Brighton Sky Blue
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I was 10 at the time, I don't know. Would the chairman saying 'it's time to take a punt' not have some people, if not just a minority, having concerns?
So most fans protested when we signed players and were grateful we sold Robbie Keane?
Yawn.is this the account you are now using ROS?
You do realise if we’d been a championship club under these rules with Steve Gibson lobbying the same comaint We’d have no football club and the only thing that threatens them is his case?
Have they agreed a deal over the £29m they owe to HMRC & the £15m to MSD then?
Have they agreed a deal over the £29m they owe to HMRC & the £15m to MSD then?
Quite a different proposition to be fair. Will pay a percentage of a known amount. If a legal case was successful after takeover would need to be paid in full by new owner, you then have the cost of fighting a legal challenge too. It just adds another huge layer of risk to an already risky proposition.
I mentioned this earlier, Carlisle Capital are very much like SISU… buying the club without Pride Park. If they weren’t close to liquidation I’d be wary of Those ownersJust as i suspected...looks like Derby have been rescued again...those lucky bastards.
The new owners are wealthy...the Binnie family who founded Carlisle Capital (worth $12.49b @ 07/01/22)
Another example of us drawing a fucking short straw with new owners, when other teams somehow manage to find a super wealthy owner...even with the state Derby were/are in !
Derby County: US-based Binnie family submit takeover offer for Championship club
The Binnie family, founders of US investment firm Carlisle Capital, submit a takeover offer for Derby County.www.bbc.co.uk
The Binnies/Carlisle Capital are in a totally different different league to Sisu...Carlisle Capital's net worth is $12.49 BILLIONI mentioned this earlier, Carlisle Capital are very much like SISU… buying the club without Pride Park. If they weren’t close to liquidation I’d be wary of Those owners
Therefore we areAnd yet we still exist
Aren’t one of SISU’s major investors a pension fund - one of the biggest in the States? Just because their net worth is 12 billion doesn’t mean it’s available for use.The Binnies/Carlisle Capital are in a totally different different league to Sisu...Carlisle Capital's net worth is $12.49 BILLION
Sisu are not even 'tin pot' when compared to the Binnies/Carlisle Capital's wealth.
This is pocket money for the Binnies.
I suspect they will probably pay off the expensive debt and bring the debts 'in house' (interest free probably), buy back the stadium and fund the club to promotion back to the Championship next season.
Derby have a modern and decently sized stadium and a big following, so they are an attractive proposition (long term...when Mel's damage is repaired).
Compare that to what we got lumbered with...owners who put morons in charge of the club for years...who charge us credit card interest rates...have all the appeal of leprosy, and have little or no interest in CCFC's financial wellbeing, because their clients are their 1st priority...we only exist to create income for their clients.
Sisu and Carlisle work in very different sectors of the investment business.Aren’t one of SISU’s major investors a pension fund - one of the biggest in the States? Just because their net worth is 12 billion doesn’t mean it’s available for use.
they’re an investment firm that specialise in turning debt ridden companies around (sound familiar) they probably will take the debt in house - but like most American owners it won’t be for the love of the game or free. This notion that they’re going in with their clients not first priority is baseless.
So then the 12.49 billion is a red herring, that’s the net worth of Carlisle capital not the Binnie brothers.Sisu and Carlisle work in very different sectors of the investment business.
Sisu deal at the arse end...a vulture buying distressed companies eg Coventry City, and normally a short term owner, who is in it for a quick profit.
Carlisle's business is in the buying, managing and owning of assets and they are long term investors.
That said, from all available sources, it is the Binnie family which is buying DCFC ie privately, so Carlisle is just a symbol of how well they have done financially since 1984, as otherwise the company is not involved.
I said 'Carlisle Capital's net worth is $12.49 BILLION', purely as a measure of how successful they've been in business. Nowhere did i say the Binnie brothers were worth that.So then the 12.49 billion is a red herring, that’s the net worth of Carlisle capital not the Binnie brothers.
as I’ve said I’m sceptical of any motives from investment companies from North America.. buying a club with no stadium is a recipe for disaster as we know.
according to keiran maguire 28 million doesn't even clear the football debts and they need to this attracts higher paying biddersI said 'Carlisle Capital's net worth is $12.49 BILLION', purely as a measure of how successful they've been in business. Nowhere did i say the Binnie brothers were worth that.
The company though, will have made the 2 Binnie brothers extremely wealthy...infinitely more so than Joy.
Their skills are in management of businesses for the long term, and not like Joy, whose tactic is suing the arse off everyone and 'battering' them in court (allegedly).
Let's just say, we disagree on this one, shake hands, and walk way
Infinitely more so than Joy? Where are you getting those figures from?I said 'Carlisle Capital's net worth is $12.49 BILLION', purely as a measure of how successful they've been in business. Nowhere did i say the Binnie brothers were worth that.
The company though, will have made the 2 Binnie brothers extremely wealthy...infinitely more so than Joy.
Their skills are in management of businesses for the long term, and not like Joy, whose tactic is suing the arse off everyone and 'battering' them in court (allegedly).
Let's just say, we disagree on this one, shake hands, and walk way
Ahh...The Mirror...the pinnacle of investigative journalism.Infinitely more so than Joy? Where are you getting those figures from?
I think it was the Mirror that suggested Joy was the wealthiest owner in the championship.
Ahh...The Mirror...the pinnacle of investigative journalism.
I seem to remember at the time, that alot of people disputed that £2.3bn figure as.
I just ran this through Google translate and it came back as “this doesn’t align with what I’ve already decided so I’m going to disregard it”Ahh...The Mirror...the pinnacle of investigative journalism.
I seem to remember at the time, that alot of people disputed that £2.3bn figure as.
Who is funding the day to day running of the club? Are the players being paid in full?Looks like Derby are in real trouble now. No news on their finances and the EFL are stamping their feet
Derby County: EFL awaits 'urgent' funding update as deadline looms
Derby County's administrators are asked for an "urgent" update by the EFL, with a deadline to show proof of funding looming.www.bbc.co.uk
Who is funding the day to day running of the club? Are the players being paid in full?
I believe they're relying on loans from MSD Holdings to keep them afloat. They only have a few weeks of money left though so unsure what the plan is after that.
More loans? If they're struggling to attract a buyer that's only going to put them off even further if there's high interest attached, but if they don't take them they go under. They're very much in double-edged sword territory.
Well like him or loathe him he’s an astute businessman and will be looking long term -15 points whatever division Derby are in won’t bother him.
Therefore we are
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