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Dennis wise odds shortening (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter skybluesam66
  • Start date Sep 4, 2012
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skybluesam66

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #1
gone in from 8/1 - 9/2 overnight

wilder gone out from 1/3 - 4/9

Usually once a manger starts drifting, even if from an odds on position, they dont usually get the job

He's only 5ft 4 , He,ll break your F***ing jaw
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #2
Thing is with Wilder, the odds drifted because the Oxford chairman said there had been no approach. The CT however were saying that the club hadn't approached him yet but were going to do so.
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #3
At only 5' 6" he's pretty short already ain't he? If he gets any shorter we won't be able to see him!
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #4
As I keep saying in these threads, bookies markets for next managers have so little money traded (compared to normal football markets) that they are extremely volatile.

Ian Holloway was 1/5 on for the Villa job the day before Lambert was appointed.
 

@richh87

Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #5
This is the most important managerial appointment of the last 10 years IMO. We desperately need promotion or things will get a lot worse.
 

Evans020

New Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #6
@richh87 said:
This is the most important managerial appointment of the last 10 years IMO. We desperately need promotion or things will get a lot worse.
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I think in a sense your right but I think promotion could take 2-3 years
 
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Chipfat

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #7
I still dont think we are in the market for paying compo for a manager under contract when we have applicants that are available unattached. So Wise, Blackwell, Sheridan, Dyche and Shaw will make the short list and then its down to the contract and who stands out or who you think ticks the most box's.

I still like the idea of Wise or Dyche but Blackwell will put up a strong case with his background in football, not one for the fans but maybe atrractive to owners....
 
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aodea

New Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #8
Well i personally think that its still very hard to tell who will come in. Dont think it will be sorted till next week or week after to be honest. I liked wise but worried about him as a manager, Wilder has done a good job with Oxford so would lean towards him over wise but at this point want it sorted and hopefullythe players will be ready to kick on. 3 points from 4 in this Leauge aint good enough. Minimum requirment is to average 2 points a game and we are a long way off that.
 

Diehard Si

New Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #9
Well Wise was drifting before but is shortening again, so that logic doesn't seem to stick.
 
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skyblueobsession

New Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #10
Type 'Wilder Out' in Facebook, interesting.......!
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #11
skyblueobsession said:
Type 'Wilder Out' in Facebook, interesting.......!
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Wow i wonder what percentage of fans that 199 is....
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #12
I recall a fair few people calling for Eric Black's head way back when.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #13
Otis said:
I recall a fair few people calling for Eric Black's head way back when.
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Funny enough just about to make the same point. Had lots after every defeat calling for his head on the radio.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #14
Yep.

We could win 4-0, but the next game we didn't play well and lost there would be calls for his head.

Numpties us football supporters at times.
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #15
'Wilder give us a wave, Wilder Wilder give us..... where is he?' :claping hands:
 

skybluebeduff

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #16
And Eric Black was inconsistent so they say...
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #17
Type 'Wilder Out' in Facebook, interesting.......!
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Type "interesting" in facebook and I bet it comes back with "no results found".....
 

scroobiustom

New Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #18
Cocky Mafia out, wasn't that the chant a few years back - praise be to Dennis Wise

I reallllllllllllllllllly hope he is not the next Cov manager

(feel free to show me this in 3/4 years time and we can see where the club are at!)
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #19
The Cocky Mafia? You sure?
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #20
Out of the two, I hope it's Wilder.
 

@richh87

Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #21
I don't get the whole cockney mafia thing. Wise was only in the background - he wasn't the manager. Just because he was a cockney he got abused.

I'll take the Manager who got Millwall to the FA Cup final thanks.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #22
I think fans are thinking of his repuation rather than his management experience. He's been gardening for the last four years. Wilder for me, he's proved he can do it on a shoestring, his win ratio is decent and he's ready for a step up, I reckon.
 
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Glaziers green top

New Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #23
Wise has a point to prove and a great relationship with the fans which would be a great place to start. Wise all the way for me. Wilder is a beginner and I can't see him getting the respect of the players.
 

skyblueman

New Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #24
torchomatic said:
I think fans are thinking of his repuation rather than his management experience. He's been gardening for the last four years. Wilder for me, he's proved he can do it on a shoestring, his win ratio is decent and he's ready for a step up, I reckon.
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Do you think Wilder can get the current lacklustre bunch to actually play? This is actually the problem now - they just not up for it

Wilder given time and ability to bring in his own players - yes I agree is the better option

But for now - shouldn't it be Wise in to motivate/terrorise the current squad?
 

@richh87

Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #25
skyblueman said:
Do you think Wilder can get the current lacklustre bunch to actually play? This is actually the problem now - they just not up for it

Wilder given time and ability to bring in his own players - yes I agree is the better option

But for now - shouldn't it be Wise in to motivate/terrorise the current squad?
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Yeah that's my thinking too. At least Wise will command respect and excite the fans. Nobody knows who this Wilder bloke is.

What's more; I don't count his achievements in non-league etc as proof he can cut it.
 
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dick turpin

New Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #26
The New manager in waiting should be somewhere at the Game tonight!!!!
I should think.

Lets play who spots him first,a game for all the family
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #27
@richh87 said:
I don't get the whole cockney mafia thing. Wise was only in the background - he wasn't the manager. Just because he was a cockney he got abused.
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He and Jiminez came in and Keegan was immediately undermined.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #28
dick turpin said:
The New manager in waiting should be somewhere at the Game tonight!!!!
I should think.

Lets play who spots him first,a game for all the family
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If he's in a box ..... or at least standing on a box, it'll be Dennis Wise.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #29
Glaziers green top said:
Wise has a point to prove and a great relationship with the fans which would be a great place to start. Wise all the way for me. Wilder is a beginner and I can't see him getting the respect of the players.
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Wilder is a beginner?!!

He has over 500 games as a manager.

Wise has about 200.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #30
As I've said on other threads, I would be happy with either but given the choice then I would go for Wilder. It's silly to say that no one knows who Wilder is. And even if it was true, what difference would that make? There's plenty of managers that have made it, they all started somewhere, believe it or not.

You don't count his recent achievements as anything to get excited about. Remind me of Wise's recent achievements? Saying that, I'm sure he has a nice green, lush lawn and his Clematis are superb apparently.

@richh87 said:
Yeah that's my thinking too. At least Wise will command respect and excite the fans. Nobody knows who this Wilder bloke is.

What's more; I don't count his achievements in non-league etc as proof he can cut it.
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #31
@richh87 said:
Yeah that's my thinking too. At least Wise will command respect and excite the fans. Nobody knows who this Wilder bloke is.

What's more; I don't count his achievements in non-league etc as proof he can cut it.
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I know who Wilder is. Speak for your lack of footballing knowledge not everyone's.

And I think his achievements in non league are the most relevant. The BSP is probably the most difficult league in the country to win promotion. Just look at Luton.
 

Baginton

New Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #32
Oxford fans are mad wanting him out, got them out of the Blue Square ( which as pointed out is a job in itself) currently third in League Two, he's assembled a reasonable squad, plays attacking football, what exactly is there to dislike?
 

Diehard Si

New Member
  • Sep 4, 2012
  • #33
Hmm are we going to go for the Wise choice, or take the Wilder option?
 
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