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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,296
Grendel said:
My summary of the game has attracted 15 likes so far - you and BSB are well liking each other’s posts

let’s leave it there
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You've also got quite a few more than just him agreeing with what I'm saying. Hamer rescuing this game after we go 2 up front doesn't mean we weren't very poor tonight
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,297
At least Robins has said Sam was shit tonight
 

cc84cov

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,298
clint van damme said:
But they're what we've got.
Why do people keep banging on about players not being good enough? They're what we have, it's not like we had the chance to recruit proven Championship pedigree. People need to accept it for what it is for their own sanity if nothing else!

And I disagree about O'Hare, not saying he will make the grade but too early to say he won't.
Shipley is really struggling.
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What’s O’Hare done to convince you other wise ? He wasn’t even a starter in league 1 he’s over rated and bottles the big chances in a game
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,299
Brighton Sky Blue said:
So surely that dreadful formation should have shipped many more than 1 on Saturday. Dude, we weren't conceding because of the formation. Penalties, horrible individual errors and zonal marking from set pieces were what cost us.

We are going to find it so hard to win games playing like this
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they had no forwards Saturday keep digging
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,300
Anybody else hope we beat Barnsley at home now - just to shut him up
https://giphy.com/l1IXVB31IXluTuYiQ
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,301
procdoc said:
You would rather us play a system where we conceded more goals than anyone else in the league
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And now we’ve subbed it out for a formation where we look incapable of scoring. Drawing every game 0-0 or 1-1 will send us down.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,302
Have to agree with feret about tonight’s formation and tactics against Norwich Dabo and Giles were superb on both wings got over 20 crosses in there was hardly any tonight. I actually think we start games better with our wing back system. But let’s take this point and move on there are no easy teams in this division, just look at tonight’s results to see anyone can beat anyone , we have gone from the leakiest defence in the league to the tightest I think we are slowly getting to grips with this division. We have what’s been said counting tonight 5 winnable games one down point gained 4 games to go.
 
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larry_david

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,303
theferret said:
I'm not sure I understand his thinking. We go away to the league leaders and we play a formation that is familar to us and which has reaped rewards over the last 18 months. We play well and cause them a lot of problems. We then play the team bottom of the table and switch to a formation that seems to be more about containing the opposition and which seems to make key players almost redundant. Surely we're not going to spend a season switching formation every few days.
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Can't keep fucking about. Consistency is key and whilst tactical changes are needed, we're not man city, I'd argue Shipley, Giles, o hare and to an extent Hamer didn't have a fooking clue what they were supposed to be doing and walker looked seriously hacked off
 
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cc84cov

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,304
AFCCOVENTRY said:
At least Robins has said Sam was shit tonight
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So what did he say about Shipley ?
 
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procdoc

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,305
Sky Blue Dal said:
I fear I am seeing this pattern manifesting but can’t help to show my loyalty towards Robins for getting us out of the mire we were in down in the lower league.

Just hope Robins has more faith in himself to get past this barrier. PUSB
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Anyone would think we had lost the last four on the bounce
 
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DannyThomas_1981

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,306
Evo1883 said:
You will see it again though I'm afraid, because we're getting points on the board... They can ofcourse try and tweak and work on things in training... Alot of today's problems were poor individual performances imo
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I hear you Evo. I do seriously think our wing backs are our strength both in terms of given serious problems running direct at the oppo...and as an out ball for our midfielders. I'm not a fan of playing a system that negates Dabo and Giles....and reduces options for our midfielders. Finally it's painful to see Walker/Godden/AB battle it out alone up front for little effect.
 

cc84cov

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,307
Magwitch said:
Have to agree with feret about tonight’s formation and tactics against Norwich Dabo and Giles were superb on both wings got over 20 crosses in there was hardly any tonight. I actually think we start games better with our wing back system. But let’s take this point and move on there are no easy teams in this division, just look at tonight’s results to see anyone can beat anyone , we have gone from the leakiest defence in the league to the tightest I think we are slowly getting to grips with this division. We have what’s been said counting tonight 5 winnable games one down point gained 4 games to go.
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We can have 400 crosses we won’t score if we are playing 1 up front
 

Barnsley

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,308
procdoc said:
Why are you here?
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To educate people.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,309
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You've also got quite a few more than just him agreeing with what I'm saying. Hamer rescuing this game after we go 2 up front doesn't mean we weren't very poor tonight
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up to 27 now
 
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BackRoomRummermill

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,310
clint van damme said:
But they're what we've got.
Why do people keep banging on about players not being good enough? They're what we have, it's not like we had the chance to recruit proven Championship pedigree. People need to accept it for what it is for their own sanity if nothing else!

And I disagree about O'Hare, not saying he will make the grade but too early to say he won't.
Shipley is really struggling.
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There is a whole level of through game fitness and tempo that has changed , off the ball running etc , but yes what you say is spot on
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,311
cc84cov said:
So what did he say about Shipley ?
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Nothing. He starts on Saturday
 

skyblueheaven

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,312
Wilson did well again..2 good saves.
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,313
cc84cov said:
What’s O’Hare done to convince you other wise ? He wasn’t even a starter in league 1 he’s over rated and bottles the big chances in a game
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I said he hasn't convinced me but he's shown glimpses.
And he was brilliant last year.
Both off 5he bench and as the season went on when he was starting
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,314
procdoc said:
You would rather us play a system where we conceded more goals than anyone else in the league
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I'd rather win one then lose one than draw every game.

Points win prizes.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,315
DannyThomas_1981 said:
I hear you Evo. I do seriously think our wing backs are our strength both in terms of given serious problems running direct at the oppo...and as an out ball for our midfielders. I'm not a fan of playing a system that negates Dabo and Giles....and reduces options for our midfielders. Finally it's painful to see Walker/Godden/AB battle it out alone up front for little effect.
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To be honest, it would have got to the point where we were losing 3-2 every week and eventually people would have demanded a formation change... It's not pretty, but tonight really wasn't as much about the formation more the individual performances and style of play... We could have scored 4 still.
 
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Hutch11

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,316
SeaSeeEffCee said:
And now we’ve subbed it out for a formation where we look incapable of scoring. Drawing every game 0-0 or 1-1 will send us down.
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Drawing 3 out of the last 4 has actually seen us climb the table
 
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procdoc

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,317
SeaSeeEffCee said:
And now we’ve subbed it out for a formation where we look incapable of scoring. Drawing every game 0-0 or 1-1 will send us down.
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We have to find a balance but you sometimes have to go back to basics and be difficult to break down first.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,318
theferret said:
We beat QPR playing wing backs. We beat Reading playing wing backs. We drew at Norwich playing wing backs. This system from last season that just doesn't work apparently.

Suggest playing a back four doesn't suit us and you get jumped on by the yeah but 0-0 against Blues crowd as though you are suggesting something utterly outrageous.
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What's bizarre is that the Norwich game is included in the 4 game unbeaten run but it doesn't count because Norwich had injuries/Max scored late. Yet we draw against Birmingham because Juke missed a hattrick of sitters and it's rock solid 4 at the back.

You can win games if you concede, you can't win if you don't score. Then you have the guy who wanted MR sacked and Kenny Jackett to swap places trying to look like he was a genius all along
 
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Evo1883

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,319
SeaSeeEffCee said:
And now we’ve subbed it out for a formation where we look incapable of scoring. Drawing every game 0-0 or 1-1 will send us down.
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6 points every 4 games will keep us up though
 
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Magwitch

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,320
Grendel said:
Better tell robins - call him a taxi
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Robins you’re a taxi nar nar na nar nar
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,321
I still cant understand why a fanbase where the general consensus was survival is the goal are getting so wound up when we're 19th in the league.

Fucking weird.
 
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DannyThomas_1981

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,322
Grendel said:
We should have won 4-2 - they should have scored 4 lol
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No point debating with you Scrooge if you can't respond to direct points and questions - and it's been clear to me for some time that you have no understanding of football making it even more pointless.

I'm delighted with the point but for most of us who understand the game it was a shocking performance and poor tactics.
 
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Briles

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,323
Probably our worst performance this season and we still created 4 great opportunities and scored. Undefeated in 4. Robins to learn a lesson from that and still gain a point. Rotherham had a tough one against brentford it seems, and a red card. Looking forward to Saturday
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,324
Grendel said:
up to 27 now
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Sat there counting likes and ignoring the quite obvious numbers of others agreeing with my POV. Sad little man
 
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Tartan Specials

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,325
larry_david said:
Can't keep fucking about. Consistency is key and whilst tactical changes are needed, we're not man city, I'd argue Shipley, Giles, o hare and to an extent Hamer didn't have a fooking clue what they were supposed to be doing and walker looked seriously hacked off
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O'Hare nearly scored (twice) and Hamer did. That'll do me every week.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,326
fernandopartridge said:
I'm struggling to recall the chances and any as gilt edged as the two we missed
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Kazim-Richards - missed a free header in the first half
That Lawrence should have scored in the first half when the ball was dummied and he hit it straight at Wilson
That guy hit the bar
They should have had a pen

we were poor and a good team would have really hammered us.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,327
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What's bizarre is that the Norwich game is included in the 4 game unbeaten run but it doesn't count because Norwich had injuries/Max scored late. Yet we draw against Birmingham because Juke missed a hattrick of sitters and it's rock solid 4 at the back.

You can win games if you concede, you can't win if you don't score. Then you have the guy who wanted MR sacked and Kenny Jackett to swap places trying to look like he was a genius all along
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Who said Norwich doesn't count?
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,328
clint van damme said:
I still cant understand why a fanbase where the general consensus was survival is the goal are getting so wound up when we're 19th in the league.

Fucking weird.
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People are getting wound up because they’ve just watched a shit performance.
 
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Monners

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,329
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I fully understand why we have to go 1 up front given the injury problems but we're going to find it so hard to win games just nicking the odd goal and asking miracles of the lone striker
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I do think we should play two up against Rotherham. A physical presence in Biamou would be an option - they are a big side. Horses for courses and all that.
 
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Dellboy87

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  • Dec 1, 2020
  • #1,330
It’s obvious who the midfield 4 should be, robins can be very blinkered. Wasn’t until the last few games of the league 2 season till he let Kelly cross the half way line. No one knew how good he was because he wasn’t allowed to play
 
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