and 10 times that he was dying.
He repeatedly called out for his dead mother. Blackwell said that the dying man can also he heard to say “Tell my kids I love them” and “I’ll probably die this way. I’m through, I’m through. They’re going to kill me.”
Blackwell said that Floyd was no longer breathing for the last minute that Chauvin was kneeling on his neck.
He's been charged with 2nd and 3rd degree murder. Quirk of the US legal system means if he was charged with 2nd and the jury through it was only 3rd he would be not-guilty unless also being tried for the 3rd degree charge. His lawyers tried to have 3rd degree dropped but it was reinstated.It cannot be at any point, otherwise there would be no manslaughter at all. I suspect his case will be that it was unintended at all stages: reckless but not bad. However the US system is more political than ours, I believe, so I doubt he'll get the verdict on that.
And this for 3rd degree murder.Whoever causes the death of a human being, without intent to effect the death of any person, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other than criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence is guilty of unintentional murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years.
Is his police record admissible? 18 misconduct complaints on file, seems a lot to me. Would that be an expected amount.Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.
Obviously don't know the ins and outs of the US legal system but given its all on video its hard to see how a not-guilty verdict would be possible.
He's been charged with 2nd and 3rd degree murder. Quirk of the US legal system means if he was charged with 2nd and the jury through it was only 3rd he would be not-guilty unless also being tried for the 3rd degree charge. His lawyers tried to have 3rd degree dropped but it was reinstated.
Found this definition for 2nd degree in Minneapolis.
And this for 3rd degree murder.
Is his police record admissible? 18 misconduct complaints on file, seems a lot to me. Would that be an expected amount.
I can't see any other outcome but murder.
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He'll be running for president in the next election.Its the States mate. Anything could happen.
Don’t joke.He'll be running for president in the next election.
2nd and 3rd degree murder and manslaughterit's 3rd degree murder 2nd degree manslaughter .
Basically what we call life over here I think , upto 25 years
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